10 point jump possible?

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Is a 10 point jump on the MCAT possible? If so is there someone who posted a thread or blog that someone can link me to or if you have your own stories greatly appreciated. I have seen 5 point jump increases in second time test takers, but not 10.

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I've seen 8 point jumps on this board from 27 to 35, and I went from 30 to 36. What's the fascination with a 10 point jump? You can probably boost your application more effectively in other ways, but a ten point jump is possible if you start with a low enough score and work hard enough and have some luck. Say, no higher than a 28 or so.
 
Well fascination is that I want a 10 point increase I have a low 20s score, so a 10 or even 8 point increase would put me in the 30 range.
 
<----- had a 5pt increase, then a 4pt increase.

it is NOT fun studying for the MCAT that many times! But if you have to, then you have to.

Sorry that I don't have any motivation to offer right now (I haven't eaten breakfast yet)...but keep in mind I'm one of many people on this board who have dramatically increased their scores.
 
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A 10 point jump is possible.

Kaplan free online exam: 18
1st MCAT (after a lot BAD studying): 26
2nd MCAT (after GOOD focused studying): 36

A few notes:
-My AAMC practice tests were all around 29-31 before the first one so I think I may have choked on the first go
-I hadn't taken O Chem 2 before the 1st MCAT
-Let me know if you want to know how I studied
 
I had a 12 point jump...24 diagnostic (TPR) to a 36 on the real thing. I know a guy on these boards, who is also an md/phd applicant, who got a 39 on the real thing and he more than doubled his score from his diagnostic. I also remember seeing another guy on the pre-allo boards, who started with an 18 diagnostic and ended up with a 39. A ten point jump is definitely possible.
 
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Is a 10 point jump on the MCAT possible? If so is there someone who posted a thread or blog that someone can link me to or if you have your own stories greatly appreciated. I have seen 5 point jump increases in second time test takers, but not 10.

My first test was a 26 (with extended breaks and probably giving myself the benefit of the doubt on timing) and my final result was a 34. So I would say my first was probably more like a 24 and I got a 10 point jump with 3 months of studying. Most of my point increase came from listening to audio osmosis bio and studying EK bio
 
1st MCAT - 25
2nd MCAT - 36 (better study techniques)

PM me, and i'll try to type up the details in a day or so for you
 
I think at best 9 points higher is the closest you get, and most go from 5-8 points higher.

Except for azuldelcielo and me who went up 11 and 10 points respectively (from one actual MCAT administration to the next), right?
 
Ah, just read the post more carefully. Yeah, I don't know anyone personally who had a 10 point jump from one test to the next, but I'm sure its possible.
 
Also did you read my post correctly especially the parts where I said.......

"MOST i.e. NOT ALL, but MOST go up 5-8 points, 9 at the highest"

Or the part where I wrote:

WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS HERE ON SDN

Again, caps don't equal yelling. Just for emphasis. Before you get angry at me again, please read my post more carefully. Just a simple request.

Hey gujuDoc. I wasn't actually angry! I am proud of my improvement and hope that scaredoflife and others can have similar good fortune. And also, I did read those parts, so I suppose I should admit that I was egging you on a bit, but not in a mean way (it wasn't meant to be anyway). I should have added a wink at the end. Apologies!
 
Hey guys lets not get angry, lets be one happy MCAT family.

To clear up some stuff, I was actually asking if people have had there second MCAT score increase by 8-10 points from the first MCAT score.

Guju Doc and Monkeygirl answered the question really well. I also appreciate people who included there diagnostic score increase.

Question: I mean other than intensive studying what do you guys feel advocates a 8-10 point jump increase? Is there something the second time specifically that you did that benefited you? (These could redundant questions through the forums)
 
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Hey guys lets not get angry, lets be one happy MCAT family.

To clear up some stuff, I was actually asking if people have had there second MCAT score increase by 8-10 points from the first MCAT score.

Guju Doc and Monkeygirl answered the question really well. I also appreciate people who included there diagnostic score increase.

