New Residency (UT Chatanooga)

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My emails are unanswered also. I think they are going to be in the scramble this year.
 
I don't think its opening this year.
 
-Goose- said:
I don't think its opening this year.
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Neither do I. When I was looking at possible job opportunities, I looked at Erlanger. I was told they were expecting to hear from the RRC in September.

Having said that, I know the ED director/program director. He's a great guy.
 
southerndoc said:
Neither do I. When I was looking at possible job opportunities, I looked at Erlanger. I was told they were expecting to hear from the RRC in September.

Having said that, I know the ED director/program director. He's a great guy.
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When did you talk to them? This is posted on there website but Im not sure how up to date it is:

"The Department of Surgery is seeking approval to begin an Emergency Medicine Residency. A decision should be made by the Emergency Medicine Residency Review Committee in late February 2008. Given approval, we will begin the program in either July 2008 or 2009. Dr. James Creel has been named the Emergency Medicine Residency Program Director. The residency will be a three-year program approved for 6-8 residents at each level and will begin at the PGY-1 level."
 
I did a rotation there. They met with the RRC in Sept but there was one thing that still needed to be worked out. They are meeting again in Feb and are pretty sure that they will get approved. So they will likely scramble this year. Also of interest, UT Chattanooga just got a new dean who is EM trained, so that is good for them.
 
What a sweet place to live. You could do after-work runs on the Ocoee River, climb at the T-wall on your off service lunch hours, and catch the Grand Ole Opry on the weekends. What a place, and it's cheap to live there. I hope they're hiring in 3 (or 4) years.
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The rumor around Erlanger is that they will get approved in February for the 2008, and could likely scramble to get a class together this year. There are a few academic aspects of the program they had to address, and they are doing so with some new attendings. However, wether they get approved or not is up to the RRC, but the buzz is they believe they will
 
So, what is Erlanger like? - volume, acuity, trauma? Is it the big show in town like UNM, Cincy, etc - or are there lots of other hospitals sharing the referal base? Burn Center?
 
WallowaWanderer said:
So, what is Erlanger like? - volume, acuity, trauma? Is it the big show in town like UNM, Cincy, etc - or are there lots of other hospitals sharing the referal base? Burn Center?
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Chattanooga is a very small town. In the 2000 census there were 155k people in the city. It draws from a decent sized area of southeastern tennessee, northeastern alabama, and northwest georgia. There are 3 major hospitals in the city, but Erlanger is the major one. Not sure about the burn center. I would recommend spending some time in Chatt-town before decided whether or not it is for you. I love it there (Nashville is my home, but I would also love to end up in Chattanooga for residency). Some yanks think we are backwards.

That being said, Chattanooga has a decently vibrant scene. The riverfront district is cool, and you can find a million outdoorsy things to do with your free time. Nashville and Atlanta are only 2 hours away, and you are close to the smokies.
 
From what I remember of it during my paramedic days, they have a VERY active trauma center (one of the busiest in the nation) with an active aeromedical program (3 helicopters: 2 Bell 412's, 1 Bell 206). They have a burn center, but I'm not sure how much business they get.

Erlanger isn't the only game in town. Memorial has an active cardiac program. However, Erlanger gets a lot of respect and sees a ton of patients.
 
southerndoc said:
From what I remember of it during my paramedic days, they have a VERY active trauma center (one of the busiest in the nation) with an active aeromedical program (3 helicopters: 2 Bell 412's, 1 Bell 206). They have a burn center, but I'm not sure how much business they get.

Erlanger isn't the only game in town. Memorial has an active cardiac program. However, Erlanger gets a lot of respect and sees a ton of patients.
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Why so late to the party with these resources?
 
southerndoc said:
You've got me. I think Chattanooga would be a great place for a full 4-year medical school as well, but currently it's only a clinical site.
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You can do all of your 3rd and 4th year in Chattanooga, if you like.
 
southerndoc said:
You've got me. I think Chattanooga would be a great place for a full 4-year medical school as well, but currently it's only a clinical site.
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Yeah, UT-Memphis has the program where you can go to Knoxville or Chattanooga during 3rd and 4th years, but there's no 4-year school.

