DONE! Destroyer, Kaplan, Achiever, Top Score

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Long post but worth reading!!!

This day cant get any worse ... I just got done writting a long post and it deleted itself as i pressed the delete button and the web page went back one. So let me appolagize now for any mispelled word or anything since I'm on the edge. Score:

PA 17
QR 17
RC 16
BIO 18
GChem 17
oChem20

AA18
TS18

When i see those scores compared to the studying i did it makes me want to throw up.

Bio: This section took me by surprise. A lot of questions that are off the wall. This is going to sound unbelivable but 80% of what is on the Kaplan blue book was no covered ... I kid you not. I wish i could tell you guys/girls in detail the amount of vital information that I was not asked. Shame. I would say about 4 question were close to identical to Destroyer but I have to say that its not someting you wont know from class material.

GChem: No math questions at all!!! Is that possible ... yes. Give me the da$%math questions and things would be a lot easier. Destroyer gen chem is a waste of time as far as math is concerned and let me tell you that the easy questions that are in the destroyer are not seen. Does not mean destroyer is not going to help but save yourself time and do all the calculation with a calculator and to become familiar with the formula and its concepts. Cant give much advice from Kaplan all i did was learn formulas& trends i read and it was ok fo the exam.

Organic: I like organic and received good grades for this class. I want to say that Destroyer is the best at the momen but a lot of it is not covered .. does not mean that it may show up on your exam. Too bad you cant just purchase that section alone. I think Kaplan is a wate of time if your good at organic ...doesnt teach much. The Road Maps Kick you know what(Destroyer)

PAT: One thing and one thing only Top Score but im not going to say dont get achiever because it does helps for other sections. The achiever PAT gave me a headache and the difficulty is beyond that of the real thing ... take that info as you wish.

RC: Really i dont know how to give advice on this other than dont just skip studing for it because it can hurt you. Yeah you might be able to read but this type of reading is on another level. Few tone questions, how the paragraph should be completed, and stuff like that.

QR: I hate math and studying it kills me. I did al of the math from all the regular study material (achiever, top score, etc). Lot of word problems too much for the time given. Work on word problems!!!!!

As far as the studying material that is out there it wont hurt to have the essentials: Achiever, Top Score, Destroyer, Kaplan. My score suck with the amount of studying i did and all the material i covered. ( No i didnt just memorize things and also didnt think that the destroyer is some "magic bullet") Keep this is in mind though the DAT has changed a lot from the example test you can view on ADA and the problem is that all the material out there is built for the old version. I had Nancy on the phone from Destroyer and she said that they have been working for 10 years on the book and thats the problem. The bulk of the questions are the ones that "were" asked at one time. A lot of those "you should know these" and "this a is a sure thing on the exam" from Destroyer is a joke (Hi Dr. Romano i hope your reading this) Also before i was to take the exam I was promised a call from Romano and as well as the updated quesions ... didnt receive either. The guy from Achiever is a joke as well .... has anyone talked to the man before? I tried to explain an error on the program and he sounded like a biology major drop out.

IF anyone wants to know i scored well on Top Score and Achiever and i knew kaplan and destroyer in and out. I dont know somehow i think i got shafted today. So much more to express but im beat and tired of thinking about the DAT but i will surely read the replies and answer any questions. Good Luck to you all. For the record I am not biased against any study material out there (its all usefull in a way) i just believe/hope that changes will be made accordingly to the study material that is out there
 
How did you prepare during your last two weeks? I am almost doing achiever and I feel like crap after taking these tests.... I wanna go back to just reading more notes and doing destroyer... what do you suggest??
 
I just took the dat yesterday. Those bio questions where off the hook, I didn't even recognized some of the terms used in the answer choices.

I was in shock about the GC, I had one math problem the rest were just conceptual questions. The PAT was way easier than last time (this is my second time taking it).

I very disappointed in my scores too.
 
Long post but worth reading!!!

This day cant get any worse ... I just got done writting a long post and it deleted itself as i pressed the delete button and the web page went back one. So let me appolagize now for any mispelled word or anything since I'm on the edge. Score:

PA 17
QR 17
RC 16
BIO 18
GChem 17
oChem20

AA18
TS18

When i see those scores compared to the studying i did it makes me want to throw up.

