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kaudung said:
So how have things panned out? Are you reapplying next year? Did you withdraw?
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I have not withdrawn. I will most likely actually be attending Temple unless I get off a WL at a couple other schools. The more I thought about it the more I came to realize I don't want to be doing this process ever again. Period. I would go to Hogwarts Medical School before I would reapply.
 
gsmithers68 said:
I have not withdrawn. I will most likely actually be attending Temple unless I get off a WL at a couple other schools. The more I thought about it the more I came to realize I don't want to be doing this process ever again. Period. I would go to Hogwarts Medical School before I would reapply.
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Good choice. Temple's a ghetto, sure, just don't go out at night 🙂. Plus it's one of the better schools, pretty selective and not really a valid safety school.

I didn't apply there due to the exact same problems you found out at the interview. I researched out each school and asked a bunch of people before finalizing my list. Temple was on it in June, out of it in July.
 
you should have seen broad st a few years ago! It's definitly gotten better although a few blocks in either direction are questionable, and with the new building (albeit in progress) the area will change...I just don't know how much of it you will be able to enjoy. If you don't mind driving every morning you can live about 20 -30 mins north right up 611 (broad st in phila, but once you cross over cheltenham ave it becomes old your rd). Cities like Elkins Park, Melrose Park, Jenkintown, Wyncote are not bad (some VERY nice) and the commute isn't too bad in the morning. I don't know how many apartments there are in those areas, mostly SFH, but it's worth it if you are that concerned about the area. In the other direction is center city, SUPER price but a lot better diggs....I would say keep in mind that dental, med, and law students are there every day, (and every year when the area was MUCH worse), so it can be done. Just be mindfull not to walk around broad and diamond, broad and erie, at dark by yourself 😉 (well broad and anything kinda, and even then a large group may not be enough). Just use common sence...and BTW the people who live in the area are also the one's who need the medical assitance more than most!
 
Why would you apply there? I would gladly take your spot at your "nightmare" US Allopathic medical college... and I'm sure that the thousand other people that applied for a spot at the nightmare med school also would.
 
badasshairday said:
Why would you apply there? I would gladly take your spot at your "nightmare" US Allopathic medical college... and I'm sure that the thousand other people that applied for a spot at the nightmare med school also would.
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Ok, note the date of the original post of this thread. Then note today. Then look over the 100 other posts before you.

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A.

I know someone who was accepted to a low ranked school, declined, did a Post-Bacc program, retook the MCATs, reapplied, and got into a better school. However, had his MCAT been 1 point lower, he probably would not have gotten in, and so that was a major gamble.
 
The ghetto will be alright.

LSU has a one-touch call button that they've been giving out to students... see if temple has one like that. Then, consider a handgun. If you can see yourself safely, responsibly, and legally owning one, then I encourage you to do so... makes everyone around you safer. If not, then don't bother, might end up hurting yourself. When my girlfriend gets into dental (whenever that may be) and has to go to New Orleans, you can bet she'll be getting a .38spl snubby.

But that's a whole 'nother topic.

There are plenty of people who'd sell their souls to take your spot. Let's be sure that they don't try to 🙂. Besides, you never know what'll come at you at the last minute.
 
Alright everyone. This is my last post on this thread and also my last thoughts on this situation. I am pretty sure I am attending Temple next year but I am curious what other people think would happen if I were to reapply... mainly because I think my ECs will be much better if I were to apply again. I mean I am just throwing this out here because I am curious to see if anyone thinks this is enough improvement to my application to maybe get a better result (i.e. a tier one school and/or some fin aid) if I were to reapply:

1. I will be first author on a journal article in Development
2. I will have defended my thesis (and passed with distinction)
3. Awarded Phi Beta Kappa and the Paul Olum Award (top 100 grads from my college every year)
4. I will have been executive director of a Rotary affiliated club for a year
5. I will have done another year of research
6. I will have my B.S.
7. I will have another year of clinical volunteer experience

My GPA would still be 3.75 and my MCAT 33P.

Anyone think this may be enough to get a better result? Or maybe if I thought more about the MD/PhD pathway be able to reapply again with a better outcome?

Oh and just so everyone knows... my goal is to go into academic medicine... teaching, etc. Therefore, I kind of want to get trained by the best so I can teach the best... I am sure everyone knows about this pedigree cycle 🙂
 
I have another scenario. What if I got accepted to one MD school albeit expensive but I want to defer and take a masters program to prepare for it so I can get a really good residency and come out on top? I could use the year of the Masters to reapply to another MD school that is cheaper right? and even if I do not get into that cheaper school I will have the one that I got into right? Is this rational thought?
 
