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CCOM number grades and no curve.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
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I've posted this before, but here we go again:
TCOM:
Years 1 and 2: Numeric grades (with curve)
Years 3 and 4: Pass/Fail (but the school retains the numeric grade and this is used to calculate GPA for 3rd year). They told us top 10% would also get honors, but that never happened 🙁
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TCOM:
Years 1 and 2: Numeric grades (with curve)
Years 3 and 4: Pass/Fail (but the school retains the numeric grade and this is used to calculate GPA for 3rd year). They told us top 10% would also get honors, but that never happened 🙁
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MoxieDO said:
I wouldn't know... they said the top 10% would get honors when we moved to P/F, but I guess they decided that would be too much trouble and never did anything about it. Noone gets honors, just P/F, which really sucks, in my not-so-humble opinion. Now everyone who applies for residency looks like a sucker because noone ever gets HP or H... just a freaking P. I would have rather stayed with numeric grades if they were going to screw us over like that.
Honestly, I would have rather stayed with numeric grades anyway.
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MSUCOM P/F. 90% and above in most classes for honors.
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DMU:
M1 & 2 years; Numerical grades w/ no curve
M3 & 4 years; Pass/fail
M1 & 2 years; Numerical grades w/ no curve
M3 & 4 years; Pass/fail
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I can only speak for years one and two....USArmyDoc said:
raw number grades at pcom....ie you get exactly what you earn......no true curve but individual questions can get thrown out if a certain percentage of students (determined by the administration) does poorly on them and there is a formal system for students to challenge questions if you think your answers are correct even though the teacher designated a different answer as the best answer. Challenges have to be backed up by citing a credible source (ie text book, journal, etc). I think it is a very fair system.
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USArmyDoc said:
Years 3&4 are High Pass, Pass, Fail based on evaluation and test at the end of the rotation. High Pass becomes Honors Pass with preceptor recommendation.
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Its not that bad man....the number grade you get really means jack $hit b/c we aren't individually ranked. We are put into quintiles (ie the class is around 250 so we get ranked into 5 groups of around 50)...it's basically the same thing as honors/high pass/pass/etc in the end. Your actual numerical gpa from the 1st two years really doesn't count for much in the end.USArmyDoc said:
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UMDNJ-SOM
OMS-1-4 as far as I know
Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail
hmm sounds like A/B/C/D/F doesn't it (yeah we know)
curves are only implemented if a test is determined to be poor after statistical analysis of the grades
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OMS-1-4 as far as I know
Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail
hmm sounds like A/B/C/D/F doesn't it (yeah we know)
curves are only implemented if a test is determined to be poor after statistical analysis of the grades
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KCUMB has A,B,C, F along with +/- of each grade too. They assign these grades per section based on a curve, although if you receive at least 70% of the total points, you automatically pass. The question is how the class did as an average and your letter grade will depend on that. For instance, techniically, a raw score of 70% is a C-, but if the class as a whole had a lower average, this could mean your raw score of 70% might be a C or a C+. Grade points are assigned to each letter grade and you are given a GPA. Then, they give you a class rank at the end of each semester. I'm not sure though if these are just for in-house information or if this is used when applying for residencies and such.
Can't speak about 3rd or 4th year though. Don't know much about how these years are graded.
Can't speak about 3rd or 4th year though. Don't know much about how these years are graded.
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Kubed said:
At Touro-MI, they do straight numbers. Some classes have a translation curve (not a bell curve). They take the percentage and calculate a GPA from it to rank you.
Anything below a 70% is a U.
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Wow, that's really interesting. I had no idea that we had two different grading systems. One of the things that brought me to Touro NV was the promise that we would be our own school and pioneer our own ideas. Now I'm finding out that we're really under the thumb of the MI school, who is in turn under the thumb of the New York. I've seen the resistance we've faced in trying to establish and keep our own website, I can't believe they let us have two different grading systems.aphasia said:
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Here at COMP we get percentages, 0-100%. Anything below 70% is failing.
Same goes, unfortunately for third and fourth year rotations. Plus, they do an additional ******ed thing to it and tweak them with subcategories.
50% Rotation Evaluation
16.7% Shelf Exam
16.7% Didactic Participation
16.7% A mock physical exam relevant to the set of rotations we just completed.
Oh, and most of the time, our evaluators have no idea of the impact our evaluation has on our grade. Since we are graded by an extremely subjective criteria called the Reporter, Interpreter, Manager, Educator or RIME model, grading straight down the middle as what some evaluators do can be death to ever getting a respectable grade in any rotation, regardless of how hard you bust your a$$. They took most of the incentive to do well out of rotations because believe me, the last thing I thought I'd need to do is explain to a preceptor that I need a high score from them because of this extra crap, their true input being meaningless.
I don't know why they chose to do this during our year. We seem to be the guinea pigs for all of their failed experiments. Why? Because they are changing this ******ed system next year, so we will be the only ones to experience this nonsense.
Same goes, unfortunately for third and fourth year rotations. Plus, they do an additional ******ed thing to it and tweak them with subcategories.
50% Rotation Evaluation
16.7% Shelf Exam
16.7% Didactic Participation
16.7% A mock physical exam relevant to the set of rotations we just completed.
Oh, and most of the time, our evaluators have no idea of the impact our evaluation has on our grade. Since we are graded by an extremely subjective criteria called the Reporter, Interpreter, Manager, Educator or RIME model, grading straight down the middle as what some evaluators do can be death to ever getting a respectable grade in any rotation, regardless of how hard you bust your a$$. They took most of the incentive to do well out of rotations because believe me, the last thing I thought I'd need to do is explain to a preceptor that I need a high score from them because of this extra crap, their true input being meaningless.
I don't know why they chose to do this during our year. We seem to be the guinea pigs for all of their failed experiments. Why? Because they are changing this ******ed system next year, so we will be the only ones to experience this nonsense.
