3.71sGPA 3.91cGPA 32 MCAT (re-taking this May) Please Help!

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**Made the mistake of posting in the wrong forum because I'm not really familiar with SDN but after the responses I dont think there's a need to post again.
Thanks to everyone who took my message seriously and gave advice. Everyone else, I wish you all the best.
 
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but really,
post here
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/what-are-my-chances.418/

Add Cooper Medical School for another in-state option as well
 
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If your gpa and mcat are "disappointing", mine are straight up horrendous.

In all reality, I think you have great ECs though. The organization where you received that 10k award is really darn neat and will probably impress a lot of adcoms. You should apply really broadly and not be afraid to include a couple upper tier reaches.

Finally, be really careful on your retake. You have outstanding science scores ( 13 and 12) so you don't want them to drop only to get an 8 or 9 on verbal. Good luck though! Verbal is the worst.
 
🤣<--- my initial response

My response after trying to sympathize: Ok. I guess some people will have better GPAs and MCAT scores than you. But you're going to get in somewhere, especially with those ECs. I think they're very strong and you will have a lot to discuss in your interviews. You do not have to retake the MCAT, but obviously scoring better will only help you. Do not worry about the 1 W. I have friends who got into top 10s with W's and one who withdrew for an entire semester due to illness (thats 5 Ws, if you can believe it).
 
message me your name since you obv go to rutgers and teach for golfetti. I have done the same.
 
your gpa is awesome, your mcat score is great. there are starving premeds in everywhere including suburban neighborhoods that would do anything for a score like that. I will never understand this level of perfectionism. If it helps you achieve things major props, but really this seems more masochistic than anything.
 
Also your ECs are extremely good. Have a glass of wine, relax and just apply you're going to get into a good md school no doubts about it.
 
There's a lot of ridiculous answers in this thread. The OP's GPA is good and overall MCAT is good, however the 7 will hold her back. I think retaking is a good decision. Bringing the verbal up to a 9 or 10 is important. If you can hold the rest about steady or even if your BS+PS comes down a point overall, you should be in good shape provided you hit atleast a 9 in VR.

I hope you've been practicing timed passages and getting things together. Good luck!
 
ridethecliche said:
There's a lot of ridiculous answers in this thread. The OP's GPA is good and overall MCAT is good, however the 7 will hold her back. I think retaking is a good decision. Bringing the verbal up to a 9 or 10 is important. If you can hold the rest about steady or even if your BS+PS comes down a point overall, you should be in good shape provided you hit atleast a 9 in VR.

I hope you've been practicing timed passages and getting things together. Good luck!
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the thing is the verbal reasoning passage section's scoring is really flawed. if you have a bad day on one passage that's enough to drop you 4 points and the aamcs tests are the only things that really provide you adequate prep for verbal on the real deal.
 
mrh125 said:
the thing is the verbal reasoning passage section's scoring is really flawed. if you have a bad day on one passage that's enough to drop you 4 points and the aamcs tests are the only things that really provide you adequate prep for verbal on the real deal.
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That's besides the point. You practice so you don't have a bad day. I think EK and TPR was also great prep for verbal. Those resources helped me increase my score and be more consistent.
 
ridethecliche said:
That's besides the point. You practice so you don't have a bad day. I think EK and TPR was also great prep for verbal. Those resources helped me increase my score and be more consistent.
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I got into a fender bender on my way to sit for my MCAT examination. Are you suggesting that all of the practice tests I took should have prevented that? People have bad days, and they can be for any number of reasons. End of story.
 
ridethecliche said:
That's besides the point. You practice so you don't have a bad day. I think EK and TPR was also great prep for verbal. Those resources helped me increase my score and be more consistent.
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but with i brought up there's also the law of diminishing returns. ifyou already used most resources once and some aren't comparable to the real deal there's only so much you can do.
 
Jeez, people seem to have an excuse and answer for everything. I certainly don't remember this place being quite so bad a couple of years ago when I posted more regularly...

bakedbeans18 said:
I got into a fender bender on my way to sit for my MCAT examination. Are you suggesting that all of the practice tests I took should have prevented that? People have bad days, and they can be for any number of reasons. End of story.
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That also has nothing to do with anything... And yeah, I was clearly implying that practice exams help with your driving. Because that's what a rational person would have gleaned from what I wrote.

If you were that out of it before your test, you should have known to cancel it and take it a different time. Or if you didn't do that, then the other option is to pull yourself together and calm down and get in the zone to take the test.

I've been crashed out while warming up for a bike race, cleaned up my bleeding leg with paper towels since the race officials had absolutely no first aid, and then lined up and raced anyway since that's what I was there to do. I did fine.
 
ridethecliche said:
Jeez, people seem to have an excuse and answer for everything. I certainly don't remember this place being quite so bad a couple of years ago when I posted more regularly...



That also has nothing to do with anything... And yeah, I was clearly implying that practice exams help with your driving. Because that's what a rational person would have gleaned from what I wrote.

