Rotations at private clinics

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Hi there,
do you know if there is such a thing as making rotations at private clinics. I mean regular rotations at small private clinics where patients/clients are paying for all services from their own pockets. Have you ever had rotation at private clinic or heard that someone had?
 
docB said:
When I did IM (Temple, Class of '00) i spent 3 days a week in private clinics. My FP rotation was also at a private clinic.
How was it aranged? Cany you tell me please?
 
docB said:
Oh ----! I thought this was a serious question. Thanks for the tip off.
Don't listen to GandMasterB.
 
Nick99 said:
It all happened in private clinic. The surgeon is otolaringology specialist and he performed nose cosmetic surgery. The patient paid expensive surgery as cosmetic surgeries are not covered, of course. Surgeron brought someone and let do part of the surgery without patient's consent. Patient had very serious complications after and needed two more surgeries to fix the problem. The surgeon claimed that it was resident. Name of that resident was not written down in patient's chart or anywhere else, so it officially looks like that person ( called resident ) was not present at the clinic at all. Surgeon did not want to tell patient who was it and after patient's long time insisting he gave name of the resident. After another long time patient discovered that that resident whose name was given actually was not the one who was present at the clinic that day. As being pressured that resident ( whose name was given ) admitted that he was not there at all on the day of the surgery. The surgeon still does not want to reveal the name of the person who was there and did part of the surgery. Just another point that there is no any cooperation between that private clinic and any medical teaching insitution, at least not official.
Can you please coment this case? What do you think what kind of consequencies that surgent can experience if everyhting proved? What about that resident who accepted to play role like he was there to cover up for someone whose identity is still secret? Does surgeon have to tell who really was there?
And most importantly what do you think how much patient can get in court. It all happened in Canada.
Based on your other posts it sounds like you are trying to get info about who might have been working in the ENT office mentioned above. I initially thought you were seeking info out of an interest in doing rotations in a private clinic. That can't be the case as you have stated that you have already done a residency:
Nick99 said:
Hi folks,
do you know where records about rotations are being kept? Where all the records go? I mean where I can possibly try to get records about my all rotations during residency? What kind of records it's possible to get: where the rotations was, time ( period of time ) and date of the rotations, name of the attending doctor...anything else???
Nick99 said:
Thank you. Sorry for confusion I meant my own records, of course. Do you know for how long those records are being kept. Is it possible to get it after few years? And again what kind of information these records contain: time, date of rotation, place etc, what exactly, I might need it for court.
Thank you
I doubt that you are a doctor. I think it's very likely that you are the patient mentioned in the case presented and are trying to get input about pending litigation.
 
docB said:
Based on your other posts it sounds like you are trying to get info about who might have been working in the ENT office mentioned above. I initially thought you were seeking info out of an interest in doing rotations in a private clinic. That can't be the case as you have stated that you have already done a residency:


I doubt that you are a doctor. I think it's very likely that you are the patient mentioned in the case presented and are trying to get input about pending litigation.
Actually, I am the resident who really was there and made a mass. Now my residency is in jeopardy. Resident whose name was given was cover up. He was in the game as he did finish his residency at the time he agreed to cover up. But now he went out of the game. Is it clear now?
 
Nick99 said:
Actually, I am the resident who really was there and made a mass. Now my residency is in jeopardy. Resident whose name was given was cover up. He was in the game as he did finish his residency at the time he agreed to cover up. But now he went out of the game. Is it clear now?

Made a mass? The game? Where are you from?
 
Nick99 said:
Actually, I am the resident who really was there and made a mass. Now my residency is in jeopardy. Resident whose name was given was cover up. He was in the game as he did finish his residency at the time he agreed to cover up. But now he went out of the game. Is it clear now?
So you're saying you are, in fact, Dr. Nick?
 
docB said:
So you're saying you are, in fact, Dr. Nick?
Yes, my friend. Do you have any further coment?
 
docB said:
Based on your other posts it sounds like you are trying to get info about who might have been working in the ENT office mentioned above. I initially thought you were seeking info out of an interest in doing rotations in a private clinic. That can't be the case as you have stated that you have already done a residency:


I doubt that you are a doctor. I think it's very likely that you are the patient mentioned in the case presented and are trying to get input about pending litigation.

I would tend to agree. This all seems very shady... For one thing, unless you're an IMG, your writing skills strongly argue against you being an MD.
 
sdnetrocks said:
I would tend to agree. This all seems very shady... For one thing, unless you're an IMG, your writing skills strongly argue against you being an MD.
Hi,
I am at my last 4th year of ENT residency. When that thing happened I was at my first year. Now, at almost the end of my residency my residency is in jeopardy. And it is serious. Attending surgeon invited me to his private clinic as he was a good friend of mu father. He let me do part of the surgery and it went wrong. I did not have any experience at the time. Now, patient sues the surgeon,the clinic and that guy - former resident who played cover up role. They didn't take it seriously at the time. But now it became really serious as the cover up is discovered. So they probably will tell that it was me as that guy already admitted that it was not him actually and that he was not there when that happened. We never had any rotation at any private clinic that's why there's no trace that I were there at all. Now I'm trying to get as much as info as possible about how it is when it is regualr thing.
Sorry for my writing, I type very fastly and don't check after, and I'm not IMG but I immigrated just before medical studies.
 
Nick99 said:
Hi,
I am at my last 4th year of ENT residency. When that thing happened I was at my first year. Now, at almost the end of my residency my residency is in jeopardy. And it is serious. Attending surgeon invited me to his private clinic as he was a good friend of mu father. He let me do part of the surgery and it went wrong. I did not have any experience at the time. Now, patient sues the surgeon,the clinic and that guy - former resident who played cover up role. They didn't take it seriously at the time. But now it became really serious as the cover up is discovered. So they probably will tell that it was me as that guy already admitted that it was not him actually and that he was not there when that happened. We never had any rotation at any private clinic that's why there's no trace that I were there at all. Now I'm trying to get as much as info as possible about how it is when it is regualr thing.
Sorry for my writing, I type very fastly and don't check after, and I'm not IMG but I immigrated just before medical studies.

Dr. Nick - I'm curious - could you describe what the operative mistake was? how you made it? how it was discovered? what was done in the 2 subsequent operations to repair it?
 
sdnetrocks said:
Dr. Nick - I'm curious - could you describe what the operative mistake was? how you made it? how it was discovered? what was done in the 2 subsequent operations to repair it?
Well, the whole thing - nose moved away to one side. it was complicated to fix it and it nedeed two surgeries after.
The thing is that it was without patient's consent who actually paid the operation, no one is mentioned in any paper just like no one was there except the surgeon and regular staff. And we don't do any rotation at private clinics at all. That hurts the case immensely. Not to mention that cover up thing. What do you think can happen to my residency now? Was it my fault or the surgeon's who let me do the surgery. It's so scary that I can lose everything now just because of it.
 
Any more feedbacks?
 
Hi folks,
Can you please tell me if you think that my residency is in jeopardy now? Attending surgeon is about to reveal that it was me who was involved in the surgery. I was moonlighting in private clinic and all that bad things happened after. I think it can not be proved that it was my mistake. So, do you think my situation is serios now?
Thank you guys
 
Its great to be gung ho resident wanting to learn skills, but its also a good resident who knows his limits and stops or gets help. You obviously stepped way over your head with that surgery. But whats done is done. I'm not sure I really want you practicing medicine. But sounds like you just need to "play dumb", say you thought it was ok, because of Senior doc approval, and let him hang. he deserves it for screwing the patient in the first place. You're in deep sh%%. But lawyers know lots of tricks...you take it from there. 👎
 
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