2011 MD/PhD Match

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Hello folks,

Again, I'll be collecting data for this years matches of MD/PhD students. If you have results from your school or your intended school, please share - post here or e-mail doctorandgeek(REMOVE)atgmail.com. This is the final year that I'm running this thread - it's been fun!

General Comments (copied from last year):

1) I'm tracking graduates from MD/PhD programs. Students obtaining a PhD independently prior to medical school are impossible to track, and furthermore I speculate that these students have little interest in research, at least in comparison to their MD/PhD counterparts. Therefore, I've limited this match list to graduates of MD/PhD programs.

2) Do not make any assumptions as to the quality of a program's match list based on the presence of highly competitive matches, as the reasons for choosing a specialty and location are complicated more than just name reputation. In general, beware also of statements by programs claiming that some high percent of students get their "first choice", as you can't rank programs you don't even get interviews from (actually you can, but your chances of matching are zero). About the only real negative conclusions one can make about a program is that it has excessive number of people who fail to match, or that a program consistently has graduates match in research-unfriendly specialties or at non-academic institutions.

3) In past years I've provided sources for data to help with reliability of data. Most reliable are program webpages and other official announcements, then contributions by e-mail or PM from students who I can verify, then contributions of anonymous students. Least reliable is "correlate", which means I take an MD/PhD program's roster and compare it to a match list with names available online. As always, corrections are appreciated, but if I have data from somewhere higher on the list - especially an official program announcement, I'm taking the more reliable source as gospel.

Previous match results threads:
2010: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=692625
2009: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=610893
2008: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=503857
2007: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=380918
2006: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=265950
2005: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=186611
2004: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=112378

Website:
http://www.stanford.edu/~jcpaik/match.html

Reference:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/302/12/1271.2
http://www.mstp.uab.edu/jama

Stats:
10/13/11, 37/42 MSTPs
354 Categorical Matchers

Top Residencies
Internal Medicine - 92
Pediatrics - 39
Pathology - 36
Neurology - 27
Radiation Oncology - 21
Psychiatry - 21
Radiology - 17

Top Locations
Harvard - 50
UCSF - 19
Stanford - 19
Johns Hopkins - 16
Penn - 14
UCLA - 14
WashU - 13
U of Washington - 13
Michigan - 12
Columbia - 10.5


Collated Listing (10/13/11) - see attached

Remaining NIH-funded MSTPs:
Emory, Mayo, Indiana, Mt. Sinai, Wisconsin
 

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Good luck and congratulations to all those matching today!
 
Congratulations to everyone that matched! Enjoy your weekend 🙂
 
Hello folks,

FINALLY. It's time for match day again! Again, I'll be collecting data for this years matches of MD/PhD students. If you have results from your school or your intended school, please share - post here or e-mail doctorandgeek(REMOVE)atgmail.com . This is the final year that I'm running this thread - it's been fun!

Good luck to all tomorrow!

General Comments (copied from last year):

1) I'm tracking graduates from MD/PhD programs. Students obtaining a PhD independently prior to medical school are impossible to track, and furthermore I speculate that these students have little interest in research, at least in comparison to their MD/PhD counterparts. Therefore, I've limited this match list to graduates of MD/PhD programs.

2) Do not make any assumptions as to the quality of a program's match list based on the presence of highly competitive matches, as the reasons for choosing a specialty and location are complicated more than just name reputation. In general, beware also of statements by programs claiming that some high percent of students get their "first choice", as you can't rank programs you don't even get interviews from (actually you can, but your chances of matching are zero). About the only real negative conclusions one can make about a program is that it has excessive number of people who fail to match, or that a program consistently has graduates match in research-unfriendly specialties or at non-academic institutions.

3) In past years I've provided sources for data to help with reliability of data. Most reliable are program webpages and other official announcements, then contributions by e-mail or PM from students who I can verify, then contributions of anonymous students. Least reliable is "correlate", which means I take an MD/PhD program's roster and compare it to a match list with names available online. As always, corrections are appreciated, but if I have data from somewhere higher on the list - especially an official program announcement, I'm taking the more reliable source as gospel.