This thread is 10 years old. Why don't you start your own, current thread? Anyway, if a school lets you defer they might put restrictions on it-like not reapplying. Not sure but you have lots to check out and it's really dumb to reapply with an MD acceptance. What makes you think you'd be accepted this year over last?


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redgstring said:
I have another scenario. What if I got accepted to one MD school albeit expensive but I want to defer and take a masters program to prepare for it so I can get a really good residency and come out on top? I could use the year of the Masters to reapply to another MD school that is cheaper right? and even if I do not get into that cheaper school I will have the one that I got into right? Is this rational thought?
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Gosh, what an awesome necrobump!

I don't think there's anything about a masters program that prepares you for medical school, seeing as everyone entering starts on the same level playing field, but I could be wrong.

Deferment programs vary from school to school, and I don't know that getting an MPH qualifies as a valid reason to defer for every school. Some schools also allow you to get your MPH for free at their home institutions program so that's also another consideration.

Finally, the faster you attend med school, I would assume, the faster you would start to make a physician's salary. So you either wait a year to save x dollars for school B when you reapply and hopefully get in again, or just go into school A this year and make 150,000+ after residency one year sooner.
 
redgstring said:
I have another scenario. What if I got accepted to one MD school albeit expensive but I want to defer and take a masters program to prepare for it so I can get a really good residency and come out on top? I could use the year of the Masters to reapply to another MD school that is cheaper right? and even if I do not get into that cheaper school I will have the one that I got into right? Is this rational thought?
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1. The masters will do absolutely nothing for you in terms of preparing you for residency or medical school. Whatever it does will be minuscule compared to what happens in medical school.
2. Masters tend to cost money. Going into more debt is not how you avoid debt.

Most importantly,
3. You cannot reapply while holding a deferred acceptance from another school.
4. If you reapply after declining an acceptance you will most likely be blackballed at the vast majority of programs especially if you do it for no other reason than to get into a cheaper school.
5. Whatever the school costs, you will be able to pay off the debt as an MD. Sure, less debt is good but seeing as you only have one acceptance one would assume that your desire to become a physician is greater than your desire to shoot yourself in the foot for no reason and never have a medical career because you wanted to save 100k.
6. Every year you defer from medical school is a year lost of attending salary in your lifetime which is anywhere from 100k to 600k.
 
For those reading this thread I want to highlight how important it is to be honest with yourself and to only apply when you are ready to have the best application possible.

So many people every year come on SDN wanting to "do it over" to try for a more prestigious school, a cheaper school, a school in a nicer location, etc. The reality is that you should not apply to schools you are not prepared to attend. If you interview at a school and absolutely hate everything about it then withdraw immediately, don't wait until you are holding only an acceptance from that school. If you read this and think "Well, I don't want to attend any school outside of the top 20...." then you need to get real and get a grip. There are people who have the luxury of being that selective in where they apply or attend. If you are foolish enough to think this from the beginning, chances are that you are not one of them.

Second is only applying when you can put your best foot forward. Do not let the pressure from your parents / friends / pet cat / voices in your head / your church / TV commercials convince you to apply before you feel you are ready. If there is something you want to do before medical school that you won't have the opportunity to do during or after then go do it. Medical school will be right here, waiting.
 
sullen-burger said:
Gosh, what an awesome necrobump!

I don't think there's anything about a masters program that prepares you for medical school, seeing as everyone entering starts on the same level playing field, but I could be wrong.

Deferment programs vary from school to school, and I don't know that getting an MPH qualifies as a valid reason to defer for every school. Some schools also allow you to get your MPH for free at their home institutions program so that's also another consideration.

Finally, the faster you attend med school, I would assume, the faster you would start to make a physician's salary. So you either wait a year to save x dollars for school B when you reapply and hopefully get in again, or just go into school A this year and make 150,000+ after residency one year sooner.
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For those who have said that a Masters does nothing to prepare you for medical school, I beg to differ. First, a masters is basically the first year of medical school + some of the second year (if you take electives in pathology, pharmacology, pathophysiology, etc.) Second, I have had friends who in are in medical school and would tell me that the people who get the highest test scores/top in their class on inclass exams, have had earlier exposure to these clinical sciences. Maybe it is true that the masters does not prepare you for third or fourth year, but atleast first year. Learning medicine is crucial to me and I do not want to barely pass my classes and attain rudimentary knowledge.
 
