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Its definitely EC, but I don't think teaching classes would be clinical... I think LizzyM's signature says something like: "If you're close enough to smell the patient, its clinical experience"
Even though it sounds funny, I think thats a good way of looking at it....
Have you talked to the clinic director and explained why its important for you to get patient contact? Maybe you can work something out. Another option may be to look for a free clinic that isn't utilized as a teaching center for medical students and residents. My area in NC has at least 6 in the area that are close enough for me to drive to. Check here: http://www.freeclinics.us/freeclinic.php
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the teaching classes wouldn't exactly be clinical, but it seems like a good EC. 🙂 sure you cant still keep doing the eye exams?
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If you are teaching health or exercise classes to patients, then you are part of a team helping them to realize a therapeutic goal as recommended by their physician. I think it is a clinical experience. It is teaching, too. It is also a community service. It is not shadowing; I'd keep separate track of the time you devote to purely physician shadowing, as you'd list it separately when it's not part of scribing for a doc or similiar.
As LizzyM says, if you are close enough to smell the patient, then it's clinical experience.
Just keep track of the types of tasks you performed so you can include this into the EC description section of amcas. But, I don't think you necessarily have to keep track of hours doing each task as long as it is with the same clinic.
Just keep track of the types of tasks you performed so you can include this into the EC description section of amcas. But, I don't think you necessarily have to keep track of hours doing each task as long as it is with the same clinic.
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Does clinical experience have to be VOLUNTEERING? for example, I have a research job, where I videotape babies being immunized in a Pediatrician's office. I basically am in the room with the doctor and patients, and go through their entire visit with them, videotaping it. I get to see everything, communicate with patients (collect data), and communicate with the Pediatrician and staff. I am putting this down as research, because I don't have any other research...However, hopefully, you guys will agree, that is very much like shadowing (because I get to ask the doctor afterwards specifics about the patients that just came) and clinical experience (paid).
So does it matter that I am classifying it as research? Because after reading the description, ADCOMs would be able to tell that its also clinical and like shadowing. Or am I just wishing for too much? lol
Thanks! 🙂
So does it matter that I am classifying it as research? Because after reading the description, ADCOMs would be able to tell that its also clinical and like shadowing. Or am I just wishing for too much? lol
Thanks! 🙂
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Many activities turn out to be double or triple dippers. It's important for you to include in your description of the activity that 10% of the involved hours were actually shadowing alone, that 80% was shadowing while you were involved in data collection, and that 10% was research alone when the doc wasn't present when you interacted directly with the patient, and thus was clinical experience (or something to this effect). I agree, it should be classified as research, even though it is a source of clinical experience and shadowing as well.
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What's the best kind? Does it matter the type?
How many hours should a person get for admission?
I'm unemployed right now and would like to just get a job in a clinic, what would you all recommend? (and this still qualifies, even if you're paid, correct?).
What IS the most important EC for admission into med school? Clinical, research, or shadowing? What about other types of volunteering?
How many hours should a person get for admission?
I'm unemployed right now and would like to just get a job in a clinic, what would you all recommend? (and this still qualifies, even if you're paid, correct?).
What IS the most important EC for admission into med school? Clinical, research, or shadowing? What about other types of volunteering?
Look for stuff that sets you apart. Clinical volunteering and shadowing are great, but I sincerely doubt that adcoms look at them as something that prepares you to be a doctor. They are there to distinguish you from people who don't care enough. People who got excellent grades and maybe applied to med school because it seemed like the thing to do. If these unspoken requirements weren't there, there would be way more throwaway applications for adcoms to sort through. In that respect ANY volunteering is good, and turning in a well-rounded application is good too. There are an awful lot of bio majors with an awful lot of clinical volunteering who are awfully awkward when it comes to real-life situations. Nothing wrong with being a bit different as long as you're not TOO different.
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If you gain clinical experience through the workplace or with clinical research, you still need to cover the expectation for community service.
As a general goal, try to get 150 hours over 1.5 years (about 3-4 hours per week during the school semesters). Longevity of experience is more important than intense hours in a short timeframe.
Any position having face-to-face contact with sick people is fine.
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