I'm from Chattanooga and would love to go to med-school here. I was considering going to UT-Mem so I could come back during clinical years, but ultimately decided on a far-away private school instead.

I'm excited about the new residency though.. I would love to come back to Chattanooga in a few years. One of my mentors is a FP doc who is a faculty with the UT-Chattanooga FP residency. maybe he'd know more about the program?
 
AMH28 said:
I did a rotation there. They met with the RRC in Sept but there was one thing that still needed to be worked out. They are meeting again in Feb and are pretty sure that they will get approved. So they will likely scramble this year. Also of interest, UT Chattanooga just got a new dean who is EM trained, so that is good for them.
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But why would they want to start their first class in the scramble? Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until next year and have stronger candidates to begin with? 😕
 
Hard24Get said:
But why would they want to start their first class in the scramble? Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until next year and have stronger candidates to begin with? 😕
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Warm blood. Residents to see patients is always a good thing for both patient care as well as training. Remember, the guys who are starting the residency want to teach, so they don't mind teaching scramblers.
 
southerndoc said:
Warm blood. Residents to see patients is always a good thing for both patient care as well as training. Remember, the guys who are starting the residency want to teach, so they don't mind teaching scramblers.
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oh, I didn't mean it that way. But when I was at a relatively new program and one that is starting next year, they made a big deal out of getting a strong 1st class.....
 
Does anyone know if this residency will be both AOA and AMA apporved?
 
RobbingReality said:
Does anyone know if this residency will be both AOA and AMA apporved?
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The AMA doesn't approve residencies. The ACGME/RRC does.

Not sure about AOA. I know one of their attendings is a DO (I'm assuming he is staying on since he does a good bit of research).
 
The new DO school in TN will also have an affiliation with the hospital in the upcoming years lending itself to becoming AOA apporved.
 
RobbingReality said:
The new DO school in TN will also have an affiliation with the hospital in the upcoming years lending itself to becoming AOA apporved.
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Knowing the deans at UT, I have a hard time believing that. Post a link or provide some evidence.
 
I can not give you written proof that the new DO school will have rotations in Chattanooga, but Erlanger staff was hired by the school on the condition that their students will be going there.
 
RobbingReality said:
I can not give you written proof that the new DO school will have rotations in Chattanooga, but Erlanger staff was hired by the school on the condition that their students will be going there.
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This is interesting. We'll see how it plays out. I heard otherwise.
 
There are many hospitals throughout the country that are dually accredited, why would the administration at UT have an issue with this? UT does not own Erlanger and it is up to the hospital board to make the best decision not UT. Currently there are DO's in UT residency's in internal med., family practice, path, and surgery, and I do not see why UT would not share a hospital they don't own for DO students to do 3&4 yr. rotations. I have friends who go to UT and I was accepted to UT and this doesn't appear to portray UT philosophy.
 
RobbingReality said:
There are many hospitals throughout the country that are dually accredited, why would the administration at UT have an issue with this? UT does not own Erlanger and it is up to the hospital board to make the best decision not UT. Currently there are DO's in UT residency's in internal med., family practice, path, and surgery, and I do not see why UT would not share a hospital they don't own for DO students to do 3&4 yr. rotations. I have friends who go to UT and I was accepted to UT and this doesn't appear to portray UT philosophy.
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In a conversation I had last year with one of our deans, we discussed the new school in question. He expressed how they looked negatively at the school's assumption that their students could rotate at UT-K & UT-C. He made it clear that they weren't going to be allowed to do so. Things may have changed since then.

I'm not sparking an MD-vs-DO fight, but rather pointing out that I heard that our deans were not happy with the new school's assumptions. I personally believe that it is irresponsible to open a school without having adequate, assured rotation sites for the 3rd and 4th year.

