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This is only marginally related to dentistry (or maybe even not at all), but it still caught my interest. Reposted from DT.

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Better their profession than mine...or is it worse?
No Dentist Left Behind

My dentist is great! He sends me reminders so I don't forget checkups.
He uses the latest techniques based on research. He never hurts me,
and I've got all my teeth, so when I ran into him the other day, I was
eager to see if he'd heard about the new state program. I knew he'd
think it was great.

"Did you hear about the new state program to measure effectiveness
of dentists with their young patients?" I said.

" No," he said. He didn't seem too thrilled. "How will they do that?"

"It's quite simple," I said. "They will just count the number of cavities
each patient has at age 10, 14, and 18 and average that to determine a
dentist's rating. Dentists will be rated as Excellent, Good, Average,
Below average, and Unsatisfactory. That way parents will know which
are the best dentists. It will also encourage the less effective
dentists to get better. Poor dentists who don't improve could lose their
licenses to practice."

"That's terrible," he said.

"What? That's not a good attitude," I said. "Don't you think we should
try to improve children's dental health in this state?"

"Sure I do," he said, "but that's not a fair way to determine who is
practicing good dentistry."

"Why not?" I said. "It makes perfect sense to me."

"Well, it's so obvious," he said. "Don't you see that dentists don't all
work with the same clientele; so much depends on things we can't
control. For example, I work in a rural area with a high percentage of
patients from deprived homes, while some of my colleagues work in
upper middle class neighborhoods. Many of the parents I work with
don't bring their children to see me until there is some kind of
problem; I don't get to do much preventive work."

"Also," he said, "many of the parents I serve let their kids eat way too
much candy from an early age, unlike more educated parents who
understand the relationship between sugar and decay. To top it all off,"
he added, "so many of my clients have well water which is untreated
and has no fluoride in it. Do you have any idea how much difference
early use of fluoride can make?"

"It sounds like you're making excuses," I said. I couldn't believe my
dentist would be so defensive. He does a great job.

"I am not!" he said. "My best patients are as good as anyone's, my
work is as good as anyone's, but my average cavity count is going to
be higher than a lot of other dentists because I chose to work where I
am needed most."

"Don't get touchy," I said.

"Touchy?" he said. His face had turned red and from the way he was
clenching and unclenching his jaws, I was afraid he was going to
damage his teeth. "Try furious. In a system like this, I will end up
being rated average, below average, or worse. My more educated patients
who see these ratings may believe this so-called rating actually is a
measure of my ability and proficiency as a dentist. They may leave me,
and I'll be left with only the most needy patients. And my cavity
average score will get even worse. On top of that, how will I attract good
dental hygienists and other excellent dentists to my practice if it is
labeled below average?"

"I think you are overreacting," I said.

"'Complaining, excuse making and stonewalling won't improve dental
health'...I am quoting from a leading member of the DOC," I noted.

"What's the DOC?" he asked.

"It's the Dental Oversight Committee," I said, "a group made up of
mostly lay persons to make sure dentistry in this state gets improved."

"Spare me," he said, "I can't believe this. Reasonable people won't
buy it," he said hopefully.

The program sounded reasonable to me, so I asked, "How else would
you measure good dentistry?"

"Come watch me work," he said. "Observe my processes."

"That's too complicated and time consuming," I said. "Cavities are the bottom line, and you can't argue with the bottom line.
It's an absolute measure."

"That's what I'm afraid my parents and prospective patients will think.
This can't be happening," he said despairingly.

"Now, now," I said, "don't despair. The state will help you some."

"How?" he said.

"If you're rated poorly, they'll send a dentist who is rated excellent
to help straighten you out," I said brightly.

"You mean," he said, "they'll send a dentist with a wealthy clientele to
show me how to work on severe juvenile dental problems with which I
have probably had much more experience? Big help."

"There you go again," I said. "You aren't acting professionally at all."

"You don't get it," he said. "Doing this would be like grading schools
and teachers on an average score on a test of children's progress
without regard to influences outside the school, the home, the
community served and stuff like that. Why would they do something
so unfair to dentists? No one would ever think of doing that to schools."
 
What's this excerpt from? Where'd the guys from DT find it?
 

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The way that guy was talking, you wouldn't think he had any respect at all for his dentist or his professional opinion. What a flake.
 
RN, I think he was playing devil's advocate.
 
Actually, the point of the article is to demonstrate how the philosophy of the No Child Left Behind Act might appear, if it were lifted from the education field and implemented for dentistry instead. Thus, my comment before anything else about its marginal direct application to dentistry.

Raider, you really hit the problem squarely on its head, though; and since you appear to be a pretty fervent Republican based on recent comments, I'm curious to hear more of what you think. I'm not defending or attacking NCLB- I just threw the parable out for public consumption. Any more thoughts?
 
Moral of Bill's story:

SUPPORT ORGANIZED DENTISTRY!

Your local dental society, state dental association, and the ADA's lobbying efforts are what's keeping uninformed crap like that from ruining our profession.
 
I see your point here....but I don't think it is a fair analogy because a teacher sees a student everyday. Were a dentist to see a patient everyday, if there were any caries, I would say that he/she is a poor dentist.

I don't know everything about this proposal/plan, but I think the general premise behind it is correct-some system of accountability for our schools. But at the same time, it seems foolish to have no room for variation.
 
Originally posted by UBTom
Moral of Bill's story:

SUPPORT ORGANIZED DENTISTRY!

Your local dental society, state dental association, and the ADA's lobbying efforts are what's keeping uninformed crap like that from ruining our profession.

