You gotta see this!

[erg923]

http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/introduction

There are so many questions/problems here, I don't know where to start.

1. Deceptive advertising. here: http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/overview

2. Where, exactly, is the clinical training?!

3. How would you even begin to compete for predoc internship from this 3 years program with one(?) practicum?

4. How on earth is this Ph.D.?! It doesn't even look like it would reach the threshold for Psy.D.

6. Deceptive via failure to fully disclose/inform here: http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/accreditation

7. Last but not least: Oxford?! WTF?!

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[Doctor Eliza]

They only have 2 faculty and 2 adjuncts.

I wouldn't be surprised if this program is housed in someone's garage or basement.

"Schools" like this are one reason that physicians don't trust psychologists to have rx privileges. They are trying to market their shoddy training as a way to prepare for psychopharm training. It makes our profession look bad.

Um...they are also in KY...where there are no rx privileges...odd.

Dr. E

 

[erg923]

http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/overview

And a grounding in the biological sciences that sets it apart from other programs...with one required/core course in neuropsychology?! Dumb program!

PS: 3 of the 4 faculty have Ph,Ds from the California Institute for Human Science. Never even heard of it. Sigh...

 

[AcronymAllergy]

http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/overview

And a grounding in the biological sciences that sets it apart from other programs...with one required/core course in neuropsychology?! Dumb program!

PS: 3 of the 4 faculty went to California Institute for Human Science. Never even heard of it. Sigh...

Yeah, heaven forbid a program with an emphasis in the biological sciences actually have a biological basis of behavior class in addition to a class or two in neuropsych, much like many existing programs without such an explicitly-stated emphasis. Although I guess we shouldn't forget about all their psychopharm classes with sexy names...

Sigh indeed. I don't see how this is much more than a marketing ploy and potential money grab, but maybe I'm just jaded.

 

[erg923]

I am really tempted to email the director of this program and see whats up here? Seems like we are bordering on unethical stuff here...at least is deceptive advertising as it currently presented.

 

[thewesternsky]

Two faculty, and one of the faculty is a Licensed Practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. This website is possibly the most depressing thing I've seen all week.

 

[erg923]

Two faculty, and one of the faculty is a Licensed Practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. This website is possibly the most depressing thing I've seen all week.

Yes, they sure sound like dedicated faculty whose focus is on scientific/student training.

"Acordingly, a portion of each academic year, Dr. Aganov is in residence at St Stephen's House, Oxford, Permanent Private Hall of the University of Oxford.

Having worked for a number of years as a healthcare executive in Los Angeles, California, Dr. Aganov now serves as a CEO of a healthcare facility in Kiev, Ukraine. He also maintains a small private practice as a personal and executive coach. Dr. Aganov's Personal Coaching clients include business owners, executives, professional athletes, writers, and people from all walks of life. Finally, Dr. Aganov is the founder and CEO of PsychDirectory – a web-based directory of various psychrelated services.

He also founded Business Optimization Solutions and Worldbridge Education – the former, a company whose focus is to assist businesses in creating work environments conducive to personal and professional growth and development; the latter, an educational company dedicated to expanding the concept of learning and making quality education accessible to people around the globe.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

And yet....graduates still might be able to be considered "colleagues" if they can prove equivalency and convince a state to grant them a license.

 

[phillydave]

I'm not sure which is worse, the DBH program or this... :[

 

[mcvcm92]

http://gradweb.ucumberlands.edu/psychology/phd/overview

And a grounding in the biological sciences that sets it apart from other programs...with one required/core course in neuropsychology?! Dumb program!

PS: 3 of the 4 faculty have Ph,Ds from the California Institute for Human Science. Never even heard of it. Sigh...

In case anyone was curious, here's the link to the California Institute for Human Sciences. https://www.cihs.edu/

They have Ph.D degrees in "integral health" and "life physics" (in addition to others)

 

[erg923]

They have Ph.D degrees in "integral health" and "life physics" (in addition to others)

Integral health=apple a day keeps doctor away.