Previous match results threads:
2010: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=692625
2009: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=610893
2008: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=503857
2007: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=380918
2006: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=265950
2005: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=186611
2004: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=112378

Website:
http://homepage.uab.edu/paik/match.html
[WILL BE DEAD (AND REPLACED) SOON]

Reference:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content.../302/12/1271-a
http://www.mstp.uab.edu/jama


is there any plan to pass the baton (and the awesome data you've gathered) so that this info is still publicly available?
 
Einstein

Dermatology- Montefiore Med. Ctr.
Emergency Medicine- Beth Israel-Deaconess Med. Ctr.
Internal Medicine- Brigham & Women's Hosp.
Internal Medicine- Brigham & Women's Hosp.
Internal Medicine- Cleveland Clinic
Internal Medicine- Thomas Jefferson Univ. -PA
Internal Medicine- Univ. of Washington Hosp.
Neurology- UCLA Med. Ctr.
Neurology- Univ. Miami-Jackson Memorial Hosp.
Obstetrics & Gynecology- Long Island Jewish Med. Ctr.
Pathology- Univ. of California-Davis Med. Ctr.
Pediatrics- Univ. of Washington-Seattle Children's Hosp.
Post Doc
Psychiatry- Yale Univ. Med. Ctr.
Radiation Oncology- Univ. of Pennsylvania Med. Ctr.
Radiation Oncology- Univ. of Pennsylvania Med. Ctr.
 
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UAB (source: me)
Anesthesiology - UNC
Dermatology - Northwestern
Internal Medicine - Johns Hopkins
Internal Medicine/Research - Stanford
Internal Medicine/Research - UAB
Pathology - Cedars Sinai
Pediatrics - CHOP
Pediatrics - Tufts
Peds Genetics - CHOP
Peds Neuro - Children's Boston

WashU (source: website)
Dermatology - WashU
Emergency Medicine - Columbia/Cornell
Internal Medicine - Cornell
Internal Medicine - Duke
Internal Medicine - MGH
Internal Medicine - Vermont
Internal Medicine - WashU
Internal Medicine - WashU
Ophthalmology - UTSW
Orthopedic Surgery - HSS
Orthopedic Surgery - Iowa
Pathology - MGH
Pathology - WashU
Pediatrics - Children's Boston
Pediatrics - WashU
Peds Neuro - Mayo
Psychiatry - Columbia
Psychiatry - MGH
 
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Medical College of Wisconsin
Anesthesia - University of Washington
Cardiac Surgery - University of Toronto
Pediatrics John Hopkins
Deferred
 
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Pitt
Internal Medicine, Duke University
Internal Medicine/Womens Health, University of Pittsburgh
Internal Medicine, University of Michigan
Dermatology, Harvard University
Internal Medicine, Harvard University
Internal Medicine, Harvard University
Radiology-Diagnostic, UCLA
Pediatrics, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Internal Medicine, University of Pittsburgh
Otolaryngology, University of Pittsburgh
Radiology-Diagnostic, UCSF
 
SUNY Buffalo

Dermatology - UMiami
Neurology - UCSD
Medicine PSTP - UCSD
 
Baylor (source: PM)
Internal Medicine/Research - Emory
Internal Medicine - MGH
Pediatrics - WashU
Plastic Surgery - Baylor
Radiation Oncology - MDAnderson
Radiology - UTHouston
Prelim
Postdoc
Postdoc
Postdoc

Tri-I (source: website)
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - Michigan
Internal Medicine - Mt. Sinai / Faculty Position - Columbia
Internal Medicine - UCSF
Ophthalmology - Duke
Ophthalmology - Michigan
Ophthalmology - UCLA
Peds Genetics - CHOP
Psychiatry - MGH (2010 postdoc)
Radiology - Cornell
Urology - Thomas Jefferson
Faculty Position - Cornell
Postdoc
Postdoc

Duke (source: website)
Anesthesiology - Duke
Anesthesiology - Stanford
Dermatology - UNC
Internal Medicine - Johns Hopkins
Otolaryngology - Iowa
Pathology - Brigham
Pathology - UPenn
Pediatrics - WashU
Radiation Oncology - Duke
Deferred
 
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VCU (source: PM)
Internal Medicine - Cornell
Orthopedic Surgery - UAB
Otolaryngology - U of Washington
Pathology - VCU
Pediatrics - UCSF
Pediatrics - Virginia
Radiation Oncology - Johns Hopkins

UTHouston (source: PM)
Internal Medicine - Baylor
Internal Medicine - Michigan
Internal Medicine - UTSW
Internal Medicine - WashU
Neurology - Mayo
OB/GYN - Drexel

Stony Brook (source: website)
Internal Medicine/Research - Cornell
Pathology - NIH
Surgery - Nebraska

Vanderbilt (source: website)
Internal Medicine - MGH
Neurology - Northwestern
Neurology - WashU
Psychiatry - Columbia
Psychiatry - Vanderbilt
Radiation Oncology - WashU
? - ?
 
