Chances 3.94cGPA, 3.91 BCPM, 39R MCAT

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Hi all,

I am planning to apply as early as soon as possible in early June =) A NJ Resident

cGPA: 3.94
BCPM: 3.91

College/Degree: Princeton, Economics

cGPA and sGPA: both 3.94

MCAT: 39R - 14PS 12VR 13BS WS = R

Extracurriculars:

-3 years same lab, 1 publication (4th author Nature), 1 2nd author in a low-level journal in high school if that counts for anything, misc. posters, presentations, etc.
-MCAT tutor 1 year
-TA 2 semesters
-Shadowing ~100 hours
-EMT 3yr ~1000 hr (required 40hrs/mo minimum)
-Hospital volunteer 2yr 200hours
-School newspaper 2yr section editor 1yr
-Study abroad 1 semester
-Church Youth Group, volunteered at various places, set up events

I know my stats are competitive, but I have minimal leadership and since my schools are very top heavy, as you all say 'they want to train future leaders of medicine'. Is there anything else you could recommend I do for leadership? As a NJ resident, are there any 'safety' schools I can add?

I saw this leadership 'level' list catalystik posted. I've been spending a while trying to find it, but can't. It divided up leadership into various levels and gave examples. If anyone knows what I am talking about and can post it, that'd be a big help!

School List

Harvard
Yale
Duke
Baylor
Columbia
JHU
Vanderbilt
Michigan
UMDNJ
Stanford
Washington U
Northwestern
Case
 
As requested:
Leadership:
Mobius1985 said:
From a conversation with an adcomm member I learned that (at his school) one gets points for the intensity of the leadership experiences listed. Here are some examples of activities I've learned of on SDN and how I'd rank them (opinions, as always, may vary). Multiple experiences increase the score. It's OK to shine in another area if leadership isn't your forte.

Level I: 1) President of a club for a year. Led meetings. 2) Start small, common-interest club eg card playing, sport, adventure, campus cleanup. 3) Mentor freshman. 4) Initiate food drive among your friends and collect donations for a food pantry. 5) Member of student senate.

Level II: 1) Club officer multiple years, eventually president. 2) Start new club attracting 20+ members to do community service, or arranging speakers, or to successfully campaign for a change on campus. 3) Shift supervisor or trainer of new employees. 4) Team captain. 5) Officer of student senate.

Level III: 1) Board member for health-related organization or charitable foundation for several years who helps organize/participate in health fairs, involved in presentations to get funding for projects, brings opinions to the meetings and campaigns to effect change. 2) President of three clubs some of which do community service or raise money for projects. 3) Organize 3-4 charity concerts with large attendance coordinating multiple committees. 4) Direct a play.

Level IV: 1) Chief Editor of school paper, writing editorials to sway opinion. Direct policy. 2) President of student senate; initiates and carries through major change. 3) NCO or officer in the armed forces who trained/led a team/unit in combat.

Level V: 1) Founded a charitable group, raised thousands of dollars for many projects, multiple year involvement, group continues after your departure. Branch groups started in other locations under your leadership. 2) Start a free clinic, recruit doctors, nurses, and student workers to volunteer their time. Raise the money for supplies/pharmaceuticals or get them donated. Help hundreds to thousands of patients in the time you're involved. 3) Start a successful company with 5+ employees and make a profit. Guide growth, legal and financial aspects.
 
lol I think you have a chance at the schools you listed. Apply w/ your stats and background, give it a shot.
 
You have a 39/3.9 from Princeton, and nice ECs. Barring a poor PS or poor LORs you are going to get invites from pretty much every school you apply to. I wouldn't worry about a lack of leadership at all.

Also I think you should add Mount Sinai, NYU, and Cornell, unless you hate NYC.
 
I think you've got great chances at those schools. Certainly add safety schools (I have no suggestions, sorry).

For the leadership ranking: it sucks that teaching is not on there! Ha! We are what we are recognized for, I suppose, but effective teaching involves a lot more leadership than being a senate officer or club president. 🙄
 
For the leadership ranking: it sucks that teaching is not on there! Ha! We are what we are recognized for, I suppose, but effective teaching involves a lot more leadership than being a senate officer or club president. 🙄
Teaching is important enough that it has it's own category on the application.
 
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I think it's time to start seriously considering the caribbean. I know it's not what you want to hear, but you have to be honest about your chances.
 
These "ticking the boxes" issues on applications can be about packaging and presenting the things you have done in the right way. Newspaper section editor and setting up youth club events were team leadership roles - you were managing what other people did so as to produce results to a deadline. And sometimes managing volunteers can be more challenging than managing employees, in my opinion - if you have more limited controls and sanctions, for instance.)

As an EMT for 3 years/1000 hours you will have been a team worker, but you should also have examples where you were responding to incidents and the members of the public/family members present, or even other responders present, looked to you as the leader and followed your directions, because you had the knowledge of what to do to solve the medical issues. That experience should give you the basis for discussing the different roles in a team and how you managed having to change between those roles (team leader/team member/expert adviser) as respects different people, at a time of pressure.

One final consideration is that the reason a recruiter/adcoms person will be interested in what leadership you have done in the past is because that is the best guide they have to how you will do as a leader in the future. If you can show that what you have already done gives you the grounding and interest to develop as a leader, and you can add to that a plausible description of the ways in which you will be looking to develop your leadership skills in training and then as a doctor, you should be OK.

Now, about those stats....
 
Dang you have some crazy stats! Great job=] I would add some safe backups to the list though=]
 
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