Question: I mean other than intensive studying what do you guys feel advocates a 8-10 point jump increase? Is there something the second time specifically that you did that benefited you? (These could redundant questions through the forums)

Although it's not quite a 10pt increase, bozz went up 8 pts. Here's what he did - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=499207
 
I've received quite a few inquiries about how, what and when I studied for the MCAT. I'll paste below the response I've been sending to most people. It probably absurdly long, but I hope it will help someone. [Should I post this in another thread like the 30+ study tips? Anyone, feel free to let me know!]

First I should say that I took my first diagnostic (the 18) 1 year post college so it had been a long while since I'd done much of any of the subjects tested. My first practice test (AAMC 3) after a month or so of studying was a 31 (I did each section on a separate day though). My average was about 30-31 on AAMCs before the first real MCAT, so I think I was too nervous/stressed/burnt out and just bombed.

The first time I studied I used the Kaplan book (not the class-I didn't take a prep class) and studied for big chunks of time. I wasn't very focused (got distracted really easily and felt sorry for myself a lot of the time - lame) and was really stressed out about the whole thing. I also used Exam Krackers 101 passages in verbal reasoning.

The second time I made sure I was focused while I was reading the material. If I found my concentration wavering I would get up and take a short break or stop studying, go do something fun, and come back a few hours later. A big key for me was to stay calm about the whole thing. I also used the Exam Krackers books the second time. They worked much better for me than the Kaplan book. I think there are a few reasons why:
1. The books are much shorter since they are divided by subject; I think this made the material less intimidating to me.
2. They have cute pictures and mnemonics that helped me remember key concepts.
3. They tell you exactly which formulas you need to memorize and tell you which you should just understand/know how to use if presented to you on the test - this helped keep me from freaking out.
4. I felt they were less technical (while still presenting the content) than the Kaplan books which made the material seem more approachable.
5. They have lots of practice questions within chapters and at the end of chapters. Those were great for checking my understanding - something I'm afraid I didn't really do the first time around.

I also used the 1001 questions in physics book (Exam Krackers). I'm not sure that I really needed the questions (I used only a small portion of them) but it was really helpful for getting my confidence up and helping me to solve problems quicker for topics that I felt I was struggling with. Confidence was a big factor for my retest. I'm not really sure how much more material I knew, but I felt really good about what I did know. That was very important for me (message is: attitude makes a big difference). I used the 101 passages in verbal reasoning again the second time to keep up on the verbal passages.

Finally, the second time I listened to the Exam Krackers Audio Osmosis over and over again. Luckily I have about a 20 minute drive to and from work so was able to do it then. This could possibly be done while walking to and from class? I liked it because it made me really think about things in a different way ie: without a piece of paper and pen in front of me. They also give out a lot of good tips for quick problem solving.

Practice tests:
I believe that I did 5 of the AAMC practice tests the first time around and like I said was averaging around 30 on those (this is why I think anxiety got the best of me on the first attempt). The second time I did the remaining 3 AAMC tests and a Kaplan test that came on the disk with the Kaplan book I used the first time. I think my scored on this second set of practice tests was about 32-34.

Amount of time studying:
1st time: About 3.5 months, probably 2+ hours per night weekdays and 8+ hours per weekend. This wasn’t good studying, I was very distracted. I believe spending so much time was why I got burnt out and freaked on the first test.

2nd time: About 2.5 months on a sort of strange schedule because I was working full time and taking a night class. First 1.5 months about 2-3 hours during the week and 4 over the weekends. Last 1 month about 3-5 hours M-Th, 4 hours F and about 8 hours over the weekends (doing a practice tests, reviewing the answers and doing some studying). The study times for the last month are probably what I did during the most ambitious week. I was able to handle this schedule for 4 weeks, but I probably wouldn't have been able to keep it up much longer. I paced myself pretty well so that I finished going over all the material about 1.5 weeks before the test and had the rest of the time to do a final practice test and review things I was uncomfortable with.