To add to my prospectus of wanting to apply to a masters. Let me clarify, this is a masters of biomedical sciences and not just any masters that has nothing to do with medical sciences. Biomedical Masters would teach courses like biochem, anatomy, physiology, neuroscience, pathophysio, pharma, etc. These are basically medical school classes
 
redgstring said:
To add to my prospectus of wanting to apply to a masters. Let me clarify, this is a masters of biomedical sciences and not just any masters that has nothing to do with medical sciences. Biomedical Masters would teach courses like biochem, anatomy, physiology, neuroscience, pathophysio, pharma, etc. These are basically medical school classes
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Stop.
 
Lucca said:
For those reading this thread I want to highlight how important it is to be honest with yourself and to only apply when you are ready to have the best application possible.

So many people every year come on SDN wanting to "do it over" to try for a more prestigious school, a cheaper school, a school in a nicer location, etc. The reality is that you should not apply to schools you are not prepared to attend. If you interview at a school and absolutely hate everything about it then withdraw immediately, don't wait until you are holding only an acceptance from that school. If you read this and think "Well, I don't want to attend any school outside of the top 20...." then you need to get real and get a grip. There are people who have the luxury of being that selective in where they apply or attend. If you are foolish enough to think this from the beginning, chances are that you are not one of them.

Second is only applying when you can put your best foot forward. Do not let the pressure from your parents / friends / pet cat / voices in your head / your church / TV commercials convince you to apply before you feel you are ready. If there is something you want to do before medical school that you won't have the opportunity to do during or after then go do it. Medical school will be right here, waiting.
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Yes this is key, especially highlighted by @LizzyM @Goro @gonnif . Only apply to schools you will attend as if that were your only acceptance! This ensures you will take the schools you applied to seriously, and will thus treat your secondaries and interviews seriously as well. Having a smart and effective school list is absolutely crucial.

Interview can be a subjective factor but if something goes very wrong in the interview that you start hating that school with a passion, immediately withdraw. Don't wait until you get the outcome from the school. Withdraw.
 
redgstring said:
To add to my prospectus of wanting to apply to a masters. Let me clarify, this is a masters of biomedical sciences and not just any masters that has nothing to do with medical sciences. Biomedical Masters would teach courses like biochem, anatomy, physiology, neuroscience, pathophysio, pharma, etc. These are basically medical school classes
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Must be a troll

Nobody in the right mind obtains an MD acceptance, and ditches it for a masters under any circumstances

Imagine putting yourself through another reapplication cycle and losing a year of attending income...
 
True, but our own MS students are in greater danger of burnout by 2nd year, because they've "been in" med school for three years, not two, and two years alone is stressful enough by MS2/OMS2.


redgstring said:
For those who have said that a Masters does nothing to prepare you for medical school, I beg to differ. First, a masters is basically the first year of medical school + some of the second year (if you take electives in pathology, pharmacology, pathophysiology, etc.) Second, I have had friends who in are in medical school and would tell me that the people who get the highest test scores/top in their class on inclass exams, have had earlier exposure to these clinical sciences. Maybe it is true that the masters does not prepare you for third or fourth year, but atleast first year. Learning medicine is crucial to me and I do not want to barely pass my classes and attain rudimentary knowledge.
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It is astounding how twisted your logic here is.

Every MD or DO school in the country is going to prepare you to become a doctor. PERIOD. There is no scenario in which a medical school is going to only help you "attain rudimentary knowledge."

Stop messing around. MD/DO are professional schools. They prepare you for jobs. If you get accepted and are on track for a job, only to defer to try to get a better path, you won't make it. I sincerely hope that for your best interest you do not go this route. You made a mistake and applied to a school you don't like. You are too good for this school, well whoop-tee-woo - deal with it.

