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Today is my day back home prior to leaving again for 2 more interviews. I was supposed to interview in Iowa and Kansas City on consecutive days. Mother nature thought otherwise! I flew into KC on Wednesday around mid day, and drove the long boring drive to Iowa City which was about 5 hours. The drive ended as a big snow fall was starting so I avoided the worst of it that day. But when I woke up, there was about 5" of fresh dry powder on the ground. I had to spend 30 minutes sweeping away the snow on a path to my car so that my suit and shoes would not get screwed up. It was fun though. Then when I made it to the University of Iowa Hospital and I was amazed at how nice it was. 5 hours into the middle of nowhere sat one of Americas nicest college campuses, with the huge hospital complex sitting right next to the football stadium.

The program really impressed me because it was the first place that I had actually met the department chairman, not just the residency coordinator. This guy really knows how to get a new program up and running because the kinks seem to either never have existed or were worked out beautifully. He met with the 4 of us interviewing for almost half an hour, and really talked about the research component of the program. I have never been big into research, but the stuff he was talking about interested me greatly. Being an ex military guy like he, I could tell that he was one of those guys that would go to bat for you and carry a real freaking heavy stick! And at 6 foot 6" or so with hands the size of small 1970's Volkswagons, I see why the other services get along so well with him!

After meeting him, we moved on to our 4 interviews. My first was with an RN who is an integral part of the department. She has been there the longest and it shows why the department is so well received by the lifers in the institution. They also have PA's who see patients in the ED as well and this seems to be a great working environment that values all roles. This interview was very casual and more a get to know you conversation than anything else. She did ask me one question that was structured and it was about how I would handle a situation regarding a nurse taking my orders to an attending to change them without coming to me first. My next interview was with the program director. Once I met this guy I knew that this was a very special place. I have already met good PD's, but this guy was sort of the equivilant of the 29 year old Army Major who got promoted very fast. He is probably only mid thirties if that, and he is a well dressed, articulate, intellectually top knotch guy. He is dual boarded in IM and EM, and he is from SoCal of all places. If I did not mention it before, the chairman of the EM department is from Boston, and so you have the leadership with two different spheres of EM training. This is great for future networking as often times you are limited to the geography of a program in terms of job searches (because new programs have no grads US wide yet to assist you). This is a big plus for this new program.

My next interview was with a resident who is their only chief and 3rd year because he was previously trained as a Peds doc before coming. So he had a little more advanced standing than other residents. He was absolutely without a doubt the most kind, down to earth resident I have met along the trail. He complimented many of the details deep within my application so I knew he had prepared for the interview. I can say the same thing for every person I interviewed with in Iowa City. It was scary almost because they would talk about things as if they had known me a really long time. The tactic paid off because I was impressed. The resident and I just talked so he could sell the place. And sell he did! I was very happy to spend this time with him so that I could get answers to many of my questions. My last interview was with a DO who is tghe assistant residency director. He was very nice and prepared as well, and he showed their liberal side with his gold hoop earring in his left ear. I figured he could see the long time whole in my ear as well from years back (one thing you can never hide once you have had one). If nothing more, this showed to me that the PD and chair are open minded people and I want to be around people of many different personalities. I am a middle of the road kind of political ideologist, and thus its nice to have liberal and conservative types around because I certainly can't fit simply into one camp.

At the end of the interview, all the applicants left but I stayed behind to talk to some of the residents longer. I was amazed to see how much experience was among these guys. Several (probably half) of the residents were boarded in other specialties already, mostly FM. So I got the impression that this was quite possibly the only program where I could walk in and feel like my 3rd years would always know more than me in virtually every situation. Sometimes knowing as much or more than the uper levels in areas not related to EM is a bit awkward, but with these guys they have way more experience in FM than I do. After all, I was just a PA in FM and they were docs. So that experience is a unique twist to this program and one that brings more training to the entering class of 2006. Its just unheard of to have this much supervisory knowledge from upper levels and I for one consider it a benefit like few others.

When I finally decided to leave, I realized that the travel to KC would be virtually impossible for me with the roads the way they were. I had already nearly run into someone's house on the way to the hospital and slid all the way through one traffic light. So I decided to stay an extra night in Iowa City and it happened to work out because they were having a dinner for the applicants that previously I would have had to miss. I cancelled my next morning's interview at Truman and will reschedule later.

