Key-hole and TFE on CDP

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Dental2000

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Is it just me or is keyhole and TFE look to be pretty easy on CDP?

So far i havent scored below a 10 in both these sections...
 
I was thinking the same thing when i was using cdp. It does worry me, because for whatever reason (rational or not), I am expecting it to be more difficult on the real thing. Everyone keeps saying that it's pretty close, with the key hole being more difficult.
 
Its not the point..My lowest was a 10 on key hole...12-13 has been my range on TFE...

What im trying to ask is if its on par with the real DAT or is CDP just trying to boost ur confidence up only to get raped on the actual DAT
 
It's very similar to the actual. From all the score report threads I've read over the past two months, the consensus is that CDP is very close to the real thing with the only exception being that Keyholes has a greater emphasis on proportions, to which I believe one can easily adjust during the exam.

Also, since you don't need a super high PAT score, CDP should be adequate to achieve 20+ score. We're good. Just keep doing them every day or two to keep your perceptual mind in practice.
 
quick question when you guys do cdp. Do you try to use techniques like line counting or the hole grid or do you just try to visualize it better?

I use a combo of methods depending on the level of difficulty. For TFE, I try to visualize it first which narrows it down to two choices, if not already leading to the right answer. Then I'll use other techniques. Same with Hole Punches. I can visualize the straightforward folds but will always use the grid method if it involve half folds or other strange crap.
 
Im not sure what the line counting method is...I use a method where i count the dotted lines and see if they fit in the specific view im looking for

eg if the top view had 3 dotted lines with 2 solid lines, then there should be 5 solid lines when looking at the front view (doesnt have to be but it works alot fr me)
 
Does line counting work on the actual DAT? I use line counting on CDP and I have been consistently scoring in the 12-13 range on TFE, but I am afraid that this method won't be sufficient for the actual test.
 
Ok here's my attempt at explaning my method....Im not sure if its the same as the line counting method, but I was able to discover it myself 🙂


And also don mind my drawings 😉. Their not the best and not drawn to scale.Just try and understand what im sayin

If you look at the top view Their are 3 dotted lines passing Horizontal through the square, which are bounded by the horizontal sides of the square. Because they are dotted they must be below the square. So You should expect to see 5 solid lines when looking at the front view i.e the 3 dotted lines and the 2 solid sides of the square
(Remember you have to also see the end view to fully get an answer, just looking at the top view wont suffice and vice versa)

By looking at the front view , we do indeed see 5 solid lines as we perceptually thought we would

Now Before looking at the end view, try and imagine what the end view would look like?

If u imagined the End View looking like the Front view then your WRONG!!

Remember the Top view had 3 dotted lines spaced apart from each other?
And when you looked at the front view, the former 'Dotted' lines were
one-on-top-of-the-other?

as you can imagine, you are gonna expect to see the End view as the 3 former 'dotted' lines spaced apart by being one above the other, in a chair like fashion.
If you were able to imagine this then GR8!!!!👍👍

Phew, hopefully this explains my trick. But remember TFE doesnt always deal with solid and dotted lines, so don expect to get em all rite by just doing this.

And This works for me. It may or may not work for you. I you have a better method than mine. forget this message and just follow yours. No point confusing yourself.
 

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Wow Dental2000 I finally go it. This work amazingly. So this methods only work with the dotted lines? How can you use it for other TFE problems?
 
I would say the real exam is harder... the hole punching was wierd for me. There seemd to be many 2/3 folds the paper rather than 1/2 or 1/4; and they are not very distinguishable since the holes were much smaller than on CDP...

The key hole tests more of proportions... I think for most of these questions I was deciding on the difference between thickness of a protruding part or the position and size of a hole in relation to the bigger circle. Some even looked exactly the same. I had been getting 24/25's on CDP and got a 20 on the real thing. I'd say keep at it on CDP... you really don't want to be too overconfident for the real thing...
 
I cant really say about other TFE as my method deals with dotted lines and solid lines...I suggest u sit and stare at the questions ur getting wrong on TFE and try and view it from a 3-D persepective...

its hard i know, but practice makes perfect