If you are going to go through with your plans anyway, please at least come back on this site a few years down the road and let us know how it went.

redgstring said:
For those who have said that a Masters does nothing to prepare you for medical school, I beg to differ. First, a masters is basically the first year of medical school + some of the second year (if you take electives in pathology, pharmacology, pathophysiology, etc.) Second, I have had friends who in are in medical school and would tell me that the people who get the highest test scores/top in their class on inclass exams, have had earlier exposure to these clinical sciences. Maybe it is true that the masters does not prepare you for third or fourth year, but atleast first year. Learning medicine is crucial to me and I do not want to barely pass my classes and attain rudimentary knowledge.
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redgstring said:
To add to my prospectus of wanting to apply to a masters. Let me clarify, this is a masters of biomedical sciences and not just any masters that has nothing to do with medical sciences. Biomedical Masters would teach courses like biochem, anatomy, physiology, neuroscience, pathophysio, pharma, etc. These are basically medical school classes
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redgstring said:
I have another scenario. What if I got accepted to one MD school albeit expensive but I want to defer and take a masters program to prepare for it so I can get a really good residency and come out on top? I could use the year of the Masters to reapply to another MD school that is cheaper right? and even if I do not get into that cheaper school I will have the one that I got into right? Is this rational thought?
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redgstring said:
I have another scenario. What if I got accepted to one MD school albeit expensive but I want to defer and take a masters program to prepare for it so I can get a really good residency and come out on top? I could use the year of the Masters to reapply to another MD school that is cheaper right? and even if I do not get into that cheaper school I will have the one that I got into right? Is this rational thought?
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I think that as long as you've been a diligent student throughout your academic career, you'll do just fine in medical school. You shouldn't have to do a biomedical masters beforehand to make medical school a breeze; perhaps it might help, but we need to be timely and graduate at the quickest pace possible.

If the goal is to add a masters onto your resume, I suggest doing a concurrent dual degree, like a MD/MPH, MD/MS, DO/MPH, DO/MS. You can begin the summer after M2.

Preclinical grades don't matter much to PDs unless you fail. Again, understanding M1M2 material through a masters then chill out when you get to medical school doesn't sound like an efficient use of time...

That's to assume you get into medical school after finishing the masters.
 
Dr. Kid said:
Must be a troll

Nobody in the right mind obtains an MD acceptance, and ditches it for a masters under any circumstances

Imagine putting yourself through another reapplication cycle and losing a year of attending income...
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This is not a troll. MD is a big commitment. Also, some people really want top residencies, which one must perform really well to even get. A Masters is not a bad idea.
 
redgstring said:
This is not a troll. MD is a big commitment. Also, some people really want top residencies, which one must perform really well to even get. A Masters is not a bad idea.
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This is a non-sequitur.

A much better way to maximize your chances of getting into a "top residency" is to not throw away a medical school acceptance.
 
Lucca said:
This is a non-sequitur.

A much better way to maximize your chances of getting into a "top residency" is to not throw away a medical school acceptance.
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How is deferral "throwing away acceptance" when you still have that spot?
 
redgstring said:
How is deferral "throwing away acceptance" when you still have that spot?
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I thought you were referring to deferring to re-apply. My mistake. However, I stand by the other part of my statement: a masters does not necessarily add anything to a residency application. Depends on the masters. Depends on what it produces. Depends on where you do it and who you do it with, etc.
 
Lucca said:
This is a non-sequitur.

A much better way to maximize your chances of getting into a "top residency" is to not throw away a medical school acceptance.
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Hey dad #2

redgstring said:
This is not a troll. MD is a big commitment. Also, some people really want top residencies, which one must perform really well to even get. A Masters is not a bad idea.
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I'll be doing the DO/MPH interprofessional program the summer after M2. Should be very doable! You get time off your clerkship and clinicals to work on the MPH coursework. Also, some of the DO coursework credits will go towards the MPH, effectively giving you enough time to do both clerkship and perform well in the concurrent masters.

This should be the case with MD/MPH MD/MS

Definitely take the MD acceptance this year.
 
Lucca said:
I thought you were referring to deferring to re-apply. My mistake. However, I stand by the other part of my statement: a masters does not necessarily add anything to a residency application. Depends on the masters. Depends on what it produces. Depends on where you do it and who you do it with, etc.
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what if the masters is biomedical? In which you are taking a replica of M1 courses, in a nutshell? biochem, anatomy, pathophysio, pharma, physio
 
redgstring said:
what if the masters is biomedical? In which you are taking a replica of M1 courses, in a nutshell? biochem, anatomy, pathophysio, pharma, physio
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I think doing a masters to basically do MS1 coursework 1 year before MS1 is a massive waste of time and money. Also it sounds absolutely miserable. The only useful masters program I could see would be one where there is little to no coursework and you are expected to produce a research product in a field you would like to continue working in during medical school (and perhaps afterwards). Further, there are ways at many medical schools to do precisely that for free as a part of the curriculum or through a tuition-free/reduced 5th year.
 
redgstring said:
what if the masters is biomedical? In which you are taking a replica of M1 courses, in a nutshell? biochem, anatomy, pathophysio, pharma, physio
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If somehow I obligated myself to obtain a masters before medical school, I would go for a MPH, MHA, or MBA.
 
