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Where are the videos on this site? It says how it has all this stuff, but where is it?
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Not sure if this is an open, free service - you can try contacting them through their link though.
 
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YouTube has a surprising number of videos. The problem with most of them is that they are produced by industry to market some device or procedure so you don't see bread and butter stuff.
 
www.or-live.com is very good! I highly recomend it.

Also, does anyone know of any good podcasts for surgical videos. Actually, if you have any medical podcast recommendations in general, I would appreciate it a lot.
 
Carissa said:
www.or-live.com is very good! I highly recomend it.

Also, does anyone know of any good podcasts for surgical videos. Actually, if you have any medical podcast recommendations in general, I would appreciate it a lot.
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What is up with all you high school kids looking for videos of people getting cut?
 
SocialistMD said:
What is up with all you high school kids looking for videos of people getting cut?
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The quality of high school age entertainment on television has declined since you and I were high schoolers. Seriously. What are the options for these kids today? Hannah Montana? F**k that.

Then again, today's kids are not as squeamish as we were either and they're much less prudish. Remember the episode when Doogie Howser was gonna sleep with that fugly chick, Wanda? That made the cover of TV Guide, I think, when I was a kid.

Now shows like One Tree Hill and Dawson's Creek are talking about anal sex and teeny bopper icons are flashing their crotches in public and seeing their celebrity skyrocket!

It's a strange world we live in.

So I welcome their interest in what we do with our lives. Better that than yet another subscriber to some internet porn site.
 
Carissa said:
www.or-live.com is very good! I highly recomend it.

Also, does anyone know of any good podcasts for surgical videos. Actually, if you have any medical podcast recommendations in general, I would appreciate it a lot.
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Don't you people get the Discovery Health channel? :confused:

Castro Viejo said:
Then again, today's kids are not as squeamish as we were either and they're much less prudish. Remember the episode when Doogie Howser was gonna sleep with that fugly chick, Wanda? That made the cover of TV Guide, I think, when I was a kid.
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Somehow, I have difficulty imagining that you were either squeamish or prudish. Even when you were a teenager. Were you? Just curious.
 
smq123 said:
Somehow, I have difficulty imagining that you were either squeamish or prudish. Even when you were a teenager. Were you? Just curious.
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Before college, yes. Things like that seemed a big deal.

Now? Well... Thank God for college. :)
 
Blade28 said:
That's because you like the hero worship. :)
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Yes, I believe you're right. Uh... Wait a minute... Are you talking about being a surgeon or my internet porn website? :)
 
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smq123 said:
**Gasp**

YOU are the "Striptease Surgeon"??!! I've seen your site! Is that how you're paying off loans?
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Loans? Please... That's why I went to State for med school.

The website just helps pay for my pimp lifestyle.
 
Umm... none of these replies answer my question. Everyone knows about OR-live, but what about this Virtual-OR site? Where are the videos?
 
Cheisu said:
Umm... none of these replies answer my question. Everyone knows about OR-live, but what about this Virtual-OR site? Where are the videos?
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I would take that to mean no one knows. I think Blade gave you a very good answer.
 
smq123 said:
Don't you people get the Discovery Health channel? :confused:
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I beleive I do, but I don't watch TV much. I like listening to/watching podcasts because I can do it in the car. So if anyone has any recommendations, I'd appreciate it!
 
Castro Viejo said:
The quality of high school age entertainment on television has declined since you and I were high schoolers. Seriously. What are the options for these kids today? Hannah Montana? F**k that.
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True, but when I was in high school, there was no such thing as Discovery Health, and TLC never showed anything interesting. Why can't high schoolers watch those channels? Or do as we used to do in the old days - go into the library and look things up for ourselves! Instead of, you know, asking people on internet forums to look things up for them. :rolleyes:

Carissa said:
I beleive I do, but I don't watch TV much. I like listening to/watching podcasts because I can do it in the car. So if anyone has any recommendations, I'd appreciate it!
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I would recommend watching Discovery Health. They have some pretty amazing medical shows, and a lot of the surgical ones are very good.

I'm just curious - what kind of medical podcasts are you looking for? Do you mean like the stuff that Dr. Sanjay Gupta does for a general audience?
 
smq123 said:
Not a fan, I take it?

