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[mangowolf]

bruh take the NYU 3 year path, sure you probably would able to match nsg from columbia but it would be a hell of a lot harder/less certain. go to NYU and do NOT look back

edit: every single con you listed for NYU with the exception of the diversity, no longer matters now that you have a guaranteed residency spot

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

If you want neurosurgery then go to NYU

From what I’ve seen, there is no such thing as a guaranteed neurosurgery match for anybody (aside from these programs of course). What if you get a <240 step II? What if a bunch of research projects go off course?

 

[JohnJacobJingleheimer]

As mentioned above, the majority of your cons for NYU are moot points, given that you have a guaranteed spot in NSGY at NYU.

Before I can give my opinion on the matter, there are two very important questions you must ask yourself:

1) Are you certain you want to stay in NYC for residency? You’re about to make ~10 year commitment to living there, so you want to be sure that it’s the place for you.

and, far, far more importantly

2) Are you absolutely, 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt positive that you want to do neurosurgery? Have you spent extensive time getting to understand each and every implication of choosing that as your career path? Neurosurgery is unlike many other specialties; it will not be your job, it will be your life. The best way to describe it is that neurosurgeons often refer to nsgy as their calling… again, it is not just a job. Are you certain it is your calling? Are you ready to give up time with your family? Are you willing to give up time for hobbies? Are you sure that being a neurosurgeon is far and away the most important thing in your life? Because if you do this and realize down the road you didn’t fully think this through, you will be a miserable, miserable person.

If you answered yes to both of these questions without hesitation, go to NYU. If you paused and had a creeping doubt come over you, go to Columbia and allow yourself a lifeline. I can imagine a 3 yr accelerated track will screw things up if you try to jump ship to another specialty. Let us know what you decide, I’m curious.

 

[4pf]

As mentioned above, the majority of your cons for NYU are moot points, given that you have a guaranteed spot in NSGY at NYU.

Before I can give my opinion on the matter, there are two very important questions you must ask yourself:

1) Are you certain you want to stay in NYC for residency? You’re about to make ~10 year commitment to living there, so you want to be sure that it’s the place for you.

and, far, far more importantly

2) Are you absolutely, 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt positive that you want to do neurosurgery? Have you spent extensive time getting to understand each and every implication of choosing that as your career path? Neurosurgery is unlike many other specialties; it will not be your job, it will be your life. The best way to describe it is that neurosurgeons often refer to nsgy as their calling… again, it is not just a job. Are you certain it is your calling? Are you ready to give up time with your family? Are you willing to give up time for hobbies? Are you sure that being a neurosurgeon is far and away the most important thing in your life? Because if you do this and realize down the road you didn’t fully think this through, you will be a miserable, miserable person.

If you answered yes to both of these questions without hesitation, go to NYU. If you paused and had a creeping doubt come over you, go to Columbia and allow yourself a lifeline. I can imagine a 3 yr accelerated track will screw things up if you try to jump ship to another specialty. Let us know what you decide, I’m curious.

1) I will enjoy the big city, but the cold I doubt I'll be a huge fan. Definitely will have to make a better appraisal when Im there, and one of my favorite parts of the 3 Year Program is that I can apply out to other residencies, and others have successfully done so. If I don't like NYC, I will likely leave for residency.

2) I can't see myself doing anything else. Giving up time for family/hobbies is something that I have considered, but as long as I pursue any surgical specialty, will there honestly be that much of a difference? I get the general consensus that residency is the most intense part of medical training. I will have to link my source later, but I found a survey of first year residents showing that ortho residents work 67.6 hours/week, nsgy residents 73.3 hours/week, and general surgery residents 73.9 hours/week. These are the specialties I recall off the top of my head. So aren't all surgical specialties a sacrifice?

 

[Dr Meow]

Omg. Take the guaranteed neurosurgery spot. how is this even a decision lol? That is if the guarantee is true.
In 10 years, let me worship your Godly callused feet when you stand for 48hrs surgeries when I become possibly a future poor neurologist barely making ends meet haha.
JK!!
But still what an insane opportunity you have if that guarantee is real.

 

[m1redsox]

If you want NSG, it would be completely crazy to give up a guaranteed, accelerated spot at a T20 program. Every extra year of attending-hood is half-a-million dollars in your pocket.

 

[hydroflaskhomie]

I think you gotta go NYU here. However, I believe in you if you want to go Columbia!