Okay making a longish post here. Have been waiting for officially 20 people to post before I posted this as I decided to do a little meta hunting on Barkley, as a few things have been sketch thus far (But she hasn't even posted you say, just wait). To mods, I apologize for using angling and metas and likes in my analysis here, I understand that it's not available in MU, but I am not going to ignore stuff that I have noticed and just blame it on feels, when I can develop a coherent argument instead.
Okay, last game, Barkley had commented about my first to post, first to vote strategy indicating wolfiness in a joking matter (within the first few posts of the game), while I was a mod and they were a villager. They also had acknowledged it in the game before. Barkley was here 9:00 on the dot, as he immediately liked AM's post upon posting, and Pippy's post upon posting, so felt as if they were avoiding posting at that point. As an aside, Barkley has never liked first or second posts in any previous WW game (hence my thoughts of that theory being in their mind)
Additionally, they have ALWAYS, every game, full stop, posted within the first 20 posts in the game (all but one within 15, most within 10). So you may claim that he was just here at 9 am, and has since left. Nope, (and I apologize for my angling here) he has posted in the dead chat from last game responding to messages, has liked posts in the lounge, and liked posts in the previous game thread. So it appears she is avoiding the thread, which is outside of her early game meta (I am realizing I am likely using he/his a lot and I apologize, I know you are a woman).
Now, this isn't a damning, end discussion argument, but I think it's a fairly compelling one for 0 lynch votes posted and a bit over 20 posts into the game.
A few things from a mechanistic standpoint that I really want to emphasize in a game like this:
1. We should follow what AM has said regarding role reveals on day 5. This is where the logic puzzle part of the WW game comes in. You figure out the claimed actions of each person and start to form an appropriate network of information.
2. Because you are at maximum only getting 2 actions for a specific type of ability (I know the JOAT gets 3 but they are all separate abilities), if you find a wolf from your actions you say it on the thread, that day. Full Stop. Don't rely on the fact that you placed pressure with your votes and questioning, because WE WON'T KNOW YOUR ROLE ON DEATH. (ie. You see someone kill (especially on NIGHTS 1 OR 4), you see someone interact with the person who is dead, you see someone take two actions in 1 night, etc.)
3. Unless someone says that someone is a FOR SURE wolf (ie, saw two actions taken in 1 night or affiliations seered them as wolf) in a non-Lylo situation, there is NO reason for us to employ majority rules. Discussion only helps village. Lack of discussion helps wolves. Ending days early when we don't for sure know someone is a wolf is poor village strategy.
4. On day 5, proper etiquette is for the even/odd role cops to reveal their info LAST. The reason for this is that it makes the wolves be forced to reveal their true role with their "target list" (unless we were unlucky and they got both of those roles).
5. In any lylo situation, you DO NOT vote early. I don't care how convinced you are. You let the discussion play out for the day. As I have seen locked early votes really mess up village in this type of situation.
6. Any person's role ability claim is NOT a reason to NOT lynch them in this type of game. Affiliations were given out randomly. Affiliation seer could just as easily be a wolf as a villager (and is even more dangerous in wolf hands, since that is affiliated with the ninja modification).
7. This game has 3 different mechanisms for nights 1-3 where death can be avoided. Just because you blocked or jailed someone does not make that person a wolf. People will debate the merits of outing yourself, especially on a day 2 type of situation if no kill happens on night 1 (also keep in mind that wolves are not required to kill as well, which can lead to interesting strategies from the wolves with that)
8. If you are a villager, and are about to be lynched, it is beneficial to release your night results before you go down, to help in the logic puzzle we have going on later. This way we are only missing 0-6 pieces of information later on (max with night kills if vigilantes kill 2 villagers)
Lynch Barkley