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is there any plan to pass the baton (and the awesome data you've gathered) so that this info is still publicly available?

Who would volunteer to do this?

It is possible that the AAMC group is going to make this all obsolete soon, but that's another matter.

The data will continue to have a place online somewhere - likely when I find webspace at Stanford where I'll be in a couple of months.

Cheers!
 
Pitt
Internal Medicine, Duke University
Internal Medicine/Womens Health, University of Pittsburgh
Internal Medicine, University of Michigan
Dermatology, Harvard University
Internal Medicine, Harvard University
Internal Medicine, Harvard University
Radiology-Diagnostic, UCLA
Pediatrics, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Internal Medicine, University of Pittsburgh
Otolaryngology, University of Pittsburgh
Radiology-Diagnostic, UCSF

I know the website isn't forthcoming, but it would be great to find out what specific IM programs those folks matching at Harvard matched into.

EDIT: NM - both matched at Brigham.
 
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How can you tell if a program has students that fail to match?
 
UCLA (source: PM)
Internal Medicine - Beth Israel Deaconess
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - Stanford
Internal Medicine - UCLA
Internal Medicine - UCLA
Internal Medicine - UCLA
Psychiatry - MGH
Psychiatry - Stanford
Psychiatry - Utah

UTSW (source: PM)
Internal Medicine - UTSW
Internal Medicine - Yale
Neurology - UTSW
OB/GYN - UTSW
Pathology - Yale
Psychiatry - Emory
Surgery - Mayo

Tufts (source: website)
Pathology - Beth Israel Deaconess
Pathology - Brigham
Pathology - Brigham

NYU (source: website)
Internal Medicine/Research - Columbia
Internal Medicine - Emory
Internal Medicine/Research - Mt. Sinai
Neurology - Harvard
Neurology - Rochester
Otolaryngology - UCLA
Pathology - Columbia
Pediatrics - Columbia
Faculty Position - Duke
 
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Is there a difference in terms of research opportunities between Mass Gen and Brigham?
 
I'm not sure what to make of this data. How do you tell which residencies are the best for a particular specialty? If it's by word of mouth, care to pass along some of that word of mouth wisdom? 😀
 
Some more questions for those in the know:

What is a prelim year? Is it a bad thing, like you didn't match directly in?

Is there a particular message to be gleaned if a school has a surprisingly high number of people going straight into postdocs (for example, the match list for Baylor?)
 
Is there a particular message to be gleaned if a school has a surprisingly high number of people going straight into postdocs (for example, the match list for Baylor?)
yeah good question...I'm not sure what it means other than their MD training was a waste.
 
NIH funding to particular schools by specialty:

http://www.brimr.org/NIH_Awards/2010/NIH_Awards_2010.htm

will give you a rough idea about research prestige

VERY rough idea. Truth is, there is no "uniform" ranking of residency training programs. A lot of it is subjective and based solely on perception. Other important things include training structure, dedicated time for research, famous attendings and researchers, attending turnover, who the chairman is, etc.
The best way to find out the "best" programs is to simply ask a few people in the field. You will see how much variation there is, but there will definitely be a "top tier" that most people think are superb programs, "mid tier"- programs most will recognise as having good training and particular strenghts (this can also be further subdivided), and low tier- programs to avoid.

These programs will be different for each specialty.
 
