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[KnightDoc]

1. Yes AMCAS knows every school you have applied to
2. All TMDSAS schools either are part of AAMC or AACOM and by agreement they exchange applicant and student data reports.
3. See #2.
4. Just because TMDSAS and AMCAS exchange data sets does not mean the individuals schools see the raw data. Individual schools in AMCAS only know if you applied to that school before. AMCAS does not release your application list to any school. So schools will not know how many other schools you are applying to.

What OP is asking is whether he can get away with not completely and honestly asking the TMDSAS question. Do they have a right to ask it (I know -- you are going to say "seller's market and they can be as inappropriate as they like 🙂) and is there a way for TMDSAS to verify his answers?

You seem to be saying that the systems do communicate but schools don't have access to complete data sets, which implies that they CANNOT validate his response to the request to "list every school you applied to before and will be applying to." So, what should applicants do in these cases? Be honest because it's the right thing to do? Be honest because there is an easy way for them to get caught if they aren't? Or, choice "C" not be honest because the schools have no right to the information, the response to the question will in no way benefit the applicant, and the schools have no other way to obtain the information?

 

[KnightDoc]

Thanks, on 4, TMDSAS individual schools know your application list since you have to tell them. Do they give that info to AMCAS individual schools?

Don't worry about this -- AMCAS already has information on all the AAMC schools you are applying to and, as a matter of policy, they don't share school specific information with other schools, so this is a non-issue for the TX schools. The question is whether TMDSAS can access your AMCAS school list, and whether they will share it with the TX schools.

 

[KnightDoc]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking if individual AMCAS schools will know what other schools I applied to and reapplied to since I listed them on TMDSAS? If the answer is yes, then I'm not going to apply TMDSAS. If the answer is no, then I will apply TMDSAS. More of a logistical choice, not trying to get away with dishonestly to be clear.

I do understand - TMDSAS asks for the information, AMCAS does not. AMCAS does not share school lists with the schools -- AMCAS, TMDSAS, AACOMAS, Caribbean, whatever, so that's a non-issue. Since TMDSAS is asking the question, aren't you curious as to whether it can validate your AMCAS school responses through AMCAS? I am!!

 

[KnightDoc]

Yes, I am curious about that too. Maybe @gonnif can clarify. But I'm oos for TX, so AMCAS is really my best bet of getting in. So I'm worried that individual schools will contact tmdsas and see my large school list as a reapplicant and be turned off. Don't want to risk that.

Maybe a better question is: Do TMDSAS schools know you applied AMCAS? And vice versa?

I'm just a premed like you, so take everything I am saying with a big grain of salt, but I have been studying this for over a year in preparation for my own application, so I am somewhat educated on the process. AAMC is presently paranoid about being accused of (and/or sued for) acting anti-competitively, so they have taken steps to severely reduce what schools can see regarding what applicants are doing at other schools. This is why you have nothing to worry about on the AMCAS side.

On the other hand, TMDSAS is asking the question, so they expect an answer. As @gonnif said, their systems have some integration (from the AMCAS website - Please note, only applicants with an AMCAS application will be able to use the Choose Your Medical School tool. Applicants who have applications in both AMCAS and TMDSAS will be able to select TMDSAS schools when using the Choose Your Medical School tool.), so who knows what TMDSAS can see through its access to AMCAS? (Maybe @gonnif knows?) I have no idea whether AAMC schools would reach out to TMDSAS on their own, and whether TMDSAS would share information with them (again -- @gonnif?).

Personally though, I really wouldn't allow this to drive any decisions on your part. The odds are high no school is going to hold applying (or reapplying) to a lot of schools against you. And even if they do, why do the job for them by eliminating applications you would otherwise submit? I would just do whatever I would do anyway, not lie in response to any application questions, and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[KnightDoc]

1) You are paranoid. No AMCAS school is going to in any way, shape or form contact TMDSAS (which they have no connection to) or individual schools to somehow find out that your are an applicant or reapplicant.
2) The only AMCAS schools that know you are a reapplicant is the individual school that you are re-applying to.
3) 25% of applicants per AMCAS cycle are reapplicants
4) If you have any MCAT score from that is older than a year, schools will assume that you are a reapplicant. So even if nobody tells the school, they will assume you are

Why would #4 be true when 2/3 of applicants take at least one gap year, and when sophomores and juniors take the test as well? How many people actually apply with scores less than one year old???? Seems like it would only be juniors applying without a gap year, seniors taking the test right ahead of a gap year, and non-trads taking the test right before applying. This leaves out all the juniors taking the test and then taking at least one gap year, sophomores, and seniors taking the test ahead of multiple gap years, non-trads taking it more than one year before applying, plus, of course, reapplicants. Dangerous to assume all tests more than one year old are reapplicants.