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For MSAR here are things I would look at
a) Schools where you are above teh 10th percentile GPA
b) Schools that take at least 15-20% OOS
c) Schools that you are closest to their 90th percentile MCAT. I would mostly stay away from lower tier schools in the 30-32 MCAT range.

You can find many many schools under these qualifications. Go through them and see which ones you like. Post the ones you find and like when you have gone through this and youll get good input.

Ill give you a few schools to start with so you can get an idea of what Im talking about.
Einstein
U of Iowa
Stony Brook
Case Western
Cincinnati
 
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I recommend:

U VM
U Toledo (maybe)
Miami
St. Louis
Albany
Albert Einstein OR USC/Keck
Rochester
Rush
Rosy Franklin
NYMC
EVMS
Wake Forest
Jefferson
Temple
Drexel
Creighton
Tulane
Dartmouth
Loyola
Emory OR BU
Mayo OR Duke OR Case IF you have a good research background
Any new MD school, especially Hofstra. Skip Central MI and the three new FL schools. I can't recommend CNU.
UCD
UCI
UCLA
UCSD
UCR IF you're from the Inland Empire
Touro-CA
Western
AZCOM
PacNW
Western-OR
SOMA
TUNCOM



littlecow said:
Hi, I'm planning on applying to a lot of out-of-state schools. I would appreciate any help putting together a school list as I don't seem to be able to use the MSAR that effectively.

3.6+ cGPA
3.5+ sGPA
MCAT ~523
Very selective "name-brand" UG
(Trend: First 3 semesters good, 4th semester bad, 5th and 6th semesters ok, 7th and 8th semesters good? Weird trend based on course rigor so I don't know what adcoms will read from it...)

2 years and 3 summers of research
Will complete a senior thesis. Only have poster presentations other than that.

~200 hours of clinical volunteering (hospital, hospice) at the moment but will work a clinical job during gap year so...
~50 hours of shadowing but will continue shadowing during gap year

2 leadership positions in on-campus activities

Decent->good LORs
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I would apply to all CA schools where you're willing to go and are eligible (if not from inland empire, then not UCR).

I would then apply to a bunch of mid-tier schools (Rochester, Emory, Einstein, USC-Keck, Hofstra, perhaps UVA).

Next, apply to your undergrad's med school, even if you go to Harvard or Stanford.

Then apply to a couple NY state schools like Stony Brook, NYMC, and Downstate (maybe only 2)

Finally, go through MSAR for top schools and look for those with the lowest 10th percentile GPA (both science and cumulative) and pick ~10 or so of them. Talk to the prehealth office at your school and see what medical schools graduates from your undergrad have the best success rates at and use that to help inform your list.
 
littlecow said:
I have it. I'm sorry I must be blind but I'm looking at the category "Acceptance Information" and it only seems like they have Matriculated # and Interviewed # but not how many were actually accepted? What if 100 out of 100 interviewed were accepted but only 5 matriculated?


Or I guess just % of OOS Interviews/Applications would be enough?
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Generally, you can make educated inferences based on that information. The USNWR data is not always accurate and shouldn't be used to really influence your decision. Number OOS interviewed is a good metric to use.
 
littlecow said:
Is the rule of thumb: any OOS interview% of 10%+ should be ok?
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I don't really have a good rule of thumb for you. Generally the ones I recommend are the pennsylvania schools, the new york schools, the virginia schools, some of the connecticut schools (Quinnipiac mostly), UAZ (both of them), and maybe a couple others.

However, you should only really be needing to look at the NY schools and the VA schools unless any other strike your interest.
 
Good list. I would consider looking at Ohio State, U of Illinois, Cincinnati, Hofstra, Saint Louis(this one especially), Medical College of Wisconsin and Wake Forest .

Rutgers is 97% OOS; it's low yield school OOS for anybody. Brown is rather low yield as well. Otherwise good list, I think you'll be fine. If nothing else I really would recommend adding Saint Louis, U of Illinois and Ohio State(although I think all the ones I listed are worth real consideration).
 
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littlecow said:
Thanks for your help guys! I really appreciate it. I'll post this in OP as well.


My list as of right now:

CA
Most California Schools: UCSD USC UCLA UCI UCD UCSF Stanford all great

Stats-matched Rankings-Dependent
Columbia
Duke
UPitt
Cornell
Icahn
Emory
Case Western
UVA
Mayo
UIowa
BostonU remove
Dartmouth
Brown remove

NY
Rochester
Einstein
Stony Brook

My UG-Specific High Interview Rates / Misc
Thomas Jefferson
Temple
Rutgers remove
Tufts
Miami i assume miller - if so then good
VCU
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I think if you remove those 3 schools, you have a solid list. Highly highly highly recommend adding Hofstra. Definitely look into SLU and Wake Forest.
 
Omg lol we're literally the same person...

I would totally trade my stats for yours though. I think 3.6/3.5s is a very solid place to be. Anything below that is when they start to get concerned. Best of luck mate
 
littlecow said:
Thanks so much! Can I ask the reasoning for removing Brown/BU? Are those two schools the ones that get a lot of high stat people applying to them as safety/filler schools?
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Brown interviews only 3% of its applicants, so unless you meet its nebulous criteria for "good fit", you're a Brown undergrad, or you have a strong reason to want to go there particularly, it's generally not worth adding to your list.

BU gets an extremely high volume of applications and is thus considered a "low-yield" school.
 
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