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Just want to post my job hunting experiences for you all. Take into account this may not be everyone's experience.
Some facts about myself that may or may not explain some of my success.
Advantages:
-I am a white male US grad (There is still prejudice out there, no matter what job you are looking. It is unfortunate, but not something anyone should ignore.)
-I am graduating from a pretty well respected program.
-My CV looks pretty nice with research, military experience (war vet), supervisor experience and I was Chief.
-I am relatively outgoing and very friendly.
-I like heme and am pretty good at it.
Disadvantages:
-I am older than the average grad (this may be an advantage for some places, but may not for some)
-I am a big fella (big boned like Eric Cartman, hehe)
-Long time married with no kids. Some folks find this weird.
-I am not doing a fellowship.
Search:
I started looking for a job in September. I fixed up my CV and started sending it out to any job that I found interesting. I found job listings on www.pathologyoutlines.com, www.cap.org, and ones that were sent to me via my program director. I also put my name out to headhunters that I met at the last CAP meeting in Chicago. Overall, I probably emailed out 20 to 25 CVs.
I am not tied down to one place so I sent CVs out to jobs all over the country. There were also local/regional jobs I had heard about that I didn't even send CVs, that probably would have easily resulted in more interviews, but I didn't really want to stay where I currently live.
I only sent CVs to partnership tract groups. I am not interested in being a hospital employee or working for a national lab. I was very picky with the places I sent CVs.
Search results:
I was offered 5 interviews, 2 of which I turned down due to the quality of the other 3 I had been offered.
Interviews:
I went to interviews in Texas, Ohio and Indiana. The groups pick up the tab for the flights and hotel. It is a typical job interview. Plus, they try to sell you on them as well. In one of the interviews I was placed in the driver seat of a multi-headed scope, given a pile of cases and asked to go through them. This was unexpected, but I just sucked it up and did the best I could. All the places I interviewed were also interviewing others. I was also honest with them when asked if I was interviewing other places.
Talking money:
All the groups talked money without me asking. Which I would not have done on an initial interview. Money ranged from 160s to over 200, some with no benefits included, others with everything included (malpractice, health insurance, retirement, continuing education fund). Vacation ranging from 4 weeks to 10 weeks. Partnership ranging from 2 years to 3 years.
Actual job offers:
After I had finished the interviews I knew for sure which place I wanted to go. And, as it happened they offered me the job before the other two places. So I informed the other two groups I was no longer interested in their positions, so I do not know whether or not I would have received contracts from them. Probably would have had at least one more, but can't say for sure.
So just a few days ago I signed my job contract and will be going to Indiana in July. I am thrilled, it is an awesome job with a great group of people.
I hope this helps you guys/gals when you start.
A couple of tips:
-One mistake I made was that I should have sent out a paper copy as well to places I was really interested in and follow up with a phone call.
-I did not cold call anywhere, but would have had I needed too.
-Don't under estimate your worth.
Some facts about myself that may or may not explain some of my success.
Advantages:
-I am a white male US grad (There is still prejudice out there, no matter what job you are looking. It is unfortunate, but not something anyone should ignore.)
-I am graduating from a pretty well respected program.
-My CV looks pretty nice with research, military experience (war vet), supervisor experience and I was Chief.
-I am relatively outgoing and very friendly.
-I like heme and am pretty good at it.
Disadvantages:
-I am older than the average grad (this may be an advantage for some places, but may not for some)
-I am a big fella (big boned like Eric Cartman, hehe)
-Long time married with no kids. Some folks find this weird.
-I am not doing a fellowship.
Search:
I started looking for a job in September. I fixed up my CV and started sending it out to any job that I found interesting. I found job listings on www.pathologyoutlines.com, www.cap.org, and ones that were sent to me via my program director. I also put my name out to headhunters that I met at the last CAP meeting in Chicago. Overall, I probably emailed out 20 to 25 CVs.
I am not tied down to one place so I sent CVs out to jobs all over the country. There were also local/regional jobs I had heard about that I didn't even send CVs, that probably would have easily resulted in more interviews, but I didn't really want to stay where I currently live.
I only sent CVs to partnership tract groups. I am not interested in being a hospital employee or working for a national lab. I was very picky with the places I sent CVs.
Search results:
I was offered 5 interviews, 2 of which I turned down due to the quality of the other 3 I had been offered.
Interviews:
I went to interviews in Texas, Ohio and Indiana. The groups pick up the tab for the flights and hotel. It is a typical job interview. Plus, they try to sell you on them as well. In one of the interviews I was placed in the driver seat of a multi-headed scope, given a pile of cases and asked to go through them. This was unexpected, but I just sucked it up and did the best I could. All the places I interviewed were also interviewing others. I was also honest with them when asked if I was interviewing other places.
Talking money:
All the groups talked money without me asking. Which I would not have done on an initial interview. Money ranged from 160s to over 200, some with no benefits included, others with everything included (malpractice, health insurance, retirement, continuing education fund). Vacation ranging from 4 weeks to 10 weeks. Partnership ranging from 2 years to 3 years.
Actual job offers:
After I had finished the interviews I knew for sure which place I wanted to go. And, as it happened they offered me the job before the other two places. So I informed the other two groups I was no longer interested in their positions, so I do not know whether or not I would have received contracts from them. Probably would have had at least one more, but can't say for sure.
So just a few days ago I signed my job contract and will be going to Indiana in July. I am thrilled, it is an awesome job with a great group of people.
I hope this helps you guys/gals when you start.
A couple of tips:
-One mistake I made was that I should have sent out a paper copy as well to places I was really interested in and follow up with a phone call.
-I did not cold call anywhere, but would have had I needed too.
-Don't under estimate your worth.