UCSF (source: email)
Anesthesiology - UCSF
Internal Medicine/Research - Brigham
Neurosurgery - Stanford
Pediatrics - Stanford
Pediatrics - Stanford
Pediatrics - UCSF
Pediatrics - UCSF

Penn (source: PM)
Anesthesiology - Stanford
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - Cornell
Internal Medicine - Penn
Internal Medicine - Stanford
Neurology - Harvard
Neurology - Michigan
Neurology - Penn
Ophthalmology - Johns Hopkins
Pathology - MGH
Pathology - Stanford
Pediatrics - Children's Boston
Pediatrics - U of Washington
Psychiatry - Penn
Radiation Oncology - Moffitt
Radiation Oncology - UCSF
Radiology - Penn
Surgery - Michigan

Northwestern (source: website)
Internal Medicine - Michigan
Pathology - UCSD
Pathology - UIC
Pathology - Wisconsin
Peds Neuro - Northwestern
Radiation Oncology - Michigan
Radiology - Northwestern
Radiology - UCSF
Surgery - Emory
Surgery - Iowa

Stanford (source: correlate)
Anesthesiology/Research - UCSF
Internal Medicine - Brigham
Internal Medicine - OHSU
Internal Medicine - UCSF
Ophthalmology - Duke
Ophthalmology - Johns Hopkins
Neurology - Harvard
Neurology - Stanford
Neurosurgery - MGH
Radiology - Stanford
 
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Would someone mind explaining to me what is meant by "faculty position" for some of the graduates?
Does this mean they are going straight into research without a post-doc? Does it mean they will be doing some residency position at the institution with a guarantee of a faculty position after its completion?
 
Would someone mind explaining to me what is meant by "faculty position" for some of the graduates?
Does this mean they are going straight into research without a post-doc?

Yes.

Does it mean they will be doing some residency position at the institution with a guarantee of a faculty position after its completion?

No. Some residency programs allow flexibility i.e. 6 months on residency, 6 months off postdoc/faculty position.
 
Columbia (source: PM)
Anesthesiology - Yale
Dermatology/Research - NYU
Neurology - Harvard
Peds Genetics - Harvard
Peds Neuro - Harvard

MUSC (source: website)
Emergency Medicine - Cincinnati
Internal Medicine - Mt. Sinai
Neurology - Vanderbilt
Pediatrics - UTSW
Peds Neuro - U of Washington
Urology - MUSC
Prelim
(Postdoc?)

Minnesota (source: website)
Neurology - WashU
Ophthalmology - Minnesota
Pathology - U of Washington
Plastic Surgery - Brigham
Radiation Oncology - Minnesota
Prelim

Cincinnati (source: correlate)
Internal Medicine - MGH
Ophthalmology - UCLA
Ophthalmology - USC
Pediatrics - Cincinnati
Peds Neuro - Cincinnati
Prelim

UIC (source: correlate)
Neurology - Columbia
Psychiatry - UIC
? - ?
 
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LSU-New Orleans (Source: Matching class list to match list)

Pediatrics/Dallas - UTSW
Pathology - LSU SOM/New Orleans
Pediatrics - Vanderbilt Univ Med Center
Pathology - Vanderbilt Univ Med Center
Prelim/Urology - UTexas HSC San Antonio
 
Harvard (source: website)
Anesthesiology - NYU
Dermatology - UCSF
Internal Medicine - MGH
Internal Medicine - MGH
Pathology - Brigham
Pediatrics - Children's Boston
Radiation Oncology - MSKCC
Radiation Oncology - UCSF
Radiation Oncology - Wisconsin
Radiology - Vermont
Prelim

Iowa (source: correlate)
OB/GYN - Iowa
Pathology - Vanderbilt
Pathology - WashU
Pediatrics - Cincinnati
Radiation Oncology - UCSD
Urology - CWRU

Rochester (source: correlate)
Family Medicine - Rochester
Internal Medicine/Research - Scripps/Green
Internal Medicine - Utah
Internal Medicine - Vanderbilt
Neurosurgery - Rochester
Neurology - UCSF
Ophthalmology - UCSF
Orthopedic Surgery - HSS
Radiology - Rochester
? - ?

