5-year OMFS

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What are the five-year OMFS residencies? Do you guys know if there are more of them scheduled to open? Seems like this would be a good idea, considering 4th year of med school is mostly a waste, and the second year is debatable.
 
White Zin said:
What are the five-year OMFS residencies? Do you guys know if there are more of them scheduled to open? Seems like this would be a good idea, considering 4th year of med school is mostly a waste, and the second year is debatable.

Case western and Nebraska are the only two... the amount on medical school you have to take depends on the medical school administration. I didnt apply to Case, but did interview at Nebraska's program. I thought it was an excellent program. I ranked my program ahead of it based on the training experience, rather than taking one less year. In my opinion, it is not worth sacrificing training for one less year or the lure of a resident stipend while in med school. The 5 year programs and the programs which pay you all 6 years are popular and competetive. Some offer great training, while others are mediocre. You only get to train once, and learning thru CE courses is expensive and difficult.
 
Case Western has lost Powers, the only well known surgeon at the program. I hear that they are having problems. This is all hear say, due to the fact that I did not apply to Case.
Nebraska is an excellent program. You get a fantastic training with a great group of guys. Miloro is well published and a great guy in my opinion. An attending at my D. school said that Miloro is one of the sharpest surgeons in the nation. He was the editor of Peterson's OMS volumes.
Nebraska ranked very high on my list.
 
Battlesign said:
Case Western has lost Powers, the only well known surgeon at the program. I hear that they are having problems. This is all hear say, due to the fact that I did not apply to Case.

I interviewed at CWRU OMFS this year and I thought they were a pretty decent program! A little low on trauma, but enough to be exposed to all aspects of it. Very strong in dental implants, the first-year guys placed 30+ implants in a month at the VA hospital! The medical school is top 15 in the country according to US NEWS rankings. Although Powers went to private practice, the residency director and the Dean of the dental school (former department chair, Goldberg) is holding up the program is fine. Great group of guys there at CWRU in my opinion, I had a chance to hang out and partied with them during my interview stay. Decent stipends all 5 years and it's only 5 years, can't beat that!

I liked CWRU OMFS a lot and I ranked them as my #2!

I also heard that Nebraska's OMFS curriculum is based off of CWRU's OMFS curriculum.
 
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Case western and Nebraska are the only two... the amount on medical school you have to take depends on the medical school administration. I didnt apply to Case, but did interview at Nebraska's program. I thought it was an excellent program. I ranked my program ahead of it based on the training experience, rather than taking one less year. In my opinion, it is not worth sacrificing training for one less year or the lure of a resident stipend while in med school. The 5 year programs and the programs which pay you all 6 years are popular and competetive. Some offer great training, while others are mediocre. You only get to train once, and learning thru CE courses is expensive and difficult.

When I interviewed at Nebraska's program a couple of years ago they refused to show me the programs procedure numbers--that's a red flag in my opinion. I ended up sweet talking a certain office person there to print them off for me anyways...trauma is definately weak...less than 50 mandible fractures per year.
 
Six plus year bump here, sorry... but at least it's indicative of my use of the Search function before creating a new thread.

My question: How many five-year OMS programs are out there? I know Case Western is but I couldn't find any other program with this arrangement. Also, why aren't there more five-year programs? It seems like a good setup.
 
Well, if you take a look at Nebraska's program history on their website, they've transitioned back to a six year track. I'd guess the most likely reason for that is that they felt it was either too compressed and hectic for the residents, or just simply that the training was insufficient relative to the six year tracks out there.
 
Well, if you take a look at Nebraska's program history on their website, they've transitioned back to a six year track. I'd guess the most likely reason for that is that they felt it was either too compressed and hectic for the residents, or just simply that the training was insufficient relative to the six year tracks out there.

It was not because training was insufficient. But, with the additional year, the training has expanded significantly. Anesthesia rotation mandate of 5 months from 4 months affected their rotation schedule and forced them to add an additional year.
 
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