I just want to follow up my learned colleague's wise words with the mention that I find it appalling that people who usually spend hundreds of hours doing scientific research simply can't be bothered to even go to med schools' website and poke around to see what the school wants in its applicants, but instead only use MSAR to see what are the minimum GPAs (and don't even look at the acceptance information pages).

It's amazing how many clueless non-African-American kids make posts in WAMC with the HBCs on there lists, or Californians who want to apply to U KS, U MS, U MO, ORHS etc.


gonnif said:
Nope, its real. It happens every cycle.

Perhaps they apply to a broad array of schools without really investigating them or just because they are desperate to get in anywhere. Then they go to the interview and dont really like it but let it ride out to see what happens instead of withdrawing their application before a decision. Perhaps they really wanted to go to a top school but didnt think they would make it. But they get accepted to several good ones and now believe that if they try again they can get into a BMS (Best Medical School). They hear implausible rumours of someone turning down multiple acceptance then getting into that mythical top school next cycle

So they want to turn down their acceptances and try again, knowing this time that they can do better. Yet applicants do not understand why this tantalizing idea of dropping an acceptance and reapplying is almost bound to fail.

First of all, all acceptances are reported to all schools each year. Since this information is tracked by AMCAS ID, the same way that all admissions software tracks you at all schools, you are tagged with having been accepted previously. Second, adcoms want to lnow that you are dedicated and committed to the long training and profession of medicine. Turning down an acceptance is a big red flag making them wonder what is your motivation here? You want a bigger name? are you after the prestige? are you just trying to prove something? why would go thru all the work to apply and turn down acceptances? why did you apply in the first place? With at least 80% of applicants at any individual school being rejected prior to interviews, why should we take the time and effort to look at you?

as I have said many times, applying to medical school and turning down an acceptance is the worst mistake a premed can possibly make
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gonnif said:
1) About 12% of medical students take a 5 years to graduate. Fully half of those are students doing research or other projects that are likely done to get into top residencies.
2) most schools do not normally allow students to take deferrals for education goals
3) most schools deferment agreements specifically forbid applying to another medical school while deferred. When you defer, you submit an AMCAS the next cycle listing deferred as status.
4) Its not rational thought, it is trying to game a system that is pretty rock solid
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Wait, I thought you could defer if you were missing a pre req ( like, planned on taking it senior year/summer after but it didnt happen)
 
Goro said:
I just want to follow up my learned colleague's wise words with the mention that I find it appalling that people who usually spend hundreds of hours doing scientific research simply can't be bothered to even go to med schools' website and poke around to see what the school wants in its applicants, but instead only use MSAR to see what are the minimum GPAs (and don't even look at the acceptance information pages). It's amazing how many clueless non-African-American kids make posts in WAMC with the HBCs on there lists, or Californians who want to apply to U KS, U MS, U MO, ORHS etc.
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People who are strong on paper with good base stats are naturally optimistic about their future. In the case that there are schools with a particular mission that will restrict their ability to get in, they understand that they won't likely have a shot at an acceptance but figure that they have a chance to win big for the sake of losing a nominal fee, some sweat, and time. In the case of Californians, they understand the difficulty in attending a Californian school and divest time applying outside of state in hopes of getting a return on their four years of education. University students aren't being brash when they float their application anywhere and everywhere, they are simply giving every opportunity a shot because they have low expectations that anyone will actually give them a single shot.
 
mwsapphire said:
Wait, I thought you could defer if you were missing a pre req ( like, planned on taking it senior year/summer after but it didnt happen)
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I don't think that's a thing. Deferrals are for health, family reasons, special fellowships, etc
 
mwsapphire said:
Wait, I thought you could defer if you were missing a pre req ( like, planned on taking it senior year/summer after but it didnt happen)
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Nope, they either say don't worry about it, or say why the he** didn't you take it? And rescind acceptance, letting someone in off the waitlist who can read/follow instructions.
 
