2014 Residency Interview Summary Polls

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2014 Residency Cycle. Questions are in the poll choices. Please choose only ONE answer per question!

  • How many interview offers did you get? 0-6

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • How many interview offers did you get? 7-12

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • How many interview offers did you get? 13+

    Votes: 33 63.5%
  • How many secondhand interviews did you get? 0-2

    Votes: 17 32.7%
  • How many secondhand interviews did you get? 3-5

    Votes: 21 40.4%
  • How many secondhand interviews did you get? 6+

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • How many interviews did you ultimately attend? 0-5

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • How many interviews did you ultimately attend? 6-10

    Votes: 13 25.0%
  • How many interviews did you ultimately attend? 11-15

    Votes: 27 51.9%
  • How many interviews did you ultimately attend? 16+

    Votes: 8 15.4%

  • Total voters
    52

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SDN's been a great resource for me through the years, both in terms of info and in terms of moral support, so this is my attempt at passing it forward. I wanted to put up a grand master all-encompassing poll about the entire interview season so future applicants have something to refer to. These were the burning questions I had going into the interview season, so hopefully other people out there will find this helpful!

Since this is sort of a catch-all poll, it's pretty complicated, so please read the bold stuff before voting.

1) You are allowed to vote three times. The idea is to vote once per category.
2) The poll is grouped up into the following categories:

a) How many offers did you get?
b) How many "secondhand" interviews did you get? This is defined as an interview invite offered to you AFTER the school initially offered interviews; i.e., presumably an interview someone else had turned down.
c) How many interviews did you attend?​
3) Please vote for only ONE option under each category. Because of stupid poll formatting, I wasn't able to put multiple polls on this one post -- so instead, I just repeated the questions as part of the poll answer choices. I also wanted to divide the numbers more finely, but 10 options was the max 😡

And now, just a couple things I wanted to say to future applicants: first, interview invites seem to come out in two waves, roughly corresponding to the schools that invite before Dean's letters and the ones that invite after. Ergo: one in mid/late September, and one in mid/late October. There are invites trickling out in between the waves, obviously, but those are when most people seem to have received most of their interviews. That also means there may be an agonizing 2-3 weeks in between when your invites might slow to a crawl. If that happens to you, DO NOT PANIC 😛

Second, based on past empirical data, you have a ~80% chance of matching with 6 interviews. It goes up to >90% with 8. Above 12, you top out around 95%+. That said, there's always the horror story of someone ranking 15 and matching to #14, or ranking 15 and not matching at all. So to answer the age-old question of "how many interviews should I go on," the consensus seems to be: go on as many as you get/are interested in/can schedule/can afford. That usually works out to somewhere between 10-15. IMHO, it's okay if you have slightly more (or less). Obviously, don't hold on to interviews you have no interest in and/or interviews you know you can't make. But if you're interested in a school, and you have the time and the money to make it to their interview, imho you owe it to yourself to go. Don't let people guilt you into dropping a school you were legitimately interested in.

And lastly, don't be discouraged if the numbers here end up intimidatingly high. SDN's an exceptional crowd, and my experience is that the broader world of ophthalmology is full of smart, high-achieving, but ultimately human and non-superstar applicants. The vast majority seem to match somewhere they'll be happy nonetheless.

Okay -- I'm gonna shut my big mouth. After match day I might come back here and do one more poll to see just what rank # we matched to 😛 Until then, happy holidays and BEST OF LUCK!

(Edit: clarified voting a bit.)
 
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Also, I would recommend going to more than eight or even twelve interviews next year, if given the luxury to do so. And not only because of the previous horror stories. The feedback I got this year from talking to other applicants was that the ophtho programs on average this year received significantly more applications per program than before. My guess is that while moderately-increased number of students may have applied to ophtho this year, each student on average may have applied to significantly more programs; and perhaps this means that each applicant is going on significantly more interviews. On the trail (albeit limited sample size, since I didn't ask everyone this question), I have not personally met an applicant who was planning on attending less than 10 interviews. While the empirical data is still relatively recent, I worry that it may be getting outdated every year.

I am sure that going on twelve interviews is still really safe. And yes, if you interview at only the top 20 programs, you are at an increased risk of not matching. And the empirical data may hold true for several more years. I just wonder if the plateauing affect of going on interviews start happening at 13 and 14, down the line.

FYI, the max number of interviews attended is around 15-18 not because it was picked arbitrarily, but because that is as many interviews that a competitive applicant can realistically attend from late October to mid December, considering the overlapping schedule and the interstate travel.
 
I'd like to add that if you are a competitive applicant who wants to minimize your risk of not matching you should attend both interviews at quality programs AND programs which are lower "tier" but you'd still be happy at. This might mean picking a worse program over a better program if interview dates conflict. Do this especially if you know that you are a more introverted individual or bad at interviewing. Most of the stories I've heard about geniuses not matching are because they are socially awkward people/overly egotistical people that quickly get tossed after interviews or these students interviewed only at strong programs and each program only liked the student enough to be #5 or #6 on the rank list so the student didn't end up matching anywhere that had a <=4 resident roster.

This might be a poor assumption but... less competitive applicants on paper who fight to be ophthalmologists definitely show you something about their personality and abilities outside of test taking (i.e. killer interviewees)
 
Second the above re: not interviewing ONLY at reach programs, but instead having a nice spread! I think the reason you have horror stories of 15-ranked-and-no-match is, as pointed out, because that applicant went only to the most competitive interviews and then probably just barely missed matching at every one of them.

Also, for what it's worth, I actually did run into people with <10 interviews; some with <6. Most of them didn't seem to be "bad" applicants, whatever that might mean; instead, they were just given bad advice. E.g. some attending who applied and matched 20 years ago told them something along the lines of "with your stats, you only need to apply to 20 schools" and they took the attending's word for it.

It's worth keeping in mind the raw numbers: as a nationwide average, people seem to get interviews at about 1/10th of the places they apply to, and programs seem to interview roughly 10-20x as many applicants as they have spots. The average matched Step 1 is in the ballpark of 240, and will probably be a little north of that this year. You can reasonably expect extra bells-and-whistles to go with those high scores (AOA, high class rank, research, presentations, publications, service, leadership; not necessarily all of the above, but with at least one or two "discussable" things -- i.e. not just volunteering 3x at a homeless shelter).

So I guess this is a corollary to my "SDN is full of superstars and the real world isn't!" statement earlier: most people aren't flawless superstars, but the vast majority of people are very strong applicants, and superstars are definitely out there as well. Don't freak out just because everyone on SDN seems like a superstar, but don't lie to yourself about how strong the average real-world applicant is either. Ergo: apply broadly, and to a wide range of programs. Keep in mind also that what's reach, comfortable and safety is going to be very applicant-dependent. This is not the time to put on your rosetinted glasses. Be brutally honest with yourself and be pragmatic, because it's much better to be pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly shocked!
 
Shameless bump. Looks like a crap-ton of people already voted, but just in case you haven't, please sound off for posterity!
 
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