will i have to become a gunner ... ?

[uclacrewdude]

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Will I have to become a gunner to score a surgery residency?

 

[idq1i]

It all depends on your ability to memorize and retain large volumes of material

 

[doc05]

probably not. right now surgery is not so popular or difficult to enter as it used to be. top students are increasingly choosing more lifestyle-friendly fields.

nonetheless scoring a spot at a top program is competitive for any field.

please don't get too hooked up on all this residency nonsense before you've even entered MS-I year. Many many students change their minds several times before choosing a specialty.

Just remember to study a lot, but be sure to have fun too.

 

[drkingdingaling]

Dont you want to be a gunner? Ive never heard of anything so silly. You should give your very best at everything you do especially if its something as important as this.This whole gunner thing is something that slackers made up.

 

[Street Philosopher]

become a gunner? chances are that you already are one. lol

 

[dacaveman]

gunners make up the majority of the class. ummm well that depends on what school you go to.

and no i dont think you can become a gunner by choice. lucky for those born with obsessive compulsive personality disorder

 

[uclacrewdude]

Originally posted by drkingdingaling
Dont you want to be a gunner? Ive never heard of anything so silly. You should give your very best at everything you do especially if its something as important as this.This whole gunner thing is something that slackers made up.

Obviously I wanna be my best, but I don't want to become less of a person in order to do so. Just like for admission, grades and scores can't be the only things residency programs look at, can they?

And despite what street philosopher might think, I'm no gunner; I'm a jock who got in with a 2.96 cum GPA on the AMCAS. That I got in and am going to succeed throws it right back in every gunner's face! You like apples? How do you like THEM apples???

 

[Street Philosopher]

your low gpa doesn't fool anyone. you gotta have something else on the table to get with that score. gunner. 🙂

 

[raining4days]

Just because one knows the material very well and/or gets into AOA does not mean that person is a gunner. Most medical students came from the top of their class, so the students are already studious and detail-oriented. A gunner is one who crosses other people's paths and impedes them from rising upwards.

 

[Street Philosopher]

Originally posted by raining4days
Just because one knows the material very well and/or gets into AOA does not mean that person is a gunner. Most medical students came from the top of their class, so the students are already studious and detail-oriented. A gunner is one who crosses other people's paths and impedes them from rising upwards.

only a gunner would split hairs in a vain attempt to dissociate himself from the common use of the term. 🙂

 

[8744]

Originally posted by raining4days
Just because one knows the material very well and/or gets into AOA does not mean that person is a gunner. Most medical students came from the top of their class, so the students are already studious and detail-oriented. A gunner is one who crosses other people's paths and impedes them from rising upwards.

Har Har. That sounds very gunnerish. Look, a gunner is someone who agonizies over a challenge to an exam question on a two-hundred question exam who's resolution won't alter their score by so much as a percentage point. They bug the challenge comittee, bug the professor, and generally do not know when to let it slide.

I'm talking about people who are down in the dumps because they made a 92 on an exam and are suicidal if they screw up an get an 89.

Come to think of it, the entire challenge comittee is generally made up of gunners.

You don't have to screw over other people to be a gunner, but if you do you are a "malignant" gunner.

 

[Renovar]

Originally posted by Panda Bear
Har Har. That sounds very gunnerish. Look, a gunner is someone who agonizies over a challenge to an exam question on a two-hundred question exam who's resolution won't alter their score by so much as a percentage point. They bug the challenge comittee, bug the professor, and generally do not know when to let it slide.

I'm talking about people who are down in the dumps because they made a 92 on an exam and are suicidal if they screw up an get an 89.

Come to think of it, the entire challenge comittee is generally made up of gunners.

You don't have to screw over other people to be a gunner, but if you do you are a "malignant" gunner.

In my med school career, I have encountered three types of gunners. Type 1 gunner-ism is the anal-retentive type. These people study hard, and they wont mind showing their nerdiness. Those are the ones who argues for a moot 1/2 point on an exam with the prof for 1/2 an hour. These also made up of "stat freaks" who wants to know what everyone else got on an exam and is obsessed in "beating the mean" or "beating the standard dev" types, and will go around looking up Z tables and compute area under the curve to figure out the exact percentile of their performance on an exam. Generally these people are a bit annoying but nothing more.

Type 2 gunner-ism, or the "closet-gunner" type, is the one who always says how much they party and how little do they study, but always beat the mean by a country mile every time and smurikly attribute it to "luck". These are the people you will grow to hate and sometimes want to slam a pie in their face when they are claiming how "lucky" they are in scoring that 99.

Type 3 gunnerism, aka "dinguses" are those who will try to look good in front of the attendings or professors at expense of others. They will infringe on you and try to step over you to make themselves look good. Always shameless, they will suck up, kiss ass, and do anything possible to impress. These people will show their face mostly in 3rd year med school. Defend against it by holding your own during rounds, and retaliate at will when you have a chance. As you can tell I hate these people with a passion.

 

[carrigallen]

Originally posted by uclacrewdude
Will I have to become a gunner to score a surgery residency?

lmao. to score a residency? sounds like you may be a gunner already.

btw, you won't find many of your gun-brethren going for general surgery...apparently it's not fashionable in gunner circles nowadays.

If you're looking for kindred fellows, try integrated plastics or ortho.

 

[....]

A slacker in HS
A succusful bare minimun in college
Excited to become a gunner in Med school.
Integratred plastics here I come!

Shes right. Gen surgery isnt where the gunners go.

Integrated plastics. ortho, derm are where its at 🙂

 

[JM.]

I am a tail-gunner.

 

[raspberry swirl]

being a gunner has nothing to do with the amount of studying one does. its an attitude that requires being a competetive a-hole and wishing less success for your classmates . . .

 

[uclacrewdude]

I swear to God I'm not as dumb as my GPA indicates!🙂

 

[....]

"being a gunner has nothing to do with the amount of studying one does. its an attitude that requires being a competetive a-hole and wishing less success for your classmates . . ."

Yep

 

[raining4days]

Originally posted by raspberry swirl
being a gunner has nothing to do with the amount of studying one does. its an attitude that requires being a competetive a-hole and wishing less success for your classmates . . .

 

[JM.]

No one laughed at my joke. Sniff. Sniff.