Miami (website)
Dermatology - Chicago
Dermatology - Pitt
Internal Medicine - Brown
Internal Medicine - Kaiser/LA
Psychiatry - Emory
Psychiatry - USF
Radiation Oncology - Michigan

UIUC (website)
Anesthesiology - Emory
Emergency Medicine - Stanford
Emergency Medicine - Stony Brook
Internal Medicine - Kaiser/SFBay
Internal Medicine - TAMU
Internal Medicine - UTSW
Medicine / Pediatrics - Indiana
Pathology - Cedars Sinai
Pathology - UCSF
Pediatrics - SIU
Pediatrics - Wayne State
Pediatrics - Wisconsin
Radiation Oncology - Wisconsin
Psychiatry - Stanford
Radiology - BID
Radiology - Indiana
Radiology - UCLA
Surgery - SLU
Surgery - NYH/Queens
Urology - UCDavis
 
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Loma Linda (email)
Pathology - UCLA
Radiation Oncology - Beaumont

UNC (correlate)
Anesthesiology - Columbia
OB/GYN - UNC
? - ?

Arkansas (correlate)
Pathology - Columbia
Pediatrics - Children's Boston

Virginia (website)
Anesthesiology - UVA
Child Neurology - CHOP
Internal Medicine - Columbia
Pathology - Johns Hopkins
Pediatrics - Albany
Pediatrics - UCLA
Psychiatry - Pitt
Radiation Oncology - MSKCC
 
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For Ohio State University

Internal Medicine - University of Washington
Neurology - UCLA
Internal Medicine - University of Cincinnati
Internal Medicine - Vanderbilt
Anesthesiology - University of Pittsburgh
 
Chicago (e-mail)

Child Neurology - CHOP
Dermatology - Chicago
Emergency Medicine - UCSF
Internal Medicine - UCSF
Neurology - UCLA
Pathology - Chicago
Pathology - Chicago
Pediatrics - Rhode Island Children's/Brown
Radiology - Utah
Surgery - Pittsburgh

UCSD (PM)
Internal Medicine/Research - Scripps/Green
OB/GYN - UAB
Pathology - Stanford
Pediatrics - UCLA
Pediatrics - UCSD
Pediatrics - UCSD
Pediatrics - UCSD
Radiation Oncology - Stanford
Vascular Surgery - UMass
? - ?

Likely, next batch will be when MSTP program websites have their annual updates in a couple of months after the end of the interview season.

Thanks again for all who helped so far!
 
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University of Washington (source: website)
Pathology - UCSF
Pathology - WashU
Surgery - Stanford
Pediatrics - Harvard
Internal Medicine - Indiana
Internal Medicine - U of Washington
Dermatology - Yale
Internal Medicine - U of Washington
Neurology - U of Washington
Medicine/Pediatrics - Brigham/Childrens Boston
Neurosurgery - Stanford
Internal Medicine - MGH
Pathology - U of Washington
Psychiatry - Northwestern
Postdoc

Johns Hopkins (source: website)
Radiation Oncology - Johns Hopkins
Anesthesiology - Johns Hopkins
NDD - Johns Hopkins
Pediatrics - Johns Hopkins
Neurology - Johns Hopkins
Radiology - Duke
Pathology - Brigham
Radiology - Johns Hopkins
Psychiatry - Johns Hopkins

Maryland (source: newsletter)
Internal Medicine - UCI
Radiation Oncology - Florida
Internal Medicine - Christiana
Pediatrics - Maryland
Radiology - Maryland
Internal Medicine - Rochester
Neurology - Mayo-Jax
 
Is there a particular message to be gleaned if a school has a surprisingly high number of people going straight into postdocs (for example, the match list for Baylor?)

Probably they're all superstars who can't be bothered to counsel obese smokers on their angina.

Alternatively, they could have all had mental breakdowns during anatomy and gone on to repeatedly fail step 1.
 
Probably they're all superstars who can't be bothered to counsel obese smokers on their angina.

Alternatively, they could have all had mental breakdowns during anatomy and gone on to repeatedly fail step 1.

This is silly. I have seen a number of MD/PhDs not match with reasonable applications. Residency is competitive, and if you're a physics nut you may not be able to secure a rads/rad onc spot, for example. A national average step 1 score (220) and position in the lower half or quartile of your med school class (without failing anything) may not get you a spot in either specialty. Then the question is do you take a spot in a less related and less competitive field like path, do you apply to a backup like IM, or do you just go to post-doc without trying or try with post-doc as a backup.
 
In any small group you are going to see some small-number effects. Those three future postdocs from Baylor may be the first three they've ever had. That said, I do think minipanda is bringing up something relevant; straight-to-postdoc can mean you didn't match (FAIL, to some extent) or you are a hotshot (WIN). One would kind of like to know the difference.
 
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