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Will transferring a 3rd time hurt my admission chances?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by derekkshepherd2.0, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. derekkshepherd2.0

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    I currently attend University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign and will be a sophomore. I spent my freshman year at the University of Miami, a school that's similar in caliber, but ended up transferring to UIUC as I was miserable at Miami and live about 100 miles from UIUC. My grades were good, I'll be starting at UIUC with a 3.84 GPA but my goal has been to go to UC Berkeley. I didn't have the chance to apply to UCB after Miami as the deadline had passed and I didn't get in as a freshman. I think with my college grades and EC'S I have a decent chance. However, everyone I've told has advised against it as they say it'll be a a red flag with med school admissions. I have no issues with transferring again and think a UCB education is as good as it gets. Is it worth it?
     
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    Why do you feel it is so important for you to transfer to Berkeley after all this time? Keep in mind that you will likely extend your time in undergrad as some of your credits may not transfer.
     
  4. derekkshepherd2.0

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    Should have noted, all my credits did transfer, and I will be on track with all classes and major reqs.
     
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    It's not really a red flag. You will likely need a good reason though, and will be asked about it during interviews. If you have good grades now and go to berkeley and get bad grades, that will look bad. Berkeley is known to be tough on pre-meds. Furthermore, you will need to get settled again finding activities, friends, etc. Whatever you do, just make sure to maintain your grades.

    Berkeley is a world class institution though, so I can understand wanting to go there. But Illinois is no slouch.
     
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    So all this moving will not make it easy to make connections with professors, do substantial research or even make friends. It is a great school (and many of my childhood friends go there), but it is a tough environment. Many have trouble fitting in all their classes in 4 years, you need to be very independent because advising is not their strong suit. Just because your credits transferred once, it doesn't mean that they will again.
    You are at a top state school that is much more affordable re: cost of living. Why would you want to pay OOS tuition at Berkeley without a real advantage?
    You will also be compared with other Berkeley premeds, and they are some of the best.
     
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    I would have some concerns about so many transfers...

    And has already been noted, Berkeley is a known grade deflator and has some of the toughest competition out there. Unless your grades stay absolutely top-notch, you'll be lowering your chances, not improving them.

    How about a summer class there?
     
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    If you transfer again, are you planning to wait until after senior year to apply so you'll have some decent longevity for some of your activities?
     
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    You don't want to come off as indecisive/impulsive/prestige chaser.

    Also Berkeley is super hard so if you're cruising along at UIUC I'd totally stay put.
     
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    I agree with the point @Flashfan made about whether the credits will transfer or not. You wouldn't want to spend longer than 4yrs during your undergrad. That is one of many factors that you should consider before going through with this, along with costs and the different environments of both schools. UIUC is a great university, and I have spoken to a radiologist who went there and can say himself that their ug experience was well worth it. Now ultimately it's your decision whether you transfer or not, but I just want to ask what is it at Berkley that's not available at UC? Or is it about the prestige of having a degree at Berkley?
     
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    You should be aware it is very difficult (bordering on almost impossible) to transfer into UCB (and also UCLA) from any 4 year uni. (especially from out of state). The UC's all give transfer priority to CA CC students.
     
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    Interesting, I didn't think the credit equivalency was such a big factor. I think I should be fine being that most of my classes are general science/math or gen eds. UIUC is a great university and I have no problems with it. The reason I want to go to UCB is primarily being that my dad went there and it's been a goal of mine since high school. Unfortunately legacy means nothing with the UC's but going to UCB isn't something I want to give up on just yet.
     
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    If you made a 3.84 in freshman classes at Miami, Berkeley may not be the best move
     
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    Also Berkeley sucks :whistle:
     
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    If you establish residency in Cali, it'll hurt your chances of getting into ANY medical school.

    : P
     
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    Seems like a lot of time and money for little or no gain.
     
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    They refused you once? What makes you think transferring in is any easier?
     
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    I transferred from a private (CA) 4 year into a UC. Got into 4/6 of the UCs I applied to (with a ~3.4 gpa to boot!).
    I think you might as well try. If you don't get in, oh well. Definitely use this time to evaluate what you want in a college and then decide if transferring is truly the best option for you.
     
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    The thing you first need to ask yourself is why did you transfer from Miami this year? I think that's the thing that people are missing here. Why are you going to a school you are only interested in attending for one year?

    The part I bolded says alot in terms of answering whether or not it's worth it. There doesn't sound like a rhyme or reason for transferring again other than "I like Berekley's education that they offer". Thousands and thousands of people get rejected from their dream school for college. The vast majority move past it and make due with what they have. Those who don't leave for reasons such as "they don't have the major I want" or "I was a horrible fit in the school's culture and environment(ie a very religious person going to a huge party school). None of this seems to apply to you. Many come to realize those dream schools they didn't get into weren't really what was best for them. What makes you think Berekley is best for you?

    I'll also say see what transferring is like this fall in a new environment before committing to the idea of wanting to do a transfer again a year from now. It is hard. People make a large number of their friends and social groups freshmen year. Things change after that and it gets harder to meet people. Adjusting to a new environment when you aren't a freshmen anymore is tough. There is nothing to ease your transition like there is when you were a freshmen such as freshmen housing or anything like that with people who are in the same boat as you.

    On top of that consider what everyone has said.
    a) adjusting to a new school is hard. There's a reason so many transfers drop pre-med. Keeping up your grades in new situations isn't easy. And here comes this this is a general rule: the later you are in college the more costly alot of common mistakes people make are. Not adjusting to college and having a poor first semester of college is one thing. Not adjusting well to Berekley and not having a good junior year when you are supposed to be hitting your peak and when ADCOMs are really interested in evaluating the kind of student you are is bad. Very bad.
    b) Doing research, participating in meaningful activties and establishing meaningful professor relationships becomes a lot harder when your jumping all over the place every year. It takes people sometimes months to find a good research position or place they can volunteer at or club they like. LEave again a few months after that and you've basically gotten nothing out of those things.
    c) Berekley is HARD. It is not very endearing to pre-meds. Medicore advising, intense classes, intense environment; it is very hard to pull off the grades needed for med school there. B grades are difficult to get and entail beating the majority of undergrads there who are some of the most intense and brightest in the country. B's aren't what you want for med school admission. To get an A there really requires dominance in a subject and class over a vast majority of very very hardworking students. Is there anything more than just speculation that makes you think Berekley is what's best for you? Because even if it is the best educational place for you, I would still strongly advise really reconsidering a course of action that involves you going to such a daunting place.
    d) Voluntarily establishing CA residency is not a particularly wise decision if you end up doing that. gonnif talks alot about how every year there are CA premeds with 3.65/31's who after two cycles still can't find anyone to bite on them.

    Above all else, the question alone shows your mind might not be where it needs to be. Success wherever it comes is what matters. Living these fantasies of going to Berekley because you like it and ditching 2 schools is not what matters. Focus on life and its challenges right now and you'll probably find once you do these grandiose plans more than year away aren't really worth any consideration.
     

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