Another PAT Question (Cubes)

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I know there has been talk on this board about how CDP sometimes has illusions in some of their cube forms. But I was looking at the assumptions in Barron's about cubes and they are: 1) Any cube above the first level must be supported by underlying cubes. and 2) An empty ceiling (top level) implies an empty column if the column is completely out of view.

So, I was confused with this set up in CDP test 3 because it seems that some cubes are floating (violates assumption 1). According to the assumptions, this can't be possible right? What is the total amount of cubes that you see here? The cube formations that CDP has is really irritating me!
 

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They aren't floating! It's an illusion, look at it again.
The cube closest to you (on the top) is only touching the one below it.
 
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GiTsticker said:
They aren't floating! It's an illusion, look at it again.
The cube closest to you (on the top) is only touching the one below it.
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No Way!!! If that is how it is intended then that is a huge illusion! That is not even fair. So if what you are saying is correct (poorly drawn IMO), there should be 12 cubes right? Please tell me the real DAT is more straight forward with no illusions or tricks.
 
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Ya, 12 blocks haha. It's better to first consult the rules, then look for illusions for CDP. On the real test you don't have to worry about it at all. No tricks, no illusions, pure ease.
 
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doc1986 said:
No Way!!! If that is how it is intended then that is a huge illusion! That is not even fair. So if what you are saying is correct (poorly drawn IMO), there should be 12 cubes right? Please tell me the real DAT is more straight forward with no illusions or tricks.
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where do you see 12 cubes? i only see 10?!?
 
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I only see 10 as well..
Since you can't see whats behind..

And no cube is on top of it.
So we assume that there is no cubes right?
 
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i actually got confused by this until i looked at it for a while. the front row has 3 cubes in the column. the back row has 9 cubes with 2 cubes being completely covered by the front column
 
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No...if you can't see it and there is no cube on top of it..
then its not there..never assume~

at least that's my understanding.
what do other people think?

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you have to assume theres cubes or else it would be disconnected.
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I looked at this closely and I only see 10. Their are 10 cubes that you can SEE. On the right side of the second level - We can only assume their is one cube there. Are their structures like this on the actual DAT?? How does this structure stand upright?
 
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aZenki said:
No...if you can't see it and there is no cube on top of it..
then its not there..never assume~

at least that's my understanding.
what do other people think?
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that's my understanding too...to never assume. but in this case i THINK there has to be 1 cube (not 2 as i said before) hidden or else it would be 2 separate sets of cubes.

also from what i've heard from other people's comments, they say that the real dat doesn't trick you with these illusions.
 
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Is this how the figure looks on the test...or is this another image of the cubes at a different angle?

From my understanding the only hidden cubes you can account for are ones that support other cubes. In this instance the 2 hidden cubes are not necessary to support the rest of the structure. CDP is on crack
 
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I thought they cant be floating? dont the two cubes on the bottom that you see make the whole second level float? and why would not assuming th two cubes in the back make it disconnected? This is really confusing...haha
 
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I think this is the only way it could work. The same color means same level.
There will be two cubes behind the front post that are not visible for everything to be connected.
 

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ahahah nooo way. I see it now. yeah theres 12.....but my brain hurts now. i hope nothing like that actually shows up on my test next week.
 
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Here's how I see it. The actual answer is 12 boxes, right? Diagrams like these are so weird...
 

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This is what I see, could someone tell me what I'm not seeing correctly? These are the 10 cubes that I see.

patcubes.png
 
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Hey Chrono, I used to see it as 10 cubes just like you did and I couldn't figure out how it can possibly be 12 cubes total and it really got me annoyed. But you dont need to worry about these kinds of Q's, I heard there's no illusions given on the actual DAT.

Anyways, take a look at the pic I attached. The front row on the far right is standing by itself and #6 and #11 is hidden behind.

Hope it helps! 😍
 

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