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[inshanesworld]

Does GPA even matter at schools that only do Pass/Fail or High Pass/Pass/Fail etc? I don't see how a GPA could be calculated.

 

[gschl1234]

70 = repeat 1st yr at my school

Where do you go and what's passing at your school?

 

[DendriticCell]

there is a theory or formula by a great scientist, named albert

he said that "C = M.D."

and he didn't define where C is.. so ask your school dean 🙂

 

[W222]

75 sound a little high for passing, usually somewhere between 60-70 is passing at most schools. Where do you go that 75 is passing? If that is the case then there must be a considerable amount of grade inflation or the classes are easy, you cant expect to have 100% of your class get 75 or above. It just isnt realistic.

 

[Joe Joe on da Radio]

75 is pass here at UVM as well. 70-74 is a marginal pass and if a student receives 3 marginal passes, then they repeat the year. <70 is a fail.

 

[automaton]

75 sound a little high for passing, usually somewhere between 60-70 is passing at most schools. Where do you go that 75 is passing? If that is the case then there must be a considerable amount of grade inflation or the classes are easy, you cant expect to have 100% of your class get 75 or above. It just isnt realistic.

100% don't pass every time.

 

[W222]

What I meant was that at the end of the year your school must have several students who are staying in MS1? You dont have to be a bad student to get below 75%, you just have to be unlucky a couple times and you are screwed. That really sucks.

 

[automaton]

What I meant was that at the end of the year your school must have several students who are staying in MS1? You dont have to be a bad student to get below 75%, you just have to be unlucky a couple times and you are screwed. That really sucks.

one thing though is that my school has a fairly lenient policy regarding failures. you can re-take an exam once, and if you pass you're in the clear, as long as you fail less than 3 times. if you fail the re-take, you have to take it over during the summer. so there are a few steps before you'd have to retake the entire year.

 

[Discobolus]

Depending on the class the bare minimum for passing (albeit with a D) is between 60-70%. For classes like gross anatomy, biochemistry, and microanatomy where the questions are more of the memorize and regurgitate variety 70% is passing. For classes like physiology which require a bit more critical thinking 60% is passing. Neuroscience and cell biology fell between the 2 with 65% being passing. 90% was an A in most classes except for physiology where it was an 85.5%. Suprisingly there were more A's in classes like gross anatomy (90%) than in physiology.

Although 70 may be passing at my school it is not going to equal MD because you have to have at least a 1.5 GPA to not get expelled after the first year. If it's higher than that but you failed some classes you can retake them.

 

[Seaglass]

It is absolutely possible (statistically) for 100% to pass every time. THe question is whether you're grading on a curve or against a standard reference. For example, if passing is getting >75% of test questions right, it is certainly possible for everyone to do it. If passing is getting a score at or better than the 75%ile for the class (grading on a curve) then by definition 3/4 of the class will fail every time.

So there does not have to be any "grade inflation" to get a class past 75% if it refers to a standard reference. It just works.

C

 

[automaton]

If you go to a pass / no pass school then passing is good enough. If you have grades then I don't know. If you have something like Honors/Pass/Fail then it's obviously good to have a few honors but it's not required that you always have honors or even mostly honors. My school has Honors/HighPass/Pass/Fail... most people consider High Pass a reasonable goal, and that is I think 87%.

 

[Deuce 007 MD]

P=MD, pick a school that is pass/fail. What do you call the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class? answer doctor.

 

[souljah1]

70% is pass here and if someone fails an exam they just have to take an exam on those topics again. Nobody repeats first year unless they choose to do so.

 

[Sweet Tea]

Hello, I'm the original Poster. Can someone address my question, I ask it a second time about what is considered a "strong gpa" for med school, in general terms. I understand specifics depend on your school. Do you suck with a gpa in the 80 85 range or suck in the 86 to 88 range? Read my previous post.