Tom's right. Organized dentistry is very important, guys. Most of the crap that health care suffers is due to the fact that the government (not the health orgs - AMA, ADA, etc.) implements laws that they think would work, and it's a shame.

Give the ADA and your local dental organizations your full support.
 
Originally posted by UBTom
Moral of Bill's story:

SUPPORT ORGANIZED DENTISTRY!

Your local dental society, state dental association, and the ADA's lobbying efforts are what's keeping uninformed crap like that from ruining our profession.
Excellent point, Tom. I should've known I could count on you to pull a relevant lesson out of an arbitrary, hypothetical story like that. 😀
 
Another lesson for the ADA is to be leary of becomming too involved in partisan politics. The old addage "those who live by the sword die by the sword" is very applicable in this situation.
If an organization believes that politicians will remain objective about issues when given an opportunity to punish perceived foes, that organization is living in fantasy land.

My advice to any professional organization is to keep a balanced relationship with politicians of all persausians irregardless of your own political bias. Present your viewpoints on issues in a professional manner. Support your viewpoints with objective data and logic that promotes the general welfare rather than just your own. Never, never threaten or be percerived to threaten the political career of any politician if he or she disagrees with your viewpoint. You may suffer some short term setbacks by adopting such an approach, but will greatly reduce your risk of loosing big on the important long term strategic issues.
 
Organized dentistry is a GREAT bonus for all of us in the profession, and nobody at all should blink twice while paying your ASDA/ADA dues. The things that they do for all of us, and will be doing, you honestly can't put a dollar value on.

Look at a few key issues that the ADA(and other state societies for that matter) have taken on for all us us recently.

#1 The Insurance industry, getting them to use current data when setting fees(higher fees for us:clap: ) And inmy state, the CT Dental association successfully went after Anthem Blue Cross/ Bue Sheild so that any newly enrolling dentist could pick and choose what plans they'd sign up with, instead of automatically being enrolled will ALL PLANS(read as HMO's:wow: )

#2 The Amalgam issue. Like it or not, if you do or don't place it you have to deal with it, especially when it comes to amalgam removal and waste water. This is likely to be a huge issue over the next decade or so, and the ADA will have our back 100%

#3 Licensure. The ADA house of delegates is actively doing its best to get away with the archaic regional board system, and if you can get some of the "good 'ol boys" to die off, you'll see the regional board exam being a thing of the past.

The other great thing about the ADA is whenever the mass scare tatic media comes up with another non good science scare realted story(I figure we're about do for another 20/20 or Reader's Digest in the near future again🙄 😡 ) The folks at ADA are right there in a nanosecond with a wealth of factual as opposed to anecdotal information

Plus, as alot of you get ready to head into practice, the ADA's committee on The New Dentist has so much information in the form of both print and seminars to make things as smooth and easy for you as possible.
 
Originally posted by DrJeff
Organized dentistry is a GREAT bonus for all of us in the profession, and nobody at all should blink twice while paying your ASDA/ADA dues. The things that they do for all of us, and will be doing, you honestly can't put a dollar value on.

Look at a few key issues that the ADA(and other state societies for that matter) have taken on for all us us recently.

#1 The Insurance industry, getting them to use current data when setting fees(higher fees for us:clap: ) And inmy state, the CT Dental association successfully went after Anthem Blue Cross/ Bue Sheild so that any newly enrolling dentist could pick and choose what plans they'd sign up with, instead of automatically being enrolled will ALL PLANS(read as HMO's:wow: )

#2 The Amalgam issue. Like it or not, if you do or don't place it you have to deal with it, especially when it comes to amalgam removal and waste water. This is likely to be a huge issue over the next decade or so, and the ADA will have our back 100%

#3 Licensure. The ADA house of delegates is actively doing its best to get away with the archaic regional board system, and if you can get some of the "good 'ol boys" to die off, you'll see the regional board exam being a thing of the past.

The other great thing about the ADA is whenever the mass scare tatic media comes up with another non good science scare realted story(I figure we're about do for another 20/20 or Reader's Digest in the near future again🙄 😡 ) The folks at ADA are right there in a nanosecond with a wealth of factual as opposed to anecdotal information

Plus, as alot of you get ready to head into practice, the ADA's committee on The New Dentist has so much information in the form of both print and seminars to make things as smooth and easy for you as possible.

I'm so glad we have DrJeff here. It's like I hear everyday a new health watch type report that condemns new foods. I recently saw one that said, "You may be drinking too much water." WTF is that? Wow. I also remember seeing one report on how milk could be carcinogenic. No joke.

Good thing for the ADA. Try getting thousands of dentists to point out to the public/media that they're wrong.

Also, can't waitl till reciprocity happens across the nation. Though the NERBs offer a wide range of states to practice in, it'd be nice to be able to spread out as you please.
 
Originally posted by drPheta
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Also, can't waitl till reciprocity happens across the nation. Though the NERBs offer a wide range of states to practice in, it'd be nice to be able to spread out as you please.

The biggest problem with the NERB's is that they have alot of examiners in powerfull places that enjoy the stipend they get as they're nearing the end of their careers, and the chance to spend a few days away from home in a really nice hotel eating at the best Steakhouses in town all the while having a few cocktails.

Honestly, does the ability to obturate a canal the size of a telephone pole, or do 1 amalgam and 1 composite(under the watching eyes of very subjective examiners) make you "licensable" or is graduating from an accredidated dental schools and passing the wriiten national boards a better sign!
 
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