2010 Mt. Sinai VS NYU

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This is some last minute desperation, I can't decide between these 2 programs - what does everyone think??!! Please please help me!

(I did a search already and it was from like 2005 so please don't get angry!)
 
These were the only two NYC programs I looked at last year, so I'll give you a Cliff Notes version of my thoughts.

Sinai:
- the "sexy" place to be in NYC for anesthesiology.
- extremely supportive faculty/department. I got the feeling the residents were taken care of.
- I found the PD to be intoxicating. I'd bet he could sell ice to an Eskimo, and not in a slimy way. Just a great personality.
- Perhaps the best moonlighting pay I've ever heard of. You do one weekend moonlighting shift and you can pay your NYC rent; the rest of your salary is gravy.
- My interview experience was awful. I didn't jive with the residents. Everyone did seem very happy though. I interviewed alongside a Sinai student who noted that she thought it might be too coddled.

NYU:
- Tons of autonomy, broad experience. I think the TRACC call thing as a senior sounds awesome...it was the only place I interviewed that seems like it will really let you grow a pair while still in residency.
- Big class - not the biggest, but I think 25 or so.
- Rumor was that it was a little impersonal with the faculty, but who knows.
- If you're into how the aesthetics go, it prolly isn't the nicest place you'll ever see at the Bellvue, but you do get to go to a coupla other places.

I think this is a nice problem to have, if you're deciding between these two. May come down to where you wanna live. And you know - I don't remember hours at all. That might be a factor.

G'luck!
 
sinai medical students ARE coddled (they are actually notorious for that in EVERY specialty).
sinai residents are NOT. they are supported, however.

if you don't KNOW that sinai is right for you at this time, then it won't matter if you go to sinai or nyu. i think that people that get what it's all about do best there.
 
I interviewed at Sinai a couple weeks ago. I thought the program director was awesome, and I was a big fan of his use of the work F*ck during the interview (always a plus in my book). One negative thing that stuck out, however, was the list of recent fellowship spots that he included in the packet. I was surprised to see that most of the CA-3s were staying at Sinai. Does this mean that they are having trouble getting quality fellowships outside of Sinai? Can any recent sinai grad comment on this for me? Does the name carry outside of NY?
 
I am a current Ca-3 Mt Sinai resident and would love to shed a little light on the topic of fellowship.

For a lot of anesthesiology graduates, the idea of doing further subspecialization is a tough sell, even if it is just another year. You slaved away in undergrad, medical school, and then residency, and now, finally, you see the finish line and the lure of your impending attending salary and decide you have no desire to stick around another year as house staff. When I was a first year resident, most of the graduating class went right out into academics or private practice. Hardly anyone chose to do a fellowship.

However, in the 3 years that I have been here, those that have decided to go into fellowship have done very well. Remember, just like in applying for residency, there are a multitude of factors that affect which program you have your heart set on. Some had to be on the west coast for a spouse's job, some wanted to move "back home," while others wanted to go to THE hospital for x,y, or z, whether it is HSS for regional, or Brigham for OB, or Duke for cardiac., etc... so, just because we don't all end up at Harvard for fellowship, doesn't mean it was because we couldn't get a spot there. More than likely, we had no interest in going there.

I applied for peds. I was offered interviews at every place I applied (Hopkins, Boston Childrens, CHOP, etc), but for myself, the most important thing for me was being near my family for a year. I interviewed at my #1, LOVED the program, the next day they offered me a spot and I took it. It is at a top tier children's hospital and I couldn't be happier. The same goes for the other residents in my class. Almost without exception, they all received interviews at every place they applied, and they are all extremely happy with their fellowship spots. And yes, we sent someone to Harvard.

So, we do not have trouble getting quality fellowships outside of nyc, especially since I was actually unaware that there were really any quality fellowships IN nyc.

Furthermore, the department is very supportive if you do decide to apply for fellowship, even if you want to go outside the nest to do it. People are more that willing to pick up the phone and be your biggest cheeleader. They'll call on your behalf, sometimes even before you have approached them about calling, almost before you yourself have even decided to do a fellowship.

As for those that have chosen to stay at Sinai to do fellowship, they did so because they wanted to stay at Sinai afterwards. plain and simple. We are very happy here as residents, and a lot of us would love to stay on as faculty when we are done training. The hiring policy as of late has been either you must be fellowship-trained or a Sinai chief resident. So, those people that have stayed at Sinai to do fellowship do so because they are guaranteed a spot here when they are done.

Hope that somewhat answers your question. I am happy to answer any other questions, so please feel free to post.
 
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