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[Dox4lyfe]

Clinical research is loosely defined as that which studies the safety or effectiveness of different medications, devices, diagnostic products and/or treatment regimens.

If that's what you're doing in your lab with all that imaging, then yes it is clinical research.

EDIT: I work in a health psych lab where we put human subjects through different psychological treatments (trying to stay as vague as possible lol) in order to see which works best. I'm putting that down as clinical. Although, I don't think classification of the type of research matters at all tbh.

 

[Slytherclaw12]

Commenting because I'm in the same situation


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[jkim1995]

Can I ask how you were able to find clinical research experience?

 

[gonnif]

Calling this clinical in the traditional sense is misleading. If I were to see this marked as clinical then read the description as research, it would be a negative mark.

Get clinical by working with patients that are obviously such in a hospital or clinic setting

 

[LizzyM]

Calling this clinical in the traditional sense is misleading. If I were to see this marked as clinical then read the description as research, it would be a negative mark.

Get clinical by working with patients that are obviously such in a hospital or clinic setting

I concur but the problem is that I would not really call it research either. It is, at best, the lowest level of research being at the technician level. I say this because I doubt that you have any role in study design, hypothesis generation, trouble-shooting, etc.

 

[freedoctor17]

I concur but the problem is that I would not really call it research either. It is, at best, the lowest level of research being at the technician level. I say this because I doubt that you have any role in study design, hypothesis generation, trouble-shooting, etc.

So if someone doesn't have any role in running the project you wouldn't consider it real research? I work in a very hands on lab but in the end I really just do what someone else has planned already, I don't get to decide what should be done. I do get to see how decisions are made at meetings and all but don't get to make any myself other than deciding to redo things if I don't think they went well haha.

Also piggy backing off this thread would something involving testing treatments but on animals be considered clinical? No patients involved.

 

[LizzyM]

So if someone doesn't have any role in running the project you wouldn't consider it real research? I work in a very hands on lab but in the end I really just do what someone else has planned already, I don't get to decide what should be done. I do get to see how decisions are made at meetings and all but don't get to make any myself other than deciding to redo things if I don't think they went well haha.

Also piggy backing off this thread would something involving testing treatments but on animals be considered clinical? No patients involved.

The more one is involved in the scientific method, the better. Being in a technical role and doing what you are told is the bare minimum to say you are involved in "research" but you don't have any say in the scientific method, do you? Better to have some say in designing and conducting a scientific investigation and even better is having a role in bringing a research project to its logical conclusion: publication. Some people design and conduct a research study as part of a senior thesis, etc. Many others just help out in a lab for a summer and that will count as "research" but not be as highly rated as doing a thesis or otherwise conducting a study that one designed or helped to design.

Clinical usually means something involves patients. Drug and device testing on animals in anticipation of subsequent testing on humans with the goal of FDA approval for human use, is not "clinical".

 

[freedoctor17]

The more one is involved in the scientific method, the better. Being in a technical role and doing what you are told is the bare minimum to say you are involved in "research" but you don't have any say in the scientific method, do you? Better to have some say in designing and conducting a scientific investigation and even better is having a role in bringing a research project to its logical conclusion: publication. Some people design and conduct a research study as part of a senior thesis, etc. Many others just help out in a lab for a summer and that will count as "research" but not be as highly rated as doing a thesis or otherwise conducting a study that one designed or helped to design.

Clinical usually means something involves patients. Drug and device testing on animals in anticipation of subsequent testing on humans with the goal of FDA approval for human use, is not "clinical".

Ok sounds good good! I'll be doing this throughout senior year (and potentially over summer) for my capstone but unfortunately it probably won't be on my initial application.

So is there an on between to basic science and clinical? I found another thread on here where basic science was said to be considered only "new discoveries" for example like a biochem lab figuring out a mechanism while clinical is anything to be applied in a clinical setting. I guess it doesn't really matter what it's classified as? Amcas just has an option for research I think and doesn't ask for clarification.

 

[Goro]

I am a rising senior studying neuroscience at a top 10 university. By the time I apply in June 2018, I will have worked in a neuroscience research lab for three years.

My lab is called a "Clinical Neuroscience Lab" and we run a variety of neuroimaging methods (MRI, EEG, fMRI, DTI) on healthy and afflicted populations, with conditions from generalized anxiety to schizophrenia. My work in the lab has me in direct contact with these subjects.

My question is this: is this research experience considered "clinical?" By the name of the lab and the nature of the experiments with which I help run, I consider it to be such. However, I am unsure because the majority of subjects I run are from normal, healthy control populations. Also, the experiments are not run in a hospital or clinic setting--most are performed in academic buildings (MRI is necessarily performed in the hospital).

Can somebody help me decide if this experience is considered clinical? I would appreciate some other opinions! Thank you in advance~~~~

"Clinical" is when you can smell the patients, as the wise LizzyM phrases it.

Just because it has to do with something that derives from patients doesn't make it clinical.

 

[Dr. Meliodas]

Besides basic science and clinical research, there is also public health research (A good chunk of research that derives from patients but not interacting face to face would fit in this category) and health policy research.

 

[freedoctor17]

Besides basic science and clinical research, there is also public health research (A good chunk of research that derives from patients but not interacting face to face would fit in this category) and health policy research.

What would you consider research that involves coming up with new treatments for various diseases? I don't think that fits with basic science since it's mainly applying other people's discoveries rather than figuring something out from scratch. I might be confused on the definition of basic science research though.

 

[Dr. Meliodas]

What would you consider research that involves coming up with new treatments for various diseases? I don't think that fits with basic science since it's mainly applying other people's discoveries rather than figuring something out from scratch. I might be confused on the definition of basic science research though.

It depends on what part of the research spectrum you are in. I'd say that what your describing would classify as Translational research at the moment, if you get to the point where your doing clinical trials with the new treatment then it would be clinical research at that point. It really depends on what stage of the research you are in. A good way to distinguish this is:

Basic science Research: "How does this work?"
Translational Research: "Let's turn this into something useful!"
Clinical Research: "Is this actually useful (in people)?"

 

[freedoctor17]

It depends on what part of the research spectrum you are in. I'd say that what your describing would classify as Translational research at the moment, if you get to the point where your doing clinical trials with the new treatment then it would be clinical research at that point. It really depends on what stage of the research you are in. A good way to distinguish this is:

Basic science Research: "How does this work?"
Translational Research: "Let's turn this into something useful!"
Clinical Research: "Is this actually useful (in people)?"

Thanks! Based on that it's Definitely translation.