redgstring said:
This is not a troll. MD is a big commitment. Also, some people really want top residencies, which one must perform really well to even get. A Masters is not a bad idea.
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A far better idea is to just work hard to do decently during first 2 years and spend a year doing research in that field during med school. If you take the research year between 2nd and 3rd year you can even postpone Step 1 and give yourself extra study time so you can kill it. Most residency programs won't care about your pre-clinical grades, and the few fields that do just want to see you in top quarter(ish). Hit a 250 Step 1 and no one will care at all about pre-clinicals at all.
 
redgstring said:
what if the masters is biomedical? In which you are taking a replica of M1 courses, in a nutshell? biochem, anatomy, pathophysio, pharma, physio
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What exactly makes you think that doing a Masters in the same subject of the pre-clinical years will help you secure a better residency? Your pre-clinical grades barely even matter for residency.
 
It's one thing to be optimistic, it's totally another to be completely clueless.


Sardinia said:
People who are strong on paper with good base stats are naturally optimistic about their future. In the case that there are schools with a particular mission that will restrict their ability to get in, they understand that they won't likely have a shot at an acceptance but figure that they have a chance to win big for the sake of losing a nominal fee, some sweat, and time. In the case of Californians, they understand the difficulty in attending a Californian school and divest time applying outside of state in hopes of getting a return on their four years of education. University students aren't being brash when they float their application anywhere and everywhere, they are simply giving every opportunity a shot because they have low expectations that anyone will actually give them a single shot.
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In what factor? Overall I dont see preclinical grades even being mentioned.
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Yea no they're not mentioned other than class rank. In future I need to use emojis or something to indicate sarcasm.
 
^ You end your most uncomfortable posts with "haha"
 
Stagg737 said:
A far better idea is to just work hard to do decently during first 2 years and spend a year doing research in that field during med school. If you take the research year between 2nd and 3rd year you can even postpone Step 1 and give yourself extra study time so you can kill it. Most residency programs won't care about your pre-clinical grades, and the few fields that do just want to see you in top quarter(ish). Hit a 250 Step 1 and no one will care at all about pre-clinicals at all.
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Is this common for medical schools to allow this research year break? If so, would you still have to pay medical school tuiton if you arent really doing clinicals or M1 or M2?
 
redgstring said:
Is this common for medical schools to allow this research year break? If so, would you still have to pay medical school tuiton if you arent really doing clinicals or M1 or M2?
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I've never heard of a school not allowing a student to take a research year. Maybe if the student was in poor academic standing they wouldn't allow it, but I'd think most schools would actually encourage that, idk though.

As far as tuition I'm not really sure, but I'd guess it would vary from school to school. I know my school offers an anatomy fellowship that's basically a research year where you also help teach anatomy lab. It comes with a 25k stipend for the year and the school pays for 3rd and 4th year tuition. Pretty much every fellow gets at least 1 publication out of the year, and some I've talked to pulled 5 or 6.
 
sullen-burger said:
Edited* He has strong anecdotal evidence from some friends already in medical school. The argument rests on quite solid ground. /sarcasm


But seriously, 2016 NRMP survey: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/NRMP-2016-Program-Director-Survey.pdf
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It is common sense. Exposure to the sciences before school will help obtain better grades and even if it is pass/fail, it will help solidify knowledge for step 1 when reviewing the information in the preclinical years. Having a better step 1 will help in obtaining a a good residency.
 
gonnif said:
Usually, they get supported via research grants of some kind. Schools will almost always help you find a way to get support. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500-2000 students do this a year. This does not include students who do summer projects or take other similar things.
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I know there are plenty of grants available, I just didn't/don't know how common it is to get help with finding grants or funding in general from schools. I'm sure plenty of the more research centered schools have X amount of dollars set aside to fund their student's projects, I just don't know much about this because I attend a DO school which puts relatively little weight on student research.
 
redgstring said:
It is common sense. Exposure to the sciences before school will help obtain better grades and even if it is pass/fail, it will help solidify knowledge for step 1 when reviewing the information in the preclinical years. Having a better step 1 will help in obtaining a a good residency.
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Is it common sense?

What do you mean by "exposure"? How do you define "the sciences"? Pre-med requirements are also the sciences. To what degree do I need to be exposed to neuroscience before I can understand my neuro module? Is BS enough? MA? PhD? And how do these extra degrees help obtain and solidify my knowledge of cepts and concepts in a program that prepares everyone equally? And finally, is step preparation the same for everyone?

That's a lot of variables to control for. Id like to see more complete and consistent data before accepting generalized conjecture, please.

It's just common sense.
 
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