If you were that out of it before your test, you should have known to cancel it and take it a different time. Or if you didn't do that, then the other option is to pull yourself together and calm down and get in the zone to take the test.

I've been crashed out while warming up for a bike race, cleaned up my bleeding leg with paper towels since the race officials had absolutely no first aid, and then lined up and raced anyway since that's what I was there to do. I did fine.
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Thanks for the advice, but you'll understand if I'd prefer it from someone that's gotten into medical school.
Please tell me you didn't just compare falling off your bike to a car accident.
Not everyone has the money to just piss away, cancelling an exam. I sat for the exam, didn't do as well as I had done on my practice tests, but I still got into medical school. The point was that there are elements beyond your control on test day, and people can still have a bad day no matter how prepared they are for the exam. Save your nonsense about what a 'rational person' would do for someone else.
 
bakedbeans18 said:
Thanks for the advice, but you'll understand if I'd prefer it from someone that's gotten into medical school.
Please tell me you didn't just compare falling off your bike to a car accident.
Not everyone has the money to just piss away, cancelling an exam. I sat for the exam, didn't do as well as I had done on my practice tests, but I still got into medical school. The point was that there are elements beyond your control on test day, and people can still have a bad day no matter how prepared they are for the exam. Save your nonsense about what a 'rational person' would do for someone else.
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Last time I checked, fender bender is understood as minor accidents that dents your bumper. You probably didn't need any medical attention while he had a bloody leg.

**** happens in life, rarely do things go perfectly and you deal with it. Tons of people probably wished they gotten more sleep the night before the exam but couldn't because of anxiety. Nobody ever use it as a legitimate excuse. I'm sure you didn't try to explain away your MCAT score during your interview by saying that you got into an accident the day of your test.

MCAT is like 90% knowledge and 10% luck. If you studied enough, even if you get the crappiest luck that day, you should still do well.

@mrh125 going from an 11 to 7 is 10-12 questions wrong. That's equivalent of purely guessing two entire passages. That's a lot to chalk up to bad day.
 
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bakedbeans18 said:
Thanks for the advice, but you'll understand if I'd prefer it from someone that's gotten into medical school.
Please tell me you didn't just compare falling off your bike to a car accident.
Not everyone has the money to just piss away, cancelling an exam. I sat for the exam, didn't do as well as I had done on my practice tests, but I still got into medical school. The point was that there are elements beyond your control on test day, and people can still have a bad day no matter how prepared they are for the exam. Save your nonsense about what a 'rational person' would do for someone else.
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Haha, I've missed the hyper stressed out pre-meds on this forum. Pulling the med school card. Whaddupppp!

Your advice is related to the MCAT, which people can do well on before they get into med school or even if they don't apply. I did well enough on the test to speak my mind and I went up by 4 points on my retake.

I'm glad that you got into med school even though you didn't do as well as you did on your practice exams. The advice I was always given on here was that you do +/- 2 pts from your average. My score was in that realm both times I took the test.

chenzt said:
Last time I checked, fender bender is understood as minor accidents that dents your bumper. You probably didn't need any medical attention while he had a bloody leg.

**** happens in life, rarely do things go perfectly and you deal with it. Tons of people probably wished they gotten more sleep the night before the exam but couldn't because of anxiety. Nobody ever use it as a legitimate excuse. I'm sure you didn't try to explain away your MCAT score during your interview by saying that you got into an accident the day of your test.

MCAT is like 90% knowledge and 10% luck. If you studied enough, even if you get the crappiest luck that day, you should still do well.

Going from an 11 to 7 is 10-12 questions wrong. That's equivalent of purely guessing two entire passages. That's a lot to chalk up to bad day.
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This.

I work with surgeons, do you know what happens if they're having a ****ty day and have a bunch of cases that day? Actually nothing happens because if they go through with scheduled cases they clear their mind before they enter the OR because otherwise bad things happen. It's important for doctors, of all professions, to be able to do this. No one in your residency interview is going to care if you got into a fender bender before your boards. You have to learn to put that stuff out of your head and go on with your day. If you decide to go through with the test anyway, then that's on you. Use your judgement to determine if you should or not.

And yes, a fender bender, by definition, is an accident that is minor and causes more annoyance than damage.
 
orangeman25 said:
If your gpa and mcat are "disappointing", mine are straight up horrendous.

In all reality, I think you have great ECs though. The organization where you received that 10k award is really darn neat and will probably impress a lot of adcoms. You should apply really broadly and not be afraid to include a couple upper tier reaches.

Finally, be really careful on your retake. You have outstanding science scores ( 13 and 12) so you don't want them to drop only to get an 8 or 9 on verbal. Good luck though! Verbal is the worst.
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Totally agree. Those science scores are great. I wouldn't retake unless I were really confident that my verbal would significantly improve without lowering the science scores. Your GPA is crazy high. I would definitely not worry if I were you. Great work! :highfive:
 
correct me if i'm wrong, but don't some schools screen out if your verbal score is below 8?
 
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