DAT Done - 8/27/07 - I can sleep again.

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PAT - 24 (99.3)
QR - 19 (81.9)
RC - 23 (92.6)
BIO - 24 (98.4)
GC - 19 (70.4) 😳
OC - 26 (97.7)
TS - 22 (95.3)
AA - 22 (95.4)

University of California, Davis
3.22 BCP
3.26 Sciences
3.36 Non-Sciences
3.29 Cumulative

Materials used:
- Schaum's Biology
- Kaplan Blue Book
- DAT Destroyer
- DAT Achiever
- DAT TopScore
- Crack the PAT

Hours slept per night for a month and a half:
6

The test:

PAT was pretty easy. I was smiling this dumb smile as I answered the questions. The trick is just getting lots of practice. Use TopScore, Achiever, Crack the PAT, etc. Everything was really straightforward, even the angles. There were only a few angles that I had to mark, but other than that, a lot of them reminded me of Kaplan and how if you just found the largest and smallest, you instantly had the answer. I think Crack the PAT also gave me lots of confidence overall going into the test (I was getting 23's on it). I did pretty well on Achiver's and Topscore's too. I should note that I was already doing pretty well in the PAT before practicing...probably because I do lots of art and play lots of 3D videogames (or, at least, I used to before studying for this test). However, it really is important to keep the feel of the PAT fresh in your mind before the test. I did one Crack the PAT every day leading up to the DAT.

QR was, for the most part, really straightforward and I could've probably gotten a 20 or 21 on it if I'dve just skipped to all the fast/easy ones. I recommend that you immediately skip the ones that you KNOW will take you a while to do. I repeat, even if you know HOW to do a certain problem, if it will take you at least a minute and a half to set it up and whatnot, go on to an easier one. Each question is worth the same amount of points! I didn't get any crazy probabilities or anything, and the word problems were just a matter of setting up the simultaneous equations. I recommend DAT Destroyer, DAT Achiever, and DAT TopScore for practice. Memorize all the trig identities and all the area and volume formulas! Look at the ADA website--they tell you what they'll ask you--review those things on Wikipedia or in some textbook!

RC was pretty easy, but I still felt some pressure to do well in it because I'm an English major (doubling in Bio) so it would look pretty bad if I got a low score. I never bother doing Kaplan's outline method--what a waste of time. I just skip all the ones that "require" you to've read the whole thing and go for the fact questions. I just look for key words. Once you find the key word, you're going to end up reading the paragraph it's in. You're gonna end up doing this for most of the questions, so in effect, it's basically like reading the whole passage! But make sure you are FAST at scanning. NOW you can go back and answer those tone/inference questions! Practice with Topscore, Achiever, and Kaplan.

BIO was the test I was most scared of going into the test; it's such a broad category. I probably marked seven or eight questions (but then again, I ALWAYS mark a lot of them). I had about 30 minutes left after going through all 100 questions, so I just focused on my marked BIO (and GC) questions. Make sure you know about the immune system, molecular & cell biology lab techniques, steps in metabolism, etc. Like a lot of people have mentioned, it is a lot more general than Achiever and Topscore. HOWEVER, both those practice test softwares are really good for diagnosing what you need to study. I was getting 17-19's on these tests in BIO, but I made sure to review the parts I scored low in. When I started studying for this, I read the Kaplan Blue Book, but I realized it was very general. The Schaum goes into slightly more depth, but still if you need to learn something that you are really bad at, read it in a REAL textbook then go back to these review books. The real textbooks were written for people who had never learned these things before. You can get by if you REALLY understand the concepts. There were only a few questions where you either you KNEW it or you didn't, but even then you could narrow it down with the knowledge you already had. Test yourself with DAT Destroyer, make sure you know everything inside of it, and then diagnose yourself with Achiever and Topscore!

GC was the section that gave me the most trouble on the actual test and I was actually worried I would get a 17 or something. I only had about four or five calculations, and you never had to do actual math because it was all set up for you in the answers. I was never good at GC in general so I'm glad I even got a 19. DAT Destroyer is GREAT if you have no idea where to start. The test, as a lot of people have said before, was more conceptual than what most of us had expected it to be like. However, concepts always have a math part to them, so it's VERY important to know all the formulas and what goes into them (for example, the free energy equation...what does it mean for a reaction to be endothermic/exothermic and how does that affect sponteneity, etc.). I also read an actual general chemistry textbook to review things I had poor background with. Once again, diagnose yourself with the practice test software.

OC was so easy oh my gosh. Just read the Kaplan Blue Book and do DAT Destroyer. I read an actual o-chem book for it too, which was good for remembering stuff I'd forgotten in the past three years.