I think you've answered your own question...it depends on the school. judging from the posts here, an 85 may be an A at one school where an 85 is a B at another school. We have a 10-point scale at my school, and if you get below a 70 in any class you fail, and we do not have a curve. If the class average is a 71, then the class average is a 71 and lots of people failed. However, at my boyfriends school (which uses an honors/highpass/pass/fail system), a passing grade is often in the lower 60s and a high pass is given to the top 5% of students. So there's a great deal of variation between schools and it's not useful to say that an 85 at one school is going to mean the same thing as an 85 at another school.

 

[JohnnyVegas]

Obviously, the school isn't going to flunk a large number of the student body and the test difficulty is adjusted toward that goal. The competing goal is not to promote too many that will flunk the USMLE and drag down the schools step pass rate. Percentage on tests at various schools and classes with different levels of difficulty is pretty meaningless without being qualified within the frame of a standardized reference............

 

[gschl1234]

Hello, I'm the original Poster. Can someone address my question, I ask it a second time about what is considered a "strong gpa" for med school, in general terms. I understand specifics depend on your school. Do you suck with a gpa in the 80 85 range or suck in the 86 to 88 range? Read my previous post.

I guess I'm very confused by your question. I'm pretty sure my med school doesn't have a GPA per se. I don't think they have something on a 4 point scale if that's what you're getting at. I've heard that med schools that actually give letter grades have GPAs but aren't most schools now P/F, H/P/F? Do schools that are H/P/F have GPAs? That's what my school is and I assumed that they can't equate it on a 4 point scale because there just aren't enough tiers...it would equate to A/C/F but what if you had almost an A? They wouldn't give Bs so you'd end up with a 2.0 and that would hardly seem fair. It just doesn't make sense and now I'm rambling. Can someone address this?

 

[16846]

I think you've answered your own question...it depends on the school. judging from the posts here, an 85 may be an A at one school where an 85 is a B at another school. We have a 10-point scale at my school, and if you get below a 70 in any class you fail, and we do not have a curve. If the class average is a 71, then the class average is a 71 and lots of people failed. However, at my boyfriends school (which uses an honors/highpass/pass/fail system), a passing grade is often in the lower 60s and a high pass is given to the top 5% of students. So there's a great deal of variation between schools and it's not useful to say that an 85 at one school is going to mean the same thing as an 85 at another school.

What is a "10-point scale"? 100 <- 0 @ 10 point intervals? I haven't encountered this before.

 

[Sweet Tea]

What is a "10-point scale"? 100 <- 0 @ 10 point intervals? I haven't encountered this before.

A: 100-90
B: 80-89
C: 70-79
F: 69 and below

We're never graded on a curve...if the entire class fails, then the entire class fails. If the entire class makes a 94, then everyone gets an A. It's nice because I am never competeing against my classmates for a grade, and you know exactly what is expected of you.

 

[Carbon]

A: 100-90
B: 80-89
C: 70-79
F: 69 and below

We're never graded on a curve...if the entire class fails, then the entire class fails. If the entire class makes a 94, then everyone gets an A. It's nice because I am never competeing against my classmates for a grade, and you know exactly what is expected of you.

My school is the same way. 👍 Though it'd be less stressful to just be pass/fail...... *dreams*

 

[Sweet Tea]

My school is the same way. 👍 Though it'd be less stressful to just be pass/fail...... *dreams*

In ST's perfect world, the first 2 years at ALL med schools are just P/F b/c in ST's perfect world, it's silly to compete for grades during your science years...if you want to shine, shine clinically. That's where it matters.

Also in my perfect world, chocolate forms the base of the food pyramid. 😉

 

[azzarah]

Maybe if your school has a class rank, look at that. My school doesn't have a GPA, but I think we get class ranks after 1st, 2nd, and 4th yr.

 

[s137mack]

At our school, our GPA must be maintained at a 2.8. They moved it down from a 3.0 because about a third of our class had to repeat a year. We are still losing lots of students and it really sucks. We are a 6-year med program, so maybe that is the reason.