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[soccergirl1043]

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[YellowSalamander]

Have you calculated the cost of attendance difference between the two programs? It’s significantly more expensive to live in New York City, even with subsidized housing.

WashU is a sligthly stronger program and Barnes Jewish I would argue the better teaching hospital. If academic medicine is truly what you are interested in long-term, I’d recommend WashU. That is not to say that you can’t be successful in academic medicine from Mount Sinai, which is also a great program.

You seem to prefer NYC over St. Louis and being closer to your support system and significant other is a definite plus.

I’d also consider looking into how medical students and residents are treated in NYC. From what I have gathered its not the best experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschool/s/PWwWNjv0AR

You will do great wherever you go! Good luck!

 

[lazymango93]

There's really no prestige or program strength difference between these schools. Since your support system seems to be in NYC, I would go with Sinai. You'll easily fulfill your goals in academic medicine from either.

 

[newkungfukenny]

Sinai for your support system and the city. imo, the negligible difference in your career outcomes due to WashU's very slight edge in prestige isn't worth enduring STL and long distance over NYC and being close to family.

 

[taquitolord]

sinai; there's no difference in quality of education at this level and the life benefits are huge.

Also re: cost of living in NYC, I believe sinai has significantly subsidized housing which is around $700 a month (and really nice) so that should quell those worries for sure

 

[johnr42700]

WashU is the stronger program and Barnes Jewish the better teaching hospital. If academic medicine is truly what you are interested in long-term, I’d recommend WashU.

Premeds telling wrong advice confidently to other premeds always baffles me.

 

[soccergirl1043]

Premeds telling wrong advice confidently to other premeds always baffles me.

Can you lmk what your take is if this is incorrect! 🙏

 

[YellowSalamander]

Premeds telling wrong advice confidently to other premeds always baffles me.

I am more than prepared to defend my perspective—are you? Love people who don’t contribute anything meaningful to the conversation while claiming others are wrong with no explanation.

 

[johnr42700]

Can you lmk what your take is if this is incorrect! 🙏

You are splitting hairs. Most don't know if they actually want to pursue academic medicine before medical school, and it sounds like you are mainly trying to "keep doors open" rather than trying to find a particular career path for yourself. You're over-emphasizing perceived prestige as a predictor of a fuzzy notion of "success."

Sinai and WashU are both excellent programs regardless, and if you do decide to pursue a competitive specialty or something in academia, you'll have many, many mentors available for research at either program.

Your partner is in NYC, and it sounds like you have history there. Unless you're particularly keen on shipping off to the midwest, I would think Sinai is the clear choice.

 

[YellowSalamander]

You are splitting hairs. Most don't know if they actually want to pursue academic medicine before medical school, and it sounds like you are mainly trying to "keep doors open" rather than trying to find a particular career path for yourself. You're over-emphasizing perceived prestige as a predictor of a fuzzy notion of "success."

Sinai and WashU are both excellent programs regardless, and if you do decide to pursue a competitive specialty or something in academia, you'll have many, many mentors available for research at either program.

Your partner is in NYC, and it sounds like you have history there. Unless you're particularly keen on shipping off to the midwest, I would think Sinai is the clear choice.

I disagree with your perspective that I'm splitting hairs. Furthermore, it's almost like keeping doors open is valuable when you are unsure about the direction of your career long-term.

I argued that Barnes Jewish (including St. Louis Children's and Siteman Cancer) is the better teaching hospital, which I think its an entirely legitimate opinion given its rather unique position as both a critical access hospital and a tertiary referral center for most of Missouri and Southern Illinois, and its top-tier residency programs in almost every specialty. It provides exposure to both urban, suburban and rural patient populations, something that is quite unique as a teaching hospital.

Nobody is saying that you can't be successful in academic medicine coming from Mount Sinai. As explicitly stated in my post "she will do great wherever she goes".