Sorry if this review wasn't in-depth enough. My test was from 5pm-9:30pm so I'm pretty tired. Can't wait to sleep.

Another thing, I DID take the Kaplan class, but I never used the online resources (I know there were a lot of practice tests), so it was basically like not having taken it. The lectures themselves were pretty worthless, but I'm sure the practice tests would've probably been good to take.

Good luck to everyone else!
 
Haha, yes I had Andrew too. I took it this past spring quarter. I had no time to do any of the "REQUIRED" things because I was too busy with MCB120L. Oh well, I survived 🙂. Are you in PDS?
 
PAT - 24 (99.3)
QR - 19 (81.9)
RC - 23 (92.6)
BIO - 24 (98.4)
GC - 19 (70.4) 😳
OC - 26 (97.7)
TS - 22 (95.3)
AA - 22 (95.4)

University of California, Davis
3.22 BCP
3.26 Sciences
3.36 Non-Sciences
3.29 Cumulative

Materials used:
- Schaum's Biology
- Kaplan Blue Book
- DAT Destroyer
- DAT Achiever
- DAT TopScore
- Crack the PAT

Hours slept per night for a month and a half:
6

The test:

PAT was pretty easy. I was smiling this dumb smile as I answered the questions. The trick is just getting lots of practice. Use TopScore, Achiever, Crack the PAT, etc. Everything was really straightforward, even the angles. There were only a few angles that I had to mark, but other than that, a lot of them reminded me of Kaplan and how if you just found the largest and smallest, you instantly had the answer. I think Crack the PAT also gave me lots of confidence overall going into the test (I was getting 23's on it). I did pretty well on Achiver's and Topscore's too. I should note that I was already doing pretty well in the PAT before practicing...probably because I do lots of art and play lots of 3D videogames (or, at least, I used to before studying for this test). However, it really is important to keep the feel of the PAT fresh in your mind before the test. I did one Crack the PAT every day leading up to the DAT.

QR was, for the most part, really straightforward and I could've probably gotten a 20 or 21 on it if I'dve just skipped to all the fast/easy ones. I recommend that you immediately skip the ones that you KNOW will take you a while to do. I repeat, even if you know HOW to do a certain problem, if it will take you at least a minute and a half to set it up and whatnot, go on to an easier one. Each question is worth the same amount of points! I didn't get any crazy probabilities or anything, and the word problems were just a matter of setting up the simultaneous equations. I recommend DAT Destroyer, DAT Achiever, and DAT TopScore for practice. Memorize all the trig identities and all the area and volume formulas! Look at the ADA website--they tell you what they'll ask you--review those things on Wikipedia or in some textbook!

RC was pretty easy, but I still felt some pressure to do well in it because I'm an English major (doubling in Bio) so it would look pretty bad if I got a low score. I never bother doing Kaplan's outline method--what a waste of time. I just skip all the ones that "require" you to've read the whole thing and go for the fact questions. I just look for key words. Once you find the key word, you're going to end up reading the paragraph it's in. You're gonna end up doing this for most of the questions, so in effect, it's basically like reading the whole passage! But make sure you are FAST at scanning. NOW you can go back and answer those tone/inference questions! Practice with Topscore, Achiever, and Kaplan.

BIO was the test I was most scared of going into the test; it's such a broad category. I probably marked seven or eight questions (but then again, I ALWAYS mark a lot of them). I had about 30 minutes left after going through all 100 questions, so I just focused on my marked BIO (and GC) questions. Make sure you know about the immune system, molecular & cell biology lab techniques, steps in metabolism, etc. Like a lot of people have mentioned, it is a lot more general than Achiever and Topscore. HOWEVER, both those practice test softwares are really good for diagnosing what you need to study. I was getting 17-19's on these tests in BIO, but I made sure to review the parts I scored low in. When I started studying for this, I read the Kaplan Blue Book, but I realized it was very general. The Schaum goes into slightly more depth, but still if you need to learn something that you are really bad at, read it in a REAL textbook then go back to these review books. The real textbooks were written for people who had never learned these things before. You can get by if you REALLY understand the concepts. There were only a few questions where you either you KNEW it or you didn't, but even then you could narrow it down with the knowledge you already had. Test yourself with DAT Destroyer, make sure you know everything inside of it, and then diagnose yourself with Achiever and Topscore!

GC was the section that gave me the most trouble on the actual test and I was actually worried I would get a 17 or something. I only had about four or five calculations, and you never had to do actual math because it was all set up for you in the answers. I was never good at GC in general so I'm glad I even got a 19. DAT Destroyer is GREAT if you have no idea where to start. The test, as a lot of people have said before, was more conceptual than what most of us had expected it to be like. However, concepts always have a math part to them, so it's VERY important to know all the formulas and what goes into them (for example, the free energy equation...what does it mean for a reaction to be endothermic/exothermic and how does that affect sponteneity, etc.). I also read an actual general chemistry textbook to review things I had poor background with. Once again, diagnose yourself with the practice test software.

