2014 Charting Outcomes in the Match

[DermViser]

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New Charting Outcomes just came out: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Charting-Outcomes-2014-Final.pdf (page 49)

 

[lesterfreamon]

New Charting Outcomes just came out: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Charting-Outcomes-2014-Final.pdf (page 49)

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wow at those volunteer experience numbers i should have fluffed my eras more with some of the less significant things i did..

i didnt even put stuff like dermatology interest group since it was hardly active anyways

 

[FIREitUP]

not surprised in the slightest. in case anyone was curious, # of pubs and # of research experiences have also increased. Pubs from 7.5-->9.5, research experiences from 3.7-->4.3. Some increase in scoring in the 250's and 260's, the bulk of the increase seems to be in the 230's and 240's.

 

[DermViser]

wow at those volunteer experience numbers i should have fluffed my eras more with some of the less significant things i did..

i didnt even put stuff like dermatology interest group since it was hardly active anyways

I'm pretty sure by now most programs don't care. Maybe at a time when most schools didn't have interest groups, but now it's commonplace to have. Doesn't really mean much now.

 

[DermViser]

not surprised in the slightest. in case anyone was curious, # of pubs and # of research experiences have also increased. Pubs from 7.5-->9.5, research experiences from 3.7-->4.3. Some increase in scoring in the 250's and 260's, the bulk of the increase seems to be in the 230's and 240's.

Yes, this is from 2011:

 

[doc MD]

so glad i don't have to go through this again. what a nightmare.

g/l everyone!

 

[IceHouse]

so glad i don't have to go through this again. what a nightmare.

g/l everyone!

It was totally worth it.

 

[dermie1985]

Blah. This is gonna be an emotionally exhausting 6 months.

 

[Dermione Granger]

Getting more and more competitive. Higher step scores. Most matched candidates ranked 9 programs. And most candidates with PhDs matched (except one person)

 

[ratherbefishing]

Getting more and more competitive. Higher step scores. Most matched candidates ranked 9 programs. And most candidates with PhDs matched (except one person)

When it says not matched, does that mean they didn't match at all or just didn't match into the indicated specialty? Maybe there is no way to tell this?

 

[DermViser]

When it says not matched, does that mean they didn't match at all or just didn't match into the indicated specialty? Maybe there is no way to tell this?

I believe it means unmatched to that specific specialty (in this case Derm), as #2 shows the "Mean number of distinct specialties ranked" meaning that people applied and ranked more than 1 specialty.

 

[dermappca]

That's not my understanding. The numbers unmatched are those who did not list a "back up" specialty and only matched to a PGY-1 prelim position. Those who listed an alternative categorical residency and matched are not included in the "unmatched" category.

 

[DermViser]

That's not my understanding. The numbers unmatched are those who did not list a "back up" specialty and only matched to a PGY-1 prelim position. Those who listed an alternative categorical residency and matched are not included in the "unmatched" category.

Except #2 says - Mean number of distinct specialties ranked which is about 2. So in both columns, people had backups. Those unmatched didn't match into Derm.

 

[dermie1985]

I think Preliminary Medicine and Transitional Year programs count as separate specialties though.

 

[DermViser]

I think Preliminary Medicine and Transitional Year programs count as separate specialties though.

Outcomes no longer does Transitional Year stats bc it's not a specialty. A prelim also is not a specialty either. Internships are not specialties and are required for Derm.

 

[pinecat]

Blah. This is gonna be an emotionally exhausting 6 months.

 

[Decicco]

We're #1!

Step 1:
http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Charting-Outcomes-2014-Final.pdf (Page 9)

% AOA:
http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Charting-Outcomes-2014-Final.pdf (Page 15)

 

[DermViser]

We're #1!

In terms of board scores, actually ENT is.

 

[spartan564]

Reviving a slightly old thread but I think my question is relevant. How on earth does the average applicant have 9.5 publications? Does this include being published in your school's medical journal where essentially everyone get published? None of the derm residents I have ever talked to and very few people even on this board or the google spread sheets with applicants have ~10 published projects.

 

[dermie1985]

Reviving a slightly old thread but I think my question is relevant. How on earth does the average applicant have 9.5 publications? Does this include being published in your school's medical journal where essentially everyone get published? None of the derm residents I have ever talked to and very few people even on this board or the google spread sheets with applicants have ~10 published projects.

It's "abstracts, presentations and publications". So this includes conference abstracts and presentations, not just published, peer-review manuscripts. And yes, I'm sure people list things published in their school's medical journal.

 

[FIREitUP]

It's "abstracts, presentations and publications". So this includes conference abstracts and presentations, not just published, peer-review manuscripts. And yes, I'm sure people list things published in their school's medical journal.

you can also put in things that have been submitted but not accepted anywhere in there.

 

[Slack3r]

you can also put in things that have been submitted but not accepted anywhere in there.

Which, IMO, is a massive oversight and lends itself well to artificially pumping up your pub count.