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Wanted to get some folks opinion of OU's program. Anyone that interviewed there this year want to spout up?
 
O.K. if you didn't interview there does anyone at least know someone who might have and what their opinion was?:horns:
 
Or if anyone interviewed there last year that would be nice too. Or is it possible noone has ever interviewed there? Or been there? Or heard of it?
 
i don't have much to say but wanted to say something to your hanging thread... i have heard that their intern year is amongst the most cushy in the country. i remember a post by someone who said they were pleasantly surprised by the anes program. as for location -- for me oklahoma sounds nice, but i bet there are many people who would disagree.
 
For what it's worth...I'm doing a prelim medicine year at OU, and am loving it about as much as one can love an intern year. OKC is not a bad place, with enough places to chill & hang out when not working. People are very friendly. Cost of living is dirt cheap.

I don't know any of the anesthesiology residents too well, but I did talk to a CA-2 a couple months ago and he really had good things to say about the program. The intern year is held at a local hospital and consists only of the anethesia interns. From what I've been told, its cush, but when you're on call, you're it! All the residents seem happy around the hospital. The facilities are decent.

Probably the biggest disappointment about being here is that the nurses aren't anything to write home about🙂 ...jk
 
The intern year is cushy, but the call is probably more stressful than most places. It's at a private hospital seperate from OU. You are IT for the whole hospital. No upper level residents to turn to. You run all the codes, put lines in, lots of intubations, and do all the admits for the hospitalist group (usually 5-10 admits a night). Call is about 5 times a month for 10 months out of the year. Generally you are up all night, like most other places...just the responsibility is greater. Other than the call, the hours are very nice and you have most weekends off. The nurses are also great and happy to help you out.
 
Jalopycat-

Sounds like you interviewed there. Did you get a chance to talk to any of the residents or interns to get their perspective on things?
 
My wife is an intern at the OU program. I am currently doing a year of research at the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation, an 8-5 job. My wife works fewer hours than I do almost every day (not counting call). The intern year, as alluded to, is unbelievably good. Very nice, medium-sized, private hospital. Great hours + great experience and procedures when you are on call. She takes an average of 4 calls per month (one of these is a weekend day). Years 2-4 are at the medical center, and the hours are more typical. From what I have heard, the upper-levels are pretty happy, too. One problem (for my wife, at least) is that there are not many females in the program (3 total, 2 interns and 1 CA-3). She gets along very well with her fellow residents, though. Oklahoma City is a really nice place to live (surprisingly). Lots to do and very little traffic. Low cost of living. Overall, my wife is loving it here.
 
It's a good program. 100% board pass rate last year. Internal moonlighting available. Residents are happy and get along. Cost of living as above. I'd say the worst thing about it is its location in the US.
 
Hey guys,
Most of the above is correct. Intern year was sweet, but it was challenging and I am very proud of what I learned during that time. Actually, there IS some backup at night---ER docs, if you need help with a difficult airway or more than one code is going at the same time. (Yes, more than one code at a time happened for me on multiple occasions)

There is a huge advantage to being 'it'. You don't get bumped for procedures, by more 'senior' residents. This happens every day now at my university setting-interns bump the students, upper levels bump the interns/midlevels etc.

Anyone should feel free to ask me anything either pm or even phone 405-921-5484.

Overall, good program-tremendous volume of cases and procedures, patients sick as crud, tons of lines, hearts, epidurals-you name it. The new internal moonlighting program is in it infancy but is incredibly sweet. We have a brand new resident lounge complete with new leather couches and chairs, a 42" (I think) plasma HD TV, xbox 360 (donated from recent alumni),DVD player, etc. and easy job placement. Myself and others are in the process of investigating fellowship positions.

100% most recent board pass rate is true. Expense account, complete anesthesiology set of books from the department, yearly paid review course/conference on the department.

Yes I am happy I am here.
 
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I would suspect that the FREIDA website isn't updated all that much.

Anyways, moonlighting has been allowed if you meet the academic criteria set by the PD Dr Fitch (>50th percentile on ITE).

Yes the pain program also is here, and they take one person per year.
 
I too am a resident at OU and I can say that I absolutely love it here. The intern year is cush. That is true. However, you're expected to do a lot more than your average intern. (codes, rapid evals, intubations, central lines etc.) But, it's you and the attending and the attendings are great. They are all private docs who teach you real world medicine. And the program itself has come a long way since Dr. Fitch took the helm. Tim is right. There is moonlighting and it seems to be going well. Currently there is a pain fellowship and obstetrics and CCU will be in the works soon. OKC is a great place to live. Housing is cheap and there's plenty of stuff to do around here. Trust me... you could do a lot worse!!!
 