OC was so easy oh my gosh. Just read the Kaplan Blue Book and do DAT Destroyer. I read an actual o-chem book for it too, which was good for remembering stuff I'd forgotten in the past three years.

Sorry if this review wasn't in-depth enough. My test was from 5pm-9:30pm so I'm pretty tired. Can't wait to sleep.

Another thing, I DID take the Kaplan class, but I never used the online resources (I know there were a lot of practice tests), so it was basically like not having taken it. The lectures themselves were pretty worthless, but I'm sure the practice tests would've probably been good to take.

Good luck to everyone else!
Wow your OCHEM score is amazing.👍 Congrat!!!!
You should apply to schools that prefer DAT scores over GPA.
 
PDS = Davis Pre-Dental Society. Thanks for the reassurance. BTW, what's your top pick? Is it UOP too? I wouldn't mind going anywhere, but of course I'd like to stay in California. Still, UOP (or UCSF) would be a dream come true since I'm from the Bay Area.
 
You will def. get invites from UoP and UCSF. My top pick is actually UCSF 1st, then UoP. The good thing is UC Davis is actually one of the biggest feeder schools for UCSF and UoP so thats def. a plus. No, I am not in the predental society...are you in there?
 
You will def. get invites from UoP and UCSF. My top pick is actually UCSF 1st, then UoP. The good thing is UC Davis is actually one of the biggest feeder schools for UCSF and UoP so thats def. a plus. No, I am not in the predental society...are you in there?

Yeah, I was in it. It was a pretty fun club and also there were a lot of extra-curric opportunities. Maybe you'll get into UCSF and I'll get into UOP and we can be rivals. 😉

Anywho, I'm about to go to bed. Goodnight!
 
wow! pure domination. you defiantly put a saddle on the DAT and rode it like it was a mini horse. :banana: i know how you feel about g chem. i share the same hatred for it.
 
SmarterRay-

Nice work. You did well all the way around and especially in RC and PAT, two categories people seem to think are especially important.

Do you have a PreDents account? I already talked to Jiga and it would be nice to follow your guys interview process.

UoP and UCSF are two of my top picks too.

Basically it appears to me that UC Davis is a really difficult school because you guys have been rocking the sh** out of this test.

d
 
SmarterRay-

Nice work. You did well all the way around and especially in RC and PAT, two categories people seem to think are especially important.

Do you have a PreDents account? I already talked to Jiga and it would be nice to follow your guys interview process.

UoP and UCSF are two of my top picks too.

Basically it appears to me that UC Davis is a really difficult school because you guys have been rocking the sh** out of this test.

d

Thanks! Yeah, RC was probably my least "studied" thing, but I still made sure to prepare for it by doing the practice tests. The PAT...it's kind of like a hard videogame that will affect the rest of your life. Good thing I like videogames.

I made a predents account just now: http://www.predents.com/?page=user&user_id=2870

Also, UC Davis...haha, it was pretty challenging. But, I guess it was worth it in the end since it taught me how to study.

Good luck!
 
Thanks! Yeah, RC was probably my least "studied" thing, but I still made sure to prepare for it by doing the practice tests. The PAT...it's kind of like a hard videogame that will affect the rest of your life. Good thing I like videogames.

I made a predents account just now: http://www.predents.com/?page=user&user_id=2870

Also, UC Davis...haha, it was pretty challenging. But, I guess it was worth it in the end since it taught me how to study.

Good luck!


Hey just out of curiosity...are you class of 07 or 08?
 
PAT - 24 (99.3)
QR - 19 (81.9)
RC - 23 (92.6)
BIO - 24 (98.4)
GC - 19 (70.4) 😳
OC - 26 (97.7)
TS - 22 (95.3)
AA - 22 (95.4)

University of California, Davis
3.22 BCP
3.26 Sciences
3.36 Non-Sciences
3.29 Cumulative

Materials used:
- Schaum's Biology
- Kaplan Blue Book
- DAT Destroyer
- DAT Achiever
- DAT TopScore
- Crack the PAT

Hours slept per night for a month and a half:
6

The test:

PAT was pretty easy. I was smiling this dumb smile as I answered the questions. The trick is just getting lots of practice. Use TopScore, Achiever, Crack the PAT, etc. Everything was really straightforward, even the angles. There were only a few angles that I had to mark, but other than that, a lot of them reminded me of Kaplan and how if you just found the largest and smallest, you instantly had the answer. I think Crack the PAT also gave me lots of confidence overall going into the test (I was getting 23's on it). I did pretty well on Achiver's and Topscore's too. I should note that I was already doing pretty well in the PAT before practicing...probably because I do lots of art and play lots of 3D videogames (or, at least, I used to before studying for this test). However, it really is important to keep the feel of the PAT fresh in your mind before the test. I did one Crack the PAT every day leading up to the DAT.