Edit: I am also not suggesting there is a 'philosophy' of anti-DO sentiment at UT. Certainly not the case.
 
-Goose- said:
I'm not sparking an MD-vs-DO fight, but rather pointing out that I heard that our deans were not happy with the new school's assumptions. I personally believe that it is irresponsible to open a school without having adequate, assured rotation sites for the 3rd and 4th year.
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I thought it was the responsibility of the accreditation bodies to ensure everything is adequate to open a medical school? The LCME is very strict about this, but I'm not sure if they review DO schools. (I don't think they do.)
 
southerndoc said:
I thought it was the responsibility of the accreditation bodies to ensure everything is adequate to open a medical school? The LCME is very strict about this, but I'm not sure if they review DO schools. (I don't think they do.)
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Its my understanding that there have been some issues with some of these new DO schools that are popping up like crazy not having adequate clinical sites. I don't think the accrediting body of the AOA has the same level of standards as the LCME.
 
local DO school to me ships its 3rd and 4th years all across the country. Out of a class of 60ish I think about 10 stay within 3 hours of the school. Most get farmed out to small towns with some input from students.
 
EMpb said:
local DO school to me ships its 3rd and 4th years all across the country. Out of a class of 60ish I think about 10 stay within 3 hours of the school. Most get farmed out to small towns with some input from students.
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I'd imagine that most (if not all) of these arrangements are to smaller community hospitals without a pre-existing relationship with a medical school.
 
Please send an email to the program again and I will be sure that it is responded to.
 
If you send an email to program coordinator they will be sure it is responded to. Thanks.
 
FUTURE DEN MOM said:
If you send an email to program coordinator they will be sure it is responded to. Thanks.
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Where can we find the program coordinators email? The website I found only has the PDs email.
 
FUTURE DEN MOM said:
We are excited to announce that the University of Tennessee College of Medicine Chattanooga has been approved for an Emergency Medicine Residency starting in July 2008 at Erlanger Medical Center. As we will not be able to participate in the NRMP this year, applications are being electronically accepted via email for consideration for the class starting in 2008. Send your application along with a cover letter to [email protected]. Please include your CV, personal statement, Dean's Letter, and your USMLE Step 1 and 2 scores (including both CK and CS). Also, please include the most convenient way for us to get in touch with you.

Thanks again for your interest and enthusiasm. We look forward to hearing from you soon.

James H. Creel, MD
Anuj A. Parikh, MD
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If this program starts in July 2008, how can applicants apply to this program while applying to the 2008 General Residency Match for EM?
 
Thank you for your interest but since our institution is participating in the NRMP in other residency programs we are not permitted to discuss positions with US Allopathic students until scramble day on March 17th after 11:30 a.m.
 
dmitrinyr said:
If this program starts in July 2008, how can applicants apply to this program while applying to the 2008 General Residency Match for EM?
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DO's can still apply outside the match. I think this was posted for those people who need to scramble.

I have mentioned it before: Erlanger is an excellent hospital and should be a great place to train. I transported patients there as a paramedic and was thoroughly impressed with their physicians and the setup. I was thinking of going to work there after residency, but ended up taking a job elsewhere until I do fellowship.

Glad to see Erlanger got approved.
 
Hard24Get said:
oh, I didn't mean it that way. But when I was at a relatively new program and one that is starting next year, they made a big deal out of getting a strong 1st class.....
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* resurrecting only thread*

The first class are actually pretty good residents. Many of them came from other residency programs (I think 1 surgery, 1 neurosurgery).
 
I interviewed there. The PD was super friendly, as were all the residents. Seems like it will be a strong program.
 
Heh. I'm not sure I've ever seen "access to Knoxville" as being a benefit to anyone.
However,
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Chattanooga is a great town. I don't know anything about the residency unfortunately.
 
Access to Knoxville is great if you're a UT fan. 😀

Edit: Nice picture, lol.
 
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