I ended up being invited to stay with the resident who interviewed me. He and his wife (an OBGYN in her ReproEndo fellowship) gave me their basement which was very nice and cozy. That brings me to the part about Iowa City in general. The town is truly an incredible city that you would never guess was in Iowa if you were dropped there after being blindfolded and sedated for several hours prior. You would think you had woke up in some culturally rich, quite beautiful, college towns like maybe Raleigh or Durham North Carolina. The people were all incredibly friendly and the downtown was full of good restaurants, good coffee houses, and typical college pubs. They have a great mall with a children's museum, and they have lots of outdoor activities on the Iowa River which runs through the campus. It was definitely cold while I was there but surprisingly tolerable. If I had to say there was a downside it might be the fact that there are 4 months that you have to drive daily to Cedar Rapids for your community EM rotation, and those months are 12 hour shifts...around 20 of them I was told. So after the drive back and forth, and the turnover, you are really putting in like 20, 14 hour shifts. But they say the rotation is incredible.

EMS is huge here. The entire state sends people to train as paramedics and EMT's here in the EM department and they employ several who run simulator labs for the trainees and residents. They have their own flight program as well, and residents fly all the time.

Last big perk...you get to moonlight while having your feet on the wood floor at the UI basketball games, and you have full field access at UI football games. All this for 50 bucks an hour....sure......force me to do it!!

Bottom line...I think this place has been overlooked by many because of the location, but in actuality you are only about 2.5 hours from Chicago. The schools here are the best in the nation for public schools, and the cost of living for this quality of a college town is very reasonable. And lastly, they pay full health coverage for all members of your family including spouses and kids, and you never pay a copay or script EVER! No place has this kind of a deal that I know of! If you are married with kids, you would be a fool not to apply to this program. And being on an undergraduate campus with thousands of single people can't be too bad for the "single young doctor" either 🙂 This place will be very high on my list I can promise. The only places I see comparing to this place might be Mayo, Duke, Indy, and Tech. But you never know what lies ahead, because I have been way more impressed with every place I have been thus far. I am hoping to have a few dissappointing places in the coming weeks otherwise this is going to be an incredibly difficult decision in the end!

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I'll bite...location had zero to do with it!! And I can back it up by saying that of my top 5 ranked programs, I had never been to any one of those cities prior to the interview!! I cast my net far and wide on the initial application because I wanted to get a diverse group of interviews, and that is exactly what I got. I have to admit that I was mesmorized by 2 places early on that both had solid, proven programs with infrastructure to make the executive department pale in comparrison. But funny enough I moved both those top 2 programs up and down my list often before ROL day because I didn't have a great feel for either of them. I was just captured by their mystique. Luckily, God willing, I did not match at either of these places and I ended up at my 3rd of 15 programs ranked, the University of Iowa. This program ranked between 1st and 4th my entire interview season and up until the day before ROL I had it first. My instincts told me to try for the top 2 programs (very tough programs to get into these days), and my heart was with my 3rd. Iowa was my only true 2nd look where I took the wife and made a weekend of it, and was in the ED a shift. These are the things abuot U-Iowa that should have led be to keep it ranked first:

1) Best people I met anywhere, so kind, outgoing yet reserved, humble
2) Incredible PC, PD, and chair
3) Many residents were boarded already in FM, my former specialty
4) This city is amazing, a cultural mix with a small town/city feel and a major university campus to keep you feeling young.
5) Sports, outdoors, cost of living, best schools in the nation for kids
6) Proximity to Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Louis, and Madison
7) Some place new and vibrant, but with 4 seasons...especially snow!!
8) New program with the most potential of all new programs I saw.
9) Brand new ED facility soon to be finished and should be awesome!!
10) Carver College of Medicine is a top 10 medical school in the US, great faculty across specialties
11) Iowa is a very DO friendly state
12) THE BEST SHIFTS OF EVERY PLACE I CHECKED....17/month, 3/4 of them are 9 hours and you have a few 12 hour shifts for weekends. It gives 2 full weekends off a month in the department, one being a 3 day weekend. Schedule a vacation day or 2 with that 3 days and now you have 5 days in a row off at the cost of 2!!!

Go Hawkeye's!!

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It seems odd that the last post is from 2005...anyone have anything else to say about Iowa? 😴
 
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I ended up spending my intern year there and transferring to Geisinger where I did my last 2 years. Both had their high points. I think Iowa had a sicker population and tended to have a very efficient system in general. Geisinger was a much older and more established program. I learned a lot of things in Iowa that I took with me as a 2nd year to Geisinger that really shaped me. All in all I had an incredible education at both and would certainly say they are both fabulous places. Iowa City is quite possibly the most surprisingly underrated cities with more culture and flavor than you could imagine. It's still on my list of places I would go back to if the situation was right.

