SCPM's institutional Snapshot (2004-2006)

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This is a link to see the "average" MCAT, DAT, or GRE scores and matriculates into SCPM and also the other colleges of Rosalind Franklin University (Chicago Medical School, Applied Health Sciences, Graduate Sciences, etc). Please remember not all SCPM students took all three exams and some used just one of them. Also, not everyone had a BS/BA before matriculating.

It also provides demographic data for ppl and financial aid %.

Lastly, it provides BOARDS passage rates for part I and part II compared to nationwide passage rates. it's a little confusing when you look at the stats here because it reflects the students that took the exam that year, NOT the class.... well just try to figure it out 😛 [I'm the class of 2007 and I took part I (2004-2005) and part II (2006-2007)]

http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/administration/InstitutionalSnapshot101206.pdf

Sorry, no GPA is provided because the weights vary with each college.
 
I was surprised at the data for the 2006-2007 school year. The scholl students taking the exam that year had a 1st time pass rate of 89% on the part 1 boards. I may be wrong but I thought scholl scores better on the 1st time part 1 boards than this.
 
This is a link to see the "average" MCAT, DAT, or GRE scores and matriculates into SCPM and also the other colleges of Rosalind Franklin University (Chicago Medical School, Applied Health Sciences, Graduate Sciences, etc). Please remember not all SCPM students took all three exams and some used just one of them. Also, not everyone had a BS/BA before matriculating.

It also provides demographic data for ppl and financial aid %.

Lastly, it provides BOARDS passage rates for part I and part II compared to nationwide passage rates. it's a little confusing when you look at the stats here because it reflects the students that took the exam that year, NOT the class.... well just try to figure it out 😛 [I'm the class of 2007 and I took part I (2004-2005) and part II (2006-2007)]

http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/administration/InstitutionalSnapshot101206.pdf

Sorry, no GPA is provided because the weights vary with each college.


I am very impressed that Scholl has released this info to the public. This speaks volumes about the program IMO. It is a shame that not all programs are willing to do this. Kudos to SCPM.
 
I was surprised at the data for the 2006-2007 school year. The scholl students taking the exam that year had a 1st time pass rate of 89% on the part 1 boards. I may be wrong but I thought scholl scores better on the 1st time part 1 boards than this.


I was told that they had a 91%. Maybe I heard it wrong.
 
I was surprised at the data for the 2006-2007 school year. The scholl students taking the exam that year had a 1st time pass rate of 89% on the part 1 boards. I may be wrong but I thought scholl scores better on the 1st time part 1 boards than this.

This is still an impressive board pass rate in the fact that scholl has a large class size. If they had a smaller class size it might be easier to have a higher pass rate due to not having the students who didn't pass be there. I think it it is harder for a large class to have a higher pass rate than a smaller one due to the higher selectivity of students in a smaller class. Congrats to scholl.
 
My tour guides during my interview told me that there was a testing issue last year with the Part I test and that is why the rate was lower. Something about they thought they would be able to go back and change answers to questions but then couldn't.
 
This is still an impressive board pass rate in the fact that scholl has a large class size. If they had a smaller class size it might be easier to have a higher pass rate due to not having the students who didn't pass be there. I think it it is harder for a large class to have a higher pass rate than a smaller one due to the higher selectivity of students in a smaller class. Congrats to scholl.

Wouldn't it be the opposite? If you have a class of 100 people and 10 people fail, you still have a 90%. If you have a class size of 50 and 10 fail, your pass rate is down to 80%. In other words, larger classes have more room for error.

I agree that selectivity is the key.
 
My tour guides during my interview told me that there was a testing issue last year with the Part I test and that is why the rate was lower. Something about they thought they would be able to go back and change answers to questions but then couldn't.

i heard that too and talked to some SCPM kids about that. They got to retake it for free, but you can't change the percentage and you can't change the simple task of READING all instructions carefully! I'm from SCPM and i'm just disappointed with what happened.

As you can see, my year kicked ass compared to the rest of the nation.
 
Wouldn't it be the opposite? If you have a class of 100 people and 10 people fail, you still have a 90%. If you have a class size of 50 and 10 fail, your pass rate is down to 80%. In other words, larger classes have more room for error.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Jonwill about this.
 
Wouldn't it be the opposite? If you have a class of 100 people and 10 people fail, you still have a 90%. If you have a class size of 50 and 10 fail, your pass rate is down to 80%. In other words, larger classes have more room for error.

I agree that selectivity is the key.

Your analysis is right but as in many things, it matters how you analyze it. Yes smaller numbers make a bigger percentage difference but when the smaller numbers have better quality students, it's easier to have a higher pass rate because you should have less fail it. For example, (and this is hypothetical but the point is made) If you take a pool of 30 A students, 40 B students, and 30 C students at one school of 100, it is harder to get say 100% board pass rate because you have the less quality students in the mesh while if you eliminate all those C students and some of the B students by having a smaller class size of say 50, then it is easier to have a higher board pass rate. It is easier to be more selective with smaller class sizes and thus weed out the not so great students and then these won't contribute to your board pass rates but someone elses.
 
Your analysis is right but as in many things, it matters how you analyze it. Yes smaller numbers make a bigger percentage difference but when the smaller numbers have better quality students, it's easier to have a higher pass rate because you should have less fail it. For example, (and this is hypothetical but the point is made) If you take a pool of 30 A students, 40 B students, and 30 C students at one school of 100, it is harder to get say 100% board pass rate because you have the less quality students in the mesh while if you eliminate all those C students and some of the B students by having a smaller class size of say 50, then it is easier to have a higher board pass rate. It is easier to be more selective with smaller class sizes and thus weed out the not so great students and then these won't contribute to your board pass rates but someone elses.

I see what you are saying. The following statement has been made many times and I agree: A top student will be a top student anywhere. The difference in programs is found at the bottom.

Of course, one could argue that these people should have never been accepted in the first place as they are usually the ones that don't do so well and end up making some obscure "podiatry hate site" on the web! :laugh:
 
I see what you are saying. The following statement has been made many times and I agree: A top student will be a top student anywhere. The difference in programs is found at the bottom.

Of course, one could argue that these people should have never been accepted in the first place as they are usually the ones that don't do so well and end up making some obscure "podiatry hate site" on the web! :laugh:

lol
 
I see what you are saying. The following statement has been made many times and I agree: A top student will be a top student anywhere. The difference in programs is found at the bottom.

Of course, one could argue that these people should have never been accepted in the first place as they are usually the ones that don't do so well and end up making some obscure "podiatry hate site" on the web! :laugh:

I agree with you 100%. If schools had smaller class sizes, there would be more competition hence better scores.
 
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