QR was, for the most part, really straightforward and I could've probably gotten a 20 or 21 on it if I'dve just skipped to all the fast/easy ones. I recommend that you immediately skip the ones that you KNOW will take you a while to do. I repeat, even if you know HOW to do a certain problem, if it will take you at least a minute and a half to set it up and whatnot, go on to an easier one. Each question is worth the same amount of points! I didn't get any crazy probabilities or anything, and the word problems were just a matter of setting up the simultaneous equations. I recommend DAT Destroyer, DAT Achiever, and DAT TopScore for practice. Memorize all the trig identities and all the area and volume formulas! Look at the ADA website--they tell you what they'll ask you--review those things on Wikipedia or in some textbook!

RC was pretty easy, but I still felt some pressure to do well in it because I'm an English major (doubling in Bio) so it would look pretty bad if I got a low score. I never bother doing Kaplan's outline method--what a waste of time. I just skip all the ones that "require" you to've read the whole thing and go for the fact questions. I just look for key words. Once you find the key word, you're going to end up reading the paragraph it's in. You're gonna end up doing this for most of the questions, so in effect, it's basically like reading the whole passage! But make sure you are FAST at scanning. NOW you can go back and answer those tone/inference questions! Practice with Topscore, Achiever, and Kaplan.

BIO was the test I was most scared of going into the test; it's such a broad category. I probably marked seven or eight questions (but then again, I ALWAYS mark a lot of them). I had about 30 minutes left after going through all 100 questions, so I just focused on my marked BIO (and GC) questions. Make sure you know about the immune system, molecular & cell biology lab techniques, steps in metabolism, etc. Like a lot of people have mentioned, it is a lot more general than Achiever and Topscore. HOWEVER, both those practice test softwares are really good for diagnosing what you need to study. I was getting 17-19's on these tests in BIO, but I made sure to review the parts I scored low in. When I started studying for this, I read the Kaplan Blue Book, but I realized it was very general. The Schaum goes into slightly more depth, but still if you need to learn something that you are really bad at, read it in a REAL textbook then go back to these review books. The real textbooks were written for people who had never learned these things before. You can get by if you REALLY understand the concepts. There were only a few questions where you either you KNEW it or you didn't, but even then you could narrow it down with the knowledge you already had. Test yourself with DAT Destroyer, make sure you know everything inside of it, and then diagnose yourself with Achiever and Topscore!

GC was the section that gave me the most trouble on the actual test and I was actually worried I would get a 17 or something. I only had about four or five calculations, and you never had to do actual math because it was all set up for you in the answers. I was never good at GC in general so I'm glad I even got a 19. DAT Destroyer is GREAT if you have no idea where to start. The test, as a lot of people have said before, was more conceptual than what most of us had expected it to be like. However, concepts always have a math part to them, so it's VERY important to know all the formulas and what goes into them (for example, the free energy equation...what does it mean for a reaction to be endothermic/exothermic and how does that affect sponteneity, etc.). I also read an actual general chemistry textbook to review things I had poor background with. Once again, diagnose yourself with the practice test software.

OC was so easy oh my gosh. Just read the Kaplan Blue Book and do DAT Destroyer. I read an actual o-chem book for it too, which was good for remembering stuff I'd forgotten in the past three years.

Sorry if this review wasn't in-depth enough. My test was from 5pm-9:30pm so I'm pretty tired. Can't wait to sleep.

Another thing, I DID take the Kaplan class, but I never used the online resources (I know there were a lot of practice tests), so it was basically like not having taken it. The lectures themselves were pretty worthless, but I'm sure the practice tests would've probably been good to take.

Good luck to everyone else!

Are you still sleeping because it's not AUG 27th yet?
 
Hey smarterray.... when you say you studied the listed material, did you study it all? For example the Schuams, did you learn it inside out? Did you know the very detail of everything in there? vbmenu_register("postmenu_5499714", true);
 
2007! Same as you. Are you going to get a job for the year off? I want to travel...and also learn kung fu.

Kung fu is nice! Although I am asian I do not know any kung fu. I think I might just rest for a little bit, and then apply to be a kaplan tutor. I heard they require 90% in all areas, which means my RC of 22 won't make it...makes me kinda worried.
 
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