A doc told me that she's able to perform exams easier using DO knowledge.

[September24]

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A pretty simple title lol. But she said that her training in osteopathic medicine allows her to use her hands better and perform exams easier. I thought it was kind of cool. Does this sound logical to anyone? Any truth in this?

sorry of this is the wrong forum.

 

[AlteredScale]

A pretty simple title lol. But she said that her training in osteopathic medicine allows her to use her hands better and perform exams easier. I thought it was kind of cool. Does this sound logical to anyone? Any truth in this?

sorry of this is the wrong forum.

It probably helps with palpating and what not, you can tell when there's strains or what not. So it makes sense.

 

[Instatewaiter]

She has no basis for comaprison unless she was first an MD, went back to DO school and compared. Even then this would be confounded by the fact she had already some practical knowledge.

No one can answer this question but quite frankly it is kinda stupid as a comparison because there is not a whole lot on the physical examination that has reasonable positive or negative predictive value.

 

[September24]

She has no basis for comaprison unless she was first an MD, went back to DO school and compared. Even then this would be confounded by the fact she had already some practical knowledge.

No one can answer this question but quite frankly it is kinda stupid as a comparison because there is not a whole lot on the physical examination that has reasonable positive or negative predictive value.

Woah woah woah man. First, let me clarify that this in no way was meant to be md vs do. It's easy to interpret it is as so since we need something to compare it to but I wanna try to stop any comparison.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, could all the extra emphasis on neuromuscular systems and OMM provide help with the examination and make her better with hands. Or are they unrelated

 

[Stephanopolous]

There are many things that a physical exam finding can help to differentiate.

 

[Goro]

I think a better comparison would be to take her and 9 other DOs, and 10 MDs and have them examine the same set of patients, and compare results.

She has no basis for comaprison unless she was first an MD, went back to DO school and compared. Even then this would be confounded by the fact she had already some practical knowledge.

No one can answer this question but quite frankly it is kinda stupid as a comparison because there is not a whole lot on the physical examination that has reasonable positive or negative predictive value.

 

[kenjixshadow]

Two physicians were at a conference where their eyes locked.
Little was said, though after a few drinks and some dancing, they headed up to a hotel room for some fun.

After it was over, the guy said to the woman, "Are you a surgeon?"

She said, "Yes, how did you know?"

He replied, "Because you were so good with your hands."

She replied then asked, "Just kidding. I'm a DO. That's probably why...and let me guess, are you an anesthesiologist?"

He said, "Yes! How did you know?"

Her reply, "Because I didn't feel a thing!"

(I modified the original joke. Don't shoot me) 😛

 

[cliquesh]

I think it's reasonable to say that going to a osteopathic medical school will make you comfortable touching others. I don't know if that translates into better physical exams.

However, in OMM you will spend a lot of time palpating transverse processes and anatomic land marks, which I personally think has made it easier for me to do some procedures, like epidurals, lumbar punctures, chest tubes, etc. especially on patients with difficult anatomy.

 

[Instatewaiter]

There are many things that a physical exam finding can help to differentiate.

There are very few things that an exam can reliably predict which is why the physical exam has largely become a slave to imaging. The positive and negative predictive values for most of the most common things done on the physical exam are mediocre at best.

 

[Instatewaiter]

There are very few things that an exam can reliably predict which is why the physical exam has largely become a slave to imaging. The positive and negative predictive values for most of the most common things done on the physical exam are mediocre at best.

And don't even gets started on how physical skills have deteriorated making the exam for many completely worthless. Some physicians probably shouldn't even carry a stethoscope.

 

[ERK123]

And don't even gets started on how physical skills have deteriorated making the exam for many completely worthless. Some physicians probably shouldn't even carry a stethoscope.

Uh, doesn't this kinda support what OP is suggesting?

 

[Instatewaiter]

Uh, doesn't this kinda support what OP is suggesting?

Not when it's universal.