In the end I went from 8ps 10vr 8bs to 14ps 11vr 11bs.

Tips for efficient/focused MCAT study:
-Study in a quiet place without distractions (no music for me!)
-Don't do study marathons, they wear me out, it's hard to stay focused and I don't retain all the information very well. Set aside a block of time (1-2 hours) and study that whole time without checking email, facebook, getting a snack, etc. The exception is if you find your mind wandering stop right away and do what you need to get back on track (bathroom break, cup of coffee, put the book down and come back an hour later, etc.)
-Don't feel overwhelmed by the material, break it down and attack a small portion. Eventually you will get through it all!
-Vary the subject you study. For example I would do one chapter in EK physics, then switch to biology, then chem, then o chem. That way I didn't get "sick" of one subject and never had too much time between subjects
-Check your understanding frequently
-Do what you need to boost confidence and your speed for solving problems especially in PS (do practice questions, etc)
-Try to figure out which equations you NEED to memorize (for PS) and which you just need to know how to use, it takes a lot of pressure off if I know I just need to understand a concept

I hope this helps, please feel free to ask me follow up questions if this answer yours or if this post just raised a thousand more questions.

Good luck!
 
You guys are awesome for this Info I cannot appreciate this enough. I mainly think it was text anxiety and the whole persona that if I study for long periods of time I will accomplish a lot. There are many things this second time around I will change and will end up benefiting me. I will definitely use 1-2 hrs study blocks, and also break up subjects according to days, and finally develop self confidence by doing practice questions. One last question do think coffee is good thing to drink while studying and real test? (I have read the coffee thread) I drink coffee now and don't know if I should stop this habit so I don't develop a need for it, and so that my brain does not only function during caffeine intake. Thanks!
 
You guys are awesome for this Info I cannot appreciate this enough. I mainly think it was text anxiety and the whole persona that if I study for long periods of time I will accomplish a lot. There are many things this second time around I will change and will end up benefiting me. I will definitely use 1-2 hrs study blocks, and also break up subjects according to days, and finally develop self confidence by doing practice questions. One last question do think coffee is good thing to drink while studying and real test? (I have read the coffee thread) I drink coffee now and don't know if I should stop this habit so I don't develop a need for it, and so that my brain does not only function during caffeine intake. Thanks!

I'd say coffee is certainly a good thing to drink while studying and during the real test IF it is something you are used to doing. Caffeine withdrawal headaches are terrible and IMO would make it really difficult to study or take the test. If you want to stop drinking coffee I'd try to do it slowly and make sure you're not stopping like 2 weeks before the test. If you choose to continue drinking it just be careful on test day not to have too much. You'll be jittery enough anyway and extra jitters from too much coffee probably won't help! You can keep a bottle of coke or something to drink in between test sections.

gujuDoc, what do you think?
 
I went from a 20 on my first MCAT in April to a 31 in July. It's possible, just depends on how motivated and focused you are.
 
Its possible if you score low enough. If you have low 20's, it shouldn't be too hard to get it to low 30's. But once you are in the 30's...it is VERY difficult to go to the 40's. Because the way the MCATs are scored.... the difference between a 36 or 38, or 39 is very little. But the difference between a 26 29, 32...is much larger... so a drastic gain is possible if you score low, but if you are in the 30's...i doubt you could go up to the 40's (and i really don't see why anyone would do that anyways).
 
A 10 point jump is possible.

Kaplan free online exam: 18
1st MCAT (after a lot BAD studying): 26
2nd MCAT (after GOOD focused studying): 36

A few notes:
-My AAMC practice tests were all around 29-31 before the first one so I think I may have choked on the first go
-I hadn't taken O Chem 2 before the 1st MCAT
-Let me know if you want to know how I studied

👍 Hard work pays off!
 
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Wait for it.......

my friend went from a 14M(yes he studied for it) to a 36O(a damn near perfect[14] on physical sciences!)


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