MD WAMC + School List Help, 3.78 cGPA, 3.63 sGPA, no research, California ORM 5 years nontrad

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My stats are not super super low, but they are definitely quite low compared to the average Asian matriculant, so I'm very worried.

California Asian Male, 26 y/o nontrad (graduated 2021)

cGPA: 3.78 (somewhat upward trend)

sGPA: 3.63 (somewhat upward trend)

MCAT: 510

Undergrad: UCLA

WARS + LizzyM: WARS 63, LizzyM 68.80 (55th percentile)

Clinical experience: 1900 hours EMT, 1.5 years (MME), 1700 hours ER scribe, 1.5 years (MME), 150 hours patient transport and Children's hospital volunteer

Nonclinical volunteering: 600 hours emotional support counselor for survivors of sexual assault and domestic abuse, 3 years (MME)

Research: I have NO research experience.

Shadowing: 50 hours spread across emergency medicine (at my workplace as a scribe) and family medicine (local clinic)

Leadership: 200 hours Spanish club president

Other: 840 hours student operations representative at university store, 200 hours singing club, 40 hours tutoring (underserved elementary school students)

Hobbies: Singing, Language learning

P/S: Big focus on advocacy as a central theme. I believe the quality of my essays are at least pretty good if not strong, I'm generally a decent writer but I understand this is subjective.




Here is my school list, total of 37 schools.

Stats-aligned targets: (22)

Alice Walton, Roseman, Albany, Rosalind Franklin, Quinnipiac, Rush, Burnette, Frist, CUSM, Medical College of Wisconsin, University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health, Michigan State, Arizona-Tucson, Central Michigan, Wayne State, Marshall, Louisville, Boonshoft, UC Davis, Washington State, University of Illinois, Toledo

Somewhere between reach and target: (8)
Drexel, Tulane, Temple, Larner at University of Vermont, SUNY Upstate, SUNY Downstate, Eastern Virginia at Old Dominion, Spencer Fox at University of Utah

Reaches: (7)
George Washington, Wake Forest, Creighton, Geisinger Commonwealth, Western Michigan, West Virginia, Oakland Beaumont


1. Are there any schools I should remove or consider adding?
2. Are there any schools with such a heavy in-state bias that it's not worth applying?
3. Are there any schools with such a heavy research bias that it's not worth applying without any research?

 

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You have several state public schools on your list that admit few non residents with your stats and no connection to the state.
I suggest these schools:
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Albany
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Penn State
Geisinger
Virginia Commonwealth
Eastern Virginia
Wake Forest
Methodist (when it opens)
Belmont
Alice Walton
Roseman
Tulane
TCU
Creighton
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
Rush
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
California University
Kaiser
Loma Linda (if you fit their mission)
UC Davis
UC Riverside (if you fit their mission)

 

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You have several state public schools on your list that admit few non residents with your stats and no connection to the state.
I suggest these schools:
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Albany
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Penn State
Geisinger
Virginia Commonwealth
Eastern Virginia
Wake Forest
Methodist (when it opens)
Belmont
Alice Walton
Roseman
Tulane
TCU
Creighton
Ponce (St. Louis)
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
Rush
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
California University
Kaiser
Loma Linda (if you fit their mission)
UC Davis
UC Riverside (if you fit their mission)

thank you for your advice. I considered the schools you added, but I initially removed them because of these reasons:


Jefferson and Penn State - MSAR says oldest date that prereqs can be completed is June 2020 and May 2018 respectively, but since I am a nontrad who started college in 2016, I believe most of my prereqs would not be considered acceptable at these schools.

Ponce and Virginia Commonwealth - at least one of my stats (cGPA, sGPA, MCAT) are below the 10th percentile or very close to 10th percentile

Loyola - MSAR says 1.45% interview rate for OOS students



Should I still consider adding these schools to my list? I'll definitely add Methodist (if available) and Kaiser to my list.

 

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You have the clinical and non clinical hours and activities that Loyola is looking for. Include Ponce and Virginia Commonwealth.

 

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You have the clinical and non clinical hours and activities that Loyola is looking for. Include Ponce and Virginia Commonwealth.

How is this updated school list? As far as I know, all of the OOS public schools I included have at least moderate OOS friendliness.

3.78cGPA, 3.63sGPA, 510 MCAT, WARS 63, LizzyM 68.80, no research, 4000 hours clinical, 600 hours nonclinical volunteering, advocacy narrative


Alice Walton
Roseman
Quinnipiac
Albany
Burnette TCU
California University of Science and Medicine
Rosalind Franklin
Drexel
Marshall
Medical College of Wisconsin
Rush
Toledo
Belmont
University of Arizona - Tucson
UC Davis
University of Illinois
University of Louisville
University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health
Wayne State
Wright State Boonshoft
Larner at the University of Vermont
Eastern Virginia
Temple
Loyola Stritch
Spencer Fox Eccles at University of Utah
SUNY Downstate
SUNY Upstate
Tulane
Ponce
University of Massachusetts
Creighton
Dartmouth
Geisinger Commonwealth
George Washington
Kaiser
Oakland Beaumont
Saint Louis
University of Cincinnati
Virginia Commonwealth
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Western Michigan


I also considered adding UC Riverside, but I don't live in Riverside or Inland Empire so I didn't think I would have a chance. But now I'm hearing they are very friendly to non-trads, so I'm not sure.

 

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Some of those OOS state public schools are not as friendly as they seem. For Marshall and West Virginia the non residents are from bordering states. Half of Toledo non residents are from Michigan. Utah has regional preference. A MCAT of 510 is not competitive for non residents for the SUNYs or U Wisconsin