(I'm not either - I'm pretty much indifferent - he's just the most well known example of a physician who might have a podcast designed for a lay audience.)
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Well don't forget he's also an attending here, so I've seen him up close.
 
smq123 said:
I would recommend watching Discovery Health. They have some pretty amazing medical shows, and a lot of the surgical ones are very good.

I'm just curious - what kind of medical podcasts are you looking for? Do you mean like the stuff that Dr. Sanjay Gupta does for a general audience?
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Well, I'll check it out, but I don't really have time for TV. However, I'm in the car a lot (my family has a ski house about 4 hours away), so podcasts are more convenient.

Right now, a few podcasts I'm into are BU General Internal Medicine Rounds, Emergency Medicine Lecture Series, EMS Lecture Series, Medically Speaking Podcast, and Dr. Gerald Cizadlo's A&P lectures. I know that's a fair amount of podcasts, but I'd like a few good video ones, because these are all only audio, which becomes very boring after a while. Thanks so much!
 
Whoa, that might be a little overkill! Enjoy the rest of your high school years, don't worry about getting too bogged down with all these medical podcasts!

Most of us don't listen to them either! :)
 
smq123 said:
True, but when I was in high school, there was no such thing as Discovery Health, and TLC never showed anything interesting. Why can't high schoolers watch those channels? Or do as we used to do in the old days - go into the library and look things up for ourselves! Instead of, you know, asking people on internet forums to look things up for them. :rolleyes:



I would recommend watching Discovery Health. They have some pretty amazing medical shows, and a lot of the surgical ones are very good.

I'm just curious - what kind of medical podcasts are you looking for? Do you mean like the stuff that Dr. Sanjay Gupta does for a general audience?
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It sucks. The cable I have doesn't have Discovery Health on it.
 
Blade28 said:
Whoa, that might be a little overkill! Enjoy the rest of your high school years, don't worry about getting too bogged down with all these medical podcasts!

Most of us don't listen to them either! :)
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Why is that the most common response I get? What if the part of our high school years we most enjoy is the thrill and excitement of knowing that we want to go into medicine? Like you said, in your days, you didn't have access to the kind of information we have (surgery videos, podcasts, etc.). Personally, stuff like that is exciting to me (and obviously to her too). Stop telling us we need to "enjoy our high school years" if that's what we're trying to do, please.
 
Cheisu said:
Stop telling us we need to "enjoy our high school years" if that's what we're trying to do, please.
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Hey, I get it. I volunteered the summer after my sophomore year of high school (before I had any idea that I wanted to be a physician). It was thrilling and exciting, and I loved it.

But you just gotta branch out and stay well-rounded. It's too early to be so focused on your career. There's nothing wrong with being passionate about your interests, we're just advising to keep all your options open, make sure you don't miss out on life.

And what I meant was, very few of us currently listen to podcasts - some med students may, but I'm pretty sure most residents/fellows/attendings don't (nor do they have time to). I was on the Internet back in high school - I first got online in 1994 - and of course I've always been hungry for knowledge, so of course I read up on everything that interested me. I didn't know I wanted to become a surgeon until college, but although I'd read up on surgical/medical topics and be fascinated, I certainly made sure not to neglect anything else of importance.

Remember, it's a marathon, not a sprint. If you're going to go into Cardiothoracic Surgery, that's at least 17+ years away before you're all said and done. (16+ if you go through a 3+3 integrated training program, and 14+ if you go through a 6-year BS/MD program as well.)

Because none of us highly-motivated, dedicated, passionate go-getters ever look back and wish we had started studying earlier, or had taken more credits in college, or had joined one additional pre-med club. We do, however, regret not taking up that particular hobby, or catching up with family/friends, or taking the opportunity to travel, learn a new language, etc. As I always tell people who are gung-ho in college, you don't want to miss out on the wealth of opportunities presented to you - things that you might never get to experience ever again. And no one looks back and remembers what they learned in their second semester of physics, or what was on the physiology midterm, or how many times you managed to get an A- instead of a B+. You look back and fondly remember the friends you made, the life-altering experiences you had, and the growth and maturity that you went through as you became an adult.