I interviewed there and did rank the program. I thought Dr Fitch was a huge asset, as well as how awesome the intern year was and how happ (most) everyone I met was. It had its positives and negatives, and since I grew up in OKC, I knew what I was getting there. In the end, it was below #1 on my ROL, so we will never know if I would have liked it...
 
Not sure what exactly you're alluding too, or why you brought it up, but I can assure you there are plenty of OU grads in the program and plenty more who want to stay but there are not enough slots.

Not everyone wants to do residency where they went to med school. That doesn't make the program bad, it's just personal preference. People want different things. You'll understand that when you go through the match.
 
Well since i'm the most recently matched person at the above named program maybe I should shed a little light since you seem to be a litte misinformed.

First off, I know the people you're speaking about. They're great guys... and gals. And there were a myriad of reasons for going somewhere else. However, there were several (at least 3) that I know of for sure who didn't match at OU. And they really wanted it.

At our program students are granted interviews on the basis of board scores. D.O. or M.D. it just doesn't matter if you rock the boards. Once your here for an interview it's your personality that will make the decision for you. We had several very bright applicants that lacked in the personality department. These people will do great somewhere else. But they don't fit in with the personality that we as a group have at OU.

And there areas in our state are definitely underserved. There's a simple reason for that. Now may be the time to familiarize yourself with the " rural pass through " law. It suck and it needs to be fixed. Hope that helps out a little bit.
 
bionicokie said:
Well since i'm the most recently matched person at the above named program maybe I should shed a little light since you seem to be a litte misinformed.

First off, I know the people you're speaking about. They're great guys... and gals. And there were a myriad of reasons for going somewhere else. However, there were several (at least 3) that I know of for sure who didn't match at OU. And they really wanted it.

At our program students are granted interviews on the basis of board scores. D.O. or M.D. it just doesn't matter if you rock the boards. Once your here for an interview it's your personality that will make the decision for you. We had several very bright applicants that lacked in the personality department. These people will do great somewhere else. But they don't fit in with the personality that we as a group have at OU.

And there areas in our state are definitely underserved. There's a simple reason for that. Now may be the time to familiarize yourself with the " rural pass through " law. It suck and it needs to be fixed. Hope that helps out a little bit.
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how would you describe the personalities at OU? thanks
 
amyl said:
how would you describe the personalities at OU? thanks
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Probably average for your anesthesia types. Laid back folks mostly. Know how to work hard when needed but like to go out and have a good time. At least from the intern perspective we mess around and play jokes on each other all the time.
 
For either of you guys that did internship in OK, is the first year dually accredited? isn't OK one of the states that you have to have a DO intern year?
 
amyl said:
For either of you guys that did internship in OK, is the first year dually accredited? isn't OK one of the states that you have to have a DO intern year?
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We have a D.O. doing the year with us. The only difference is that he does OB for a month instead of a gen surg month. Perhaps TimTye can fill you in some more. Hope that answers your question.
 
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sorry for all the questions but I am trying to set up my elective rotations and am trying to decide where I will fit in the best. Do you know if they offer an anes-assoc. ICU month as an elective? on average how many weekends off a month would you say you guys have? thanks.
 
yes. the short of it is the osteopathic medical examiners oversee DO licensure in OK, hence they 'require' what happens to be a 'aoa' (american osteopathic assoc) approved intern year, which means you get to hold retractors two days a week for those nasty vaginal sling surgeries et versus an extra month of nephrology happiness (as an MD intern at baptist).and yes it counts as a 'dual-accredited' intern year.

Personality types apart from the un-jaded interns-who seem to be a great group of gals and guys-change a little from intern days at baptist-I've seen this from the current seniors who were interns when I interviewed, to my class and the CA1s. OU is your prototypical university medical center where you get dumped on by everyone else who is getting dumped on figuratively speaking.

The RNs who we deal with everyday are typically your older 'battle-axe" nurses who are tough as nails, and typically are constantly looking for some poor soul to blame (insert anesthesia resident here) when something goes wrong. The attendings DEFINITELY are NOT laid back for the vast majority-I feel like I have joined the marines, and have been sentenced to three years of bootcamp, hehe.

The residents tend to get more cynical and withdrawn as they see the light at the end of the tunnel. Honest. They want to work less, and they care less. This residency is not for someone who wants laid-back, relaxed training. It is sink or swim. It is become a shark, or get eaten by the sharks. There is a definite expectation passed down that the CA1 and CA2 are expected to 'take care' of things, and try to keep the upper levels out of the ORs at night on call.

My class has been told that we seem to be a little more resistant, and we ARE a laid-back group so far.

On a positive note, the program does have a fair number of 'gem' attendings, and some there have been some major improvements in overall morale since the internal moonlighting has begun, and since the creation of the new cush resident lounge.

(tim climbs down from the soapbox....crickets chirping...hello?? Anyone still awake?....) hehe
 
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