Life physics=don't fall down and bump your head too often.

Boom. Double Ph.Ds for me!

 

[phillydave]

In case anyone was curious, here's the link to the California Institute for Human Sciences. https://www.cihs.edu/

They have Ph.D degrees in "integral health" and "life physics" (in addition to others)

PSY 725 Mind Body Energy Psychology (4 units)
PSY 742 Advanced Consciousness Studies (4 units)
PSY 749 Clinical Applications of Energy Psychology (4 units)
PSY 756 Hypnotherapy and Guided Imagery (4 units)
PSY 763 Psychology of Shamanism (4 units)
PSY 786 Introduction to Four Expressive Arts Modalities (4 units)

 

[zupa]

Wooooooow. Speaking of unethical:

"The University may discriminate on the basis of religion in any position of employment in order to fulfill its purpose."

And yet they're going to somehow train clinicians to be tolerant and unbiased!? Super shady.

 

[Buzzwordsoldier]

I'm not sure which is worse, the DBH program or this... :[

I wonder if others started writing very definite opinions on this question, only to find that there is no real right answer...

 

[erg923]

I wonder if others started writing very definite opinions on this question, only to find that there is no real right answer...

The "right" answer is to do good for the profession and not violate ethics. Not sure how that is even up for debate when looking at programs such as these.

 

[Rivi]

Dude.... I am not even mad about the curriculum. I am mad about the fact that schools like this knowing charge students 50+k in tuition for a degree that doesn't allow them to do anything relevant to anything whatsoever.

Actually, on second thought, I am mad about the curriculum too.

Don't forget about the Eisner Institutes online degree in Parapsychology. I remember seeing an ad for this school in the APA monitor:

http://www.eisnerinstitute.org

 

[VeryHopeful2010]

These programs are ridiculous, but I also am a believer in Natural Selection - if you enter this program so uninformed, well... These programs do mislead the public, though, I agree wholeheartedly.

Let me add fuel to the fire and say what REALLY irks me lately are these so-called health and life coaches. They seem to spew bullS#@*t and think that an online course or weekend certificate makes them qualified to help. They seem to be the most unethical group I've come across lately.

 

[psyunknown]

"The doctoral programs are not designated to lead to licensure"

This is stated on the Eisner Institutes website, which makes me wonder who would ever sign up for their program! This seems like a waste of money to me. "Look I have a PsyD, but I cannot do anything with it."

 

[Pragma]

Haha...

Study Abroad in Oxford
University of the Cumberlands has made arrangements to hold seminar classes in Oxford.

Students are not required to attend the study abroad program in Oxford. All courses offered in Oxford are also offered at the University of the Cumberlands campus in Northern Kentucky.

Prospective students are encouraged to direct enquiries to Cassie Cockrum.

I wonder if they hang out in the prof's basement...

 

[cara susanna]

So you go to another country just to take seminar classes or what?

 

[thewesternsky]

So you go to another country just to take seminar classes or what?

Yes. That is exactly what you do. They are probably hoping it will attract students. (You can live in England! Oxford is a good school!). But of course the "Oxford is a good school" thing is irrelevant. My favourite part of the FAQ is here:

As a student enrolled in Study Abroad in Oxford, am I considered a University of Oxford student?

No, as a student in Study Abroad in Oxford, you are a University of the Cumberlands student. In Oxford, you have no standing, per se, at the University of Oxford. You are considered a visitor. It is important to represent yourself honestly and clearly in this respect.

...So basically, you don't actually have any standing at Oxford and you can only say you went there in the sense that you've, like, been to the campus. Actually, I can claim that too because I have a friend who works in IT there and I had lunch with him one day. It was very pretty, and I did read a book on a bench after lunch for a few minutes. So I guess I too can claim to have studied at Oxford?