That's the end of my little speech. Best of luck to you.
 
QUOTE: "Because none of us highly-motivated, dedicated, passionate go-getters ever look back and wish we had started studying earlier, or had taken more credits in college, or had joined one additional pre-med club. We do, however, regret not taking up that particular hobby, or catching up with family/friends, or taking the opportunity to travel, learn a new language, etc. As I always tell people who are gung-ho in college, you don't want to miss out on the wealth of opportunities presented to you - things that you might never get to experience ever again. And no one looks back and remembers what they learned in their second semester of physics, or what was on the physiology midterm, or how many times you managed to get an A- instead of a B+. You look back and fondly remember the friends you made, the life-altering experiences you had, and the growth and maturity that you went through as you became an adult."

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Best post ever. This should be a sticky.

There will be a time when surgery isn't just the thing you most want to do, but the only thing you CAN do. As a resident, you'll spend at least half a decade with time for nothing else in your life. Your existence becomes singular.

Be dedicated, be excited, but also cultivate other interests that you'll never have the chance to explore again.

I love what I do, and I couldn't do anything else, but I can make that statement with confidence only because when I was a kid, I had the chance to experience what "else" really is. During the darker moments of your training - when you've hastened a patient's death (and you will), when you've let down your colleagues, your family, or yourself (and you will), you'll need to draw upon those experiences to maintain faith in yourself and in the path you've chosen.
 
ExtraCrispy said:
There will be a time when surgery isn't just the thing you most want to do, but the only thing you CAN do. As a resident, you'll spend at least half a decade with time for nothing else in your life. Your existence becomes singular.

Be dedicated, be excited, but also cultivate other interests that you'll never have the chance to explore again.

I love what I do, and I couldn't do anything else, but I can make that statement with confidence only because when I was a kid, I had the chance to experience what "else" really is. During the darker moments of your training - when you've hastened a patient's death (and you will), when you've let down your colleagues, your family, or yourself (and you will), you'll need to draw upon those experiences to maintain faith in yourself and in the path you've chosen.
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I completely agree. Those are great points. :thumbup:
 
Blade28 said:
Well don't forget he's also an attending here, so I've seen him up close.
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How does he balance his time b/ journalism and brain surgery? Sorry I digress...just curious. Also, is he not pretty IRL?
 
nykka3 said:
How does he balance his time b/ journalism and brain surgery? Sorry I digress...just curious. Also, is he not pretty IRL?
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I'm not the kind of guy who can judge which male is "pretty" and which male isn't. :laugh: But let's just say the camera is very flattering on him, and leave it at that.

He's not around much anymore now that he's a "journalist/correspondent" versus a regular medical expert on CNN, but still finds time to operate here and there.
 
Carissa said:
Right now, a few podcasts I'm into are BU General Internal Medicine Rounds, Emergency Medicine Lecture Series, EMS Lecture Series, Medically Speaking Podcast, and Dr. Gerald Cizadlo's A&P lectures. I know that's a fair amount of podcasts, but I'd like a few good video ones, because these are all only audio, which becomes very boring after a while. Thanks so much!
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I know that this is not what you want to hear, but I'll say it anyway - stop listening to the medical podcasts (how much of those do you really understand anyway?). Start listening to Rosetta Stone on your iPod. Every med student should know medicine (and you'll learn enough medicine eventually). But NOT every med student knows Spanish/Chinese/Vietnamese - but it can make your life much easier if you can communicate with these patients without the use of an interpreter.

Cheisu said:
Why is that the most common response I get? What if the part of our high school years we most enjoy is the thrill and excitement of knowing that we want to go into medicine? Like you said, in your days, you didn't have access to the kind of information we have (surgery videos, podcasts, etc.). Personally, stuff like that is exciting to me (and obviously to her too). Stop telling us we need to "enjoy our high school years" if that's what we're trying to do, please.
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Because it's the truth. You're only going to be in college/high school once - you should enjoy it while you can.

And, I'm sorry, but do you come onto SDN to ask for genuine ADVICE, or are you just hoping that someone will tell you what you want to hear?

