91st Percentile on ADAT good enough for endo?

[nobeldds]

Just received my ADAT score 2 weeks after taking it. Scored 600 (91st percentile)
Trying to get into endo... 3.3 GPA, ranked 50/100 in dental school class, 2 years work experience, no research. Will this 91st % help me, hurt me or do nothing for my competitiveness? I hear so many mixed things... do I need to retake it and go for a cool 99 to make up for my class rank?

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[FutureDent020]

Just received my ADAT score 2 weeks after taking it. Scored 600 (91st percentile)
Trying to get into endo... 3.3 GPA, ranked 50/100 in dental school class, 2 years work experience, no research. Will this 91st % help me, hurt me or do nothing for my competitiveness? I hear so many mixed things... do I need to retake it and go for a cool 99 to make up for my class rank?

Definitely won’t hurt. Probably will help? You hear mixed things because no one really knows what part the ADAT plays. It’s still a new test and schools are constantly waivering on if they require it, are indifferent, or if they will even look at it. I had a colleague apply to Endo last year with a lower rank, GPA, no research and no ADAT. He/she still got into their school of choice by mid July. He/she had great experience and recommendations though. Point being, different programs will look for different things. Some just want to be confident that you can handle the academic load, others will want top academic minds.

 

[nobeldds]

Definitely won’t hurt. Probably will help? You hear mixed things because no one really knows what part the ADAT plays. It’s still a new test and schools are constantly waivering on if they require it, are indifferent, or if they will even look at it. I had a colleague apply to Endo last year with a lower rank, GPA, no research and no ADAT. He/she still got into their school of choice by mid July. He/she had great experience and recommendations though. Point being, different programs will look for different things. Some just want to be confident that you can handle the academic load, others will want top academic minds.

That’s good to know. Thank you. Your colleague who was accepted, what experience did she have? This is another point of confusion for me. Is there some type of work experience that is considered better than others? or this mostly determined by time/volume?

 

[FutureDent020]

Wish I had a more precise answer for you. Every program is different. Even when it comes to the experience they want. Time and volume sounds good, but if you have just been using waveOne for 3 years at your private practice with no guidance that’s not going to mean much. But if you have been working with different systems, taking Endo CE, reading journals, and working on understanding the procedure more than just completing it then you’re probably fine. Ideally Endo experience under some sort of endodontic mentor may be preferred e.g. GPR, AEGD, DS, or military. But it’s not necessary. Experience is just part of the application. Plenty of programs admit students right of dental school who show a high aptitude for Endo. You just need something to make you stand out a bit.

 

[Torshammer]

I am applying to endo as well this year. I think a 91st percentile is definitely competitive and would help distinguish you from other applicants. I am taking it soon and hope to do as well!

 

[hl13]

Can I ask, How long and how much did you study for it, nobeldds? And which material helped the most?

 

[shmebeble]

fewer than 400 ppl took the ADAT last year. Assuming percentiles stay constant- there are around 36 ppl who did better than you. Based on that info, do you think you need to retake it? Also anything over 600 will look great. I dont think a program director is differentiating between a 600 and 630 despite the 630 being 96th percentile (I think)

 

[nobeldds]

Wish I had a more precise answer for you. Every program is different. Even when it comes to the experience they want. Time and volume sounds good, but if you have just been using waveOne for 3 years at your private practice with no guidance that’s not going to mean much. But if you have been working with different systems, taking Endo CE, reading journals, and working on understanding the procedure more than just completing it then you’re probably fine. Ideally Endo experience under some sort of endodontic mentor may be preferred e.g. GPR, AEGD, DS, or military. But it’s not necessary. Experience is just part of the application. Plenty of programs admit students right of dental school who show a high aptitude for Endo. You just need something to make you stand out a bit.

thanks for the good information, I am submitting my application now. So we will see what happens!

I am applying to endo as well this year. I think a 91st percentile is definitely competitive and would help distinguish you from other applicants. I am taking it soon and hope to do as well!

Thanks!

Can I ask, How long and how much did you study for it, nobeldds? And which material helped the most?

I used quite a variety of materials. I didn't intend to, but I kept getting tired or frustrated with one source and moved on to another. I did not completely go through a single source but I spent time with First Aid books, Dental decks, and ADAT knockout. When I took the test, I was sure that I did poorly and expected to have to retake it. The questions covered a broad range of subjects. I don't really know what helped me do well.

fewer than 400 ppl took the ADAT last year. Assuming percentiles stay constant- there are around 36 ppl who did better than you. Based on that info, do you think you need to retake it? Also anything over 600 will look great. I dont think a program director is differentiating between a 600 and 630 despite the 630 being 96th percentile (I think)

I guess it doesn't sound too bad. Apparently, a 600 equates to 91-94th percentile depending on the year.