I work in a level I trauma center now as an attending at a top 20 medical school, and even with huge volume and tons of trauma, I don't think my education was any less than what we offer.
 
I'm taking a look at this program. Anyone have anything to add or update? I would love to hear some recent responses on the program.
 
Anybody have any more recent information on this program?
 
any 4th years mind taking a break from vacation to put in some info here? There's no info on the website about shift length or number worked a month
 
Anyone from Iowa on these boards care to share a more current experience at this program. Would thank you lots for the advice.
 
Anyone from Iowa on these boards care to share a more current experience at this program. Would thank you lots for the advice.

Long-time listener, first-time caller. Currently an M4 at Iowa applying to EM, I can give you my take.

Faculty:

I have to mention faculty first because this is an awesome group. Extremely fun to work with, easy to get along with, great teachers. These are people with personalities that I enjoy being around. Very current on evidenced based emergency medicine. You'll interview with one of the assistant program directors, Dr. Runde; he is a major contributor to the blog NNT (http://www.thennt.com/about-thennt-team/) and MD calc, check it out. They have people who have trained at a wide variety of places. The faculty are the reason that I will be ranking Iowa in my top 3.

EM logistics:

There is no "pod" system to the ED. You can pick up patients of any acuity level at any time. I feel like we are well enough staffed with residents that it's never overwhelming but there is usually some red on the board. ED has admitting privilege to every service. The shifts are 9 hours but you sign out after 8 hours and work on notes/DC's for the last hour. I'm not 100% on the exact number of shifts the residents work by year but they are not overworked. I think most R3s would quote working around 50 hours per week.

Trauma:

Higher volume than you might expect. We get everything that happens within a fairly large radius. Lots of high mechanism interstate MVCs. Interesting fact: there is no helmet law for motorcycles in Iowa. EM handles airway, ultrasounds, and lines, trauma team does the assessment. When multiple traumas come in at once(which always happens with MVCs) EM will be doing the assessment on one of the traumas. Overall I think the set-up is fairly consistent for what you'll see at most academic centers.

Iowa City is a great town. It is the ideal college town. I live in a nice apartment nearby and can be inside the hospital 5 minutes after leaving my front door(via bike). Life is simple here but not slow. So many good restaurants. Plenty of downtown drinking establishments. The football team is 7-0, Go Hawks!
 
Long-time listener, first-time caller. Currently an M4 at Iowa applying to EM, I can give you my take.

Faculty:

I have to mention faculty first because this is an awesome group. Extremely fun to work with, easy to get along with, great teachers. These are people with personalities that I enjoy being around. Very current on evidenced based emergency medicine. You'll interview with one of the assistant program directors, Dr. Runde; he is a major contributor to the blog NNT (http://www.thennt.com/about-thennt-team/) and MD calc, check it out. They have people who have trained at a wide variety of places. The faculty are the reason that I will be ranking Iowa in my top 3.

EM logistics:

There is no "pod" system to the ED. You can pick up patients of any acuity level at any time. I feel like we are well enough staffed with residents that it's never overwhelming but there is usually some red on the board. ED has admitting privilege to every service. The shifts are 9 hours but you sign out after 8 hours and work on notes/DC's for the last hour. I'm not 100% on the exact number of shifts the residents work by year but they are not overworked. I think most R3s would quote working around 50 hours per week.

Trauma:

Higher volume than you might expect. We get everything that happens within a fairly large radius. Lots of high mechanism interstate MVCs. Interesting fact: there is no helmet law for motorcycles in Iowa. EM handles airway, ultrasounds, and lines, trauma team does the assessment. When multiple traumas come in at once(which always happens with MVCs) EM will be doing the assessment on one of the traumas. Overall I think the set-up is fairly consistent for what you'll see at most academic centers.

Iowa City is a great town. It is the ideal college town. I live in a nice apartment nearby and can be inside the hospital 5 minutes after leaving my front door(via bike). Life is simple here but not slow. So many good restaurants. Plenty of downtown drinking establishments. The football team is 7-0, Go Hawks!


Thank you so much for the information, Coe8. Very interested in Iowa. Heard it's a program on the rise. Best of luck to you this year.
 
Interesting fact: there is no helmet law for motorcycles in Iowa.

The governor at the time (about 25 years ago) vetoed the law and gave the reason that the state needed more organ donors.
 
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