Blade28 said:
Because none of us highly-motivated, dedicated, passionate go-getters ever look back and wish we had started studying earlier, or had taken more credits in college, or had joined one additional pre-med club. We do, however, regret not taking up that particular hobby, or catching up with family/friends, or taking the opportunity to travel, learn a new language, etc. As I always tell people who are gung-ho in college, you don't want to miss out on the wealth of opportunities presented to you - things that you might never get to experience ever again. And no one looks back and remembers what they learned in their second semester of physics, or what was on the physiology midterm, or how many times you managed to get an A- instead of a B+. You look back and fondly remember the friends you made, the life-altering experiences you had, and the growth and maturity that you went through as you became an adult.
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Exactly! Your patients don't want a doctor that has read 18 different medical textbooks, or has listened to podcasts religiously since high school. They just want a doctor who they can TALK to - not just about medicine, but about football, baseball, art, philosophy, religion, travel. This goes for surgical patients too Chiesu - they, of all patients (besides maybe oncology patients) have the biggest need to feel comfortable with their doctor. If you can't talk to the patient that you're going to operate on, and calm their fears, then you're always going to be a mediocre surgeon - no matter how many times you've read ACLS guidelines.
 
smq123 said:
I know that this is not what you want to hear, but I'll say it anyway - stop listening to the medical podcasts (how much of those do you really understand anyway?). Start listening to Rosetta Stone on your iPod. Every med student should know medicine (and you'll learn enough medicine eventually). But NOT every med student knows Spanish/Chinese/Vietnamese - but it can make your life much easier if you can communicate with these patients without the use of an interpreter.
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I also have Notes in Spanish Intermediate and Inspired Beginners (I'm sort of in between both levels), Spanish Para Todos (this would be my favorite, if it was ever updated), and Sesame Street in Spanish (I know, this is so weird, but I think one of the best ways to pick up on a language is by watching kid shows in that language. Oh, and I have Medical Spanish, but I don't listen to that as much ;).

And please stop telling me to enjoy my high school life. I really do! I go out with my friends every weekend (when I'm not at my ski house with my family). And while it's true that I don't have a boyfriend (at the moment :)), that's probably the only area where my social life is lacking. And, please, guys, I have soooo many interests outside of Medicine. My extracuriccular activities aren't just volunteering at hospitals, training to be an EMT, and founding the Medical Science Club at my school. I'm a cheerleader, a dancer, an active member of JSA (debate club), the Spanish Club, the school newspaper, SADD (Students Against Destructive Decisions), and the History Club.

I really am a well-rounded student and person. While, at the moment, medicine is my main (long-term) goal, it doesn't define who I am. I define who I am.
 
Carissa said:
And please stop telling me to enjoy my high school life. I really do! I go out with my friends every weekend (when I'm not at my ski house with my family). And while it's true that I don't have a boyfriend (at the moment :)), that's probably the only area where my social life is lacking. And, please, guys, I have soooo many interests outside of Medicine. My extracuriccular activities aren't just volunteering at hospitals, training to be an EMT, and founding the Medical Science Club at my school. I'm a cheerleader, a dancer, an active member of JSA (debate club), the Spanish Club, the school newspaper, SADD (Students Against Destructive Decisions), and the History Club.

I really am a well-rounded student and person. While, at the moment, medicine is my main (long-term) goal, it doesn't define who I am. I define who I am.
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I think the point she is trying to make is that you shouldn't develop tunnel vision, as it will hurt you as a person, and ultimately an applicant, down the road. You shouldn't wish away your life, pining away for a time yet to come when you will be at the stage in your life that is your ultimate goal. You need to enjoy the process. As long as you have balance in your life, I think it is fine to have an interest, although I still don't know what you get out of watching operative videos, but that is just me.
 
Carissa said:
And, please, guys, I have soooo many interests outside of Medicine. My extracuriccular activities aren't just volunteering at hospitals, training to be an EMT, and founding the Medical Science Club at my school. I'm a cheerleader, a dancer, an active member of JSA (debate club), the Spanish Club, the school newspaper, SADD (Students Against Destructive Decisions), and the History Club.