Bio: This section took me by surprise. A lot of questions that are off the wall. This is going to sound unbelivable but 80% of what is on the Kaplan blue book was no covered ... I kid you not. I wish i could tell you guys/girls in detail the amount of vital information that I was not asked. Shame. I would say about 4 question were close to identical to Destroyer but I have to say that its not someting you wont know from class material.

GChem: No math questions at all!!! Is that possible ... yes. Give me the da$%math questions and things would be a lot easier. Destroyer gen chem is a waste of time as far as math is concerned and let me tell you that the easy questions that are in the destroyer are not seen. Does not mean destroyer is not going to help but save yourself time and do all the calculation with a calculator and to become familiar with the formula and its concepts. Cant give much advice from Kaplan all i did was learn formulas& trends i read and it was ok fo the exam.

Organic: I like organic and received good grades for this class. I want to say that Destroyer is the best at the momen but a lot of it is not covered .. does not mean that it may show up on your exam. Too bad you cant just purchase that section alone. I think Kaplan is a wate of time if your good at organic ...doesnt teach much. The Road Maps Kick you know what(Destroyer)

PAT: One thing and one thing only Top Score but im not going to say dont get achiever because it does helps for other sections. The achiever PAT gave me a headache and the difficulty is beyond that of the real thing ... take that info as you wish.

RC: Really i dont know how to give advice on this other than dont just skip studing for it because it can hurt you. Yeah you might be able to read but this type of reading is on another level. Few tone questions, how the paragraph should be completed, and stuff like that.

QR: I hate math and studying it kills me. I did al of the math from all the regular study material (achiever, top score, etc). Lot of word problems too much for the time given. Work on word problems!!!!!

As far as the studying material that is out there it wont hurt to have the essentials: Achiever, Top Score, Destroyer, Kaplan. My score suck with the amount of studying i did and all the material i covered. ( No i didnt just memorize things and also didnt think that the destroyer is some "magic bullet") Keep this is in mind though the DAT has changed a lot from the example test you can view on ADA and the problem is that all the material out there is built for the old version. I had Nancy on the phone from Destroyer and she said that they have been working for 10 years on the book and thats the problem. The bulk of the questions are the ones that "were" asked at one time. A lot of those "you should know these" and "this a is a sure thing on the exam" from Destroyer is a joke (Hi Dr. Romano i hope your reading this) Also before i was to take the exam I was promised a call from Romano and as well as the updated quesions ... didnt receive either. The guy from Achiever is a joke as well .... has anyone talked to the man before? I tried to explain an error on the program and he sounded like a biology major drop out.

IF anyone wants to know i scored well on Top Score and Achiever and i knew kaplan and destroyer in and out. I dont know somehow i think i got shafted today. So much more to express but im beat and tired of thinking about the DAT but i will surely read the replies and answer any questions. Good Luck to you all. For the record I am not biased against any study material out there (its all usefull in a way) i just believe/hope that changes will be made accordingly to the study material that is out there

Congrats on being done. However, you sound kinda bitter...the achiever guy a bio major dropout? Come on, I have talked to the guy, he is really nice and very willing to help out. Those are very well thought out questions. Especially the bio and gchem. Furthermore, achiever is probably the hardest practice test you will find on the market. Those tests were very useful in simulating the computer environment and managing your time.

You said you studied a lot...you don't think it could have been nerves? I took the DAT on 5/29. Also, I have seen the sample ADA....to be honest...is the difficulty of the test that much different? I don't think so...especially for the gchem and ochem. I will agree and say that the bio is harder.

Of course, when you view those old DAT questions from the comfort of your home, they will seem easy. However...you can't underestimate the nerves associated w/ test day...I think nerves can make an easy problem seem really difficult.

Well, I disagree about the questions you didn't like in destroyer (you should know this ...that ...etc). I was smiling/chuckling to myself during the SNS b/c of destroyer.

I honestly can't see how much different the real DAT can be compared to Achiever and Destroyer. Especially for gchem and ochem. Both of those guides cover pretty much all you will need to know. No exact questions, but the concepts repeat over and over...variation after variation.

Well, I wish you the best and if you decide to retake, it wouldn't hurt to revisit achiever and destroyer. Maybe your initial approach was a bit flawed. You talk about understanding things...however, (it was said before)...studying only BEGINS when you start to understand something. That means fighting for that extra yardage...asking yourself what are all the possible variations of this question, how can I classify this type of problem, etc. Anyways, good luck and try to cheer up a bit!
 
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