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My flawless logic:

>Individuals have muscular dystrophy
>Individuals probably receive medical care for their condition
>Therefore, individuals must be patients
>Patients probably get sweaty and smelly after soccer games
>LizzyM says that if you can smell patients it's a clinical experience
>Therefore, the experience is clinical.
 
wh2k13 said:
My flawless logic:

>Individuals have muscular dystrophy
>Individuals probably receive medical care for their condition
>Therefore, individuals must be patients
>Patients probably get sweaty and smelly after soccer games
>LizzyM says that if you can smell patients it's a clinical experience
>Therefore, the experience is clinical.
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haha thanks. that was brilliant.
 
I ranked a similar activity on mine as nonclinical volunteer, but I already have plenty of clinical volunteering. I reasoned since it's not "in a clinic" and they're not "patients" of mine nor seeing a doctor in my presence that it's not as clinical as my other experiences. It's up to what you'd rather show off I guess
 
Seems like a pretty great volunteering experience but definitely not a clinical setting so I'd say no.
 
NSMedical said:
Hi guys...

I've been involved with the Glendale Rough Riders Power Wheelchair Soccer Team (only competitive sport for individuals with muscular dystrophy) for a couple of years now as a volunteer. I've hosted fundraisers to help them attend out of state competitions and I've also went out of state with them to tournaments and stuff.

Most of the team members need assistance with eating/taking medication and other personal needs. so would this be considered clinical? or what? please help. thanks
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Not even close to clinical. Just because you're assisting the team members by giving them medication and personal needs doesn't make it clinical. You need to be in a clinical setting (like a hospital or a clinic) for your experience to be considered clinical. Although, it's a pretty sweet thing to mention it in your PS/secondaries as a most meaningful non-clinical activity.
 
Sorry, but definitely not clinical. Clinical experiences generally take place in a.....wait for it........almost there..........

a clinic.
 
Soulstice said:
By that logic EMS is non-clinical.
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But those people (in a perfect world) are seeking medical care or an acute illness or injury and are patients who have not yet reached the hospital. (In a less than perfect world, some use an ambulance as a taxi service.

Would you be surprised to hear that some adcom members have been seeking and placing more weight on non-clinical volunteering than on clinical volunteering as long as you have some clinical exposure (working with, volunteering along side, or shadowing doctors). So, don't knock those non-clinical experiences.
 
Soulstice said:
By that logic EMS is non-clinical.
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If EMTs never went to hospitals, dropped off patients, gave report to the medical team, took report from nurses, dropped off patients at clinic, dropped off patients at rehab, etc, then yes, it would be non-clinical (though I might argue that the back of an ambulance functions sort of as a clinic on wheels).

If it didn't happen in a "clinic" it's not clinical experience, just like a truck driver applicant wouldn't be able to claim the 10 years he spent driving a Durango qualifies as relevant truck driving experience.

A big purpose of "clinical experience" is to assimilate into a medical environment - one similar to the environment you will one day work in for the rest of your life as a doctor. An environment where you witness firsthand what a doctor does, as well as what other members of the medical team do. If the experience does not involve this environment, then this purpose is left unfulfilled.
 
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