I really am a well-rounded student and person. While, at the moment, medicine is my main (long-term) goal, it doesn't define who I am. I define who I am.
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In that case, more power to you! :thumbup:
 
SocialistMD said:
I think the point she is trying to make is that you shouldn't develop tunnel vision, as it will hurt you as a person, and ultimately an applicant, down the road. You shouldn't wish away your life, pining away for a time yet to come when you will be at the stage in your life that is your ultimate goal. You need to enjoy the process. As long as you have balance in your life, I think it is fine to have an interest, although I still don't know what you get out of watching operative videos, but that is just me.
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Exactly! The process is what makes 2nd year (and step 1) bearable. The novelty is what makes third year bearable. There's something kind of magical about the first time you manage to pull concepts together and it suddenly makes sense. Or the first time you manage to get a diagnosis AND a treatment plan right on a complicated patient.

Enjoy being well-rounded, Carissa. I WAS well rounded - I'm fighting darn hard to stay that way. It gets harder the farther you get along in med school and residency.
 
As the resident old lady here, I can verify that (almost) everything my parents told me is true:

time speeds up as you get older; before you know it, you will be 40 and looking down the barrel at the AARP

college is the best time of your life; this one may not be so true as I have had many wonderful experiences since, but there is something to be said for the relative lack of responsibility, the new experiences, the youthful body and face

you should not be in a rush to grow up; I wanted to be a physician in grade school, junior high and HS. It took me a LONG time to become one...longer than most people because I did something else first. But I don't regret those years of doing other things because it made me who I am. I am very well rounded and have a good ability to relate to patients and colleagues becuse of those experiences. There is no sense in wishing years away so that you can be a surgeon NOW.
 
Thanks so much for all the input, guys, and I really do take it to heart, I swear. I try to be well-rounded, to not wish my years away. I just enjoy medical science. So does anyone have any podcast recommendations?
 
Carissa said:
Thanks so much for all the input, guys, and I really do take it to heart, I swear. I try to be well-rounded, to not wish my years away. I just enjoy medical science. So does anyone have any podcast recommendations?
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You sure have a one-track mind. ;)

This is really not a good place to ask for recommendations. Like Blade28 said, few residents/attendings (and even fewer third year med students) listen to medical podcasts. You would be better off asking this question in the pre-allopathic forum. When you're a resident, you're expected to get all your info from medical journals - and it's hard enough to keep up with all that reading without trying to listen to podcasts on top of that.

Medical podcasts ceased to be a fun/interesting hobby when I started subconsciously attempting to diagnose people that I saw on the subway. :( I would guess that most of the residents on these forums would agree.
 
Medical podcasts?! Screw that. I'd MUCH rather listen to Radiohead.

I came across some medical channel on XM radio the other day. I couldn't believe that somehow my membership fee was paying for that garbage. Blech! When I leave the hospital, I try to be a regular human being... I really have no interest in engaging in medical talk during my leisure time.
 
I also don't listen to medical podcasts - nor have I ever searched for them. I didn't even know that reputable ones (i.e. ones by physicians) existed!

Like Castro said, I like to separate my work life from my private life. Although some degree of venting is necessary, I hate it when I'm out with my coresidents for dinner/drinks and all anyone is talking about is "shop talk." Can't we talk about something else?
 
Carissa said:
So does anyone have any podcast recommendations?
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I know SAGES is trying to put together some podcasts for minimally invasive procedures, but you have to be a member to access them. I think that is the problem you are going to find with all of the "really good stuff;" many places keep it under lock and key. SurgyTec (and I can't believe I'm contributing to this) is another web site that hosts videos, but not podcasts.
 
Blade28 said:
I also don't listen to medical podcasts - nor have I ever searched for them. I didn't even know that reputable ones (i.e. ones by physicians) existed!

Like Castro said, I like to separate my work life from my private life. Although some degree of venting is necessary, I hate it when I'm out with my coresidents for dinner/drinks and all anyone is talking about is "shop talk." Can't we talk about something else?
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I think we do pretty well here! But you're right...its hard to get away from shop talk when surrounded by your colleagues.
 
Winged Scapula said:
I think we do pretty well here! But you're right...its hard to get away from shop talk when surrounded by your colleagues.
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I can't remember the last time there was anything surgical even mentioned in these forums. I guess that's why I keep coming back. :)
 
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