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Hard to predict but more than likely to go down. Depends on how the pie is carved up. The Canadian doctors and the California state employed doctors seem to do okay.
For many doctors in other countries it has to do with mentality, right? People go into the field knowing what their salary will be and live their life “as if”. This first big hurdle here would be convincing doctors, mostly specialist, to take that pay cut and change their lifestyle.

Also, I havent researched this statement, but I feel like when all is said and done the full bill for a medical education (including college) is cheaper
 
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For many doctors in other countries it has to do with mentality, right? People go into the field knowing what their salary will be and live their life “as if”. This first big hurdle here would be convincing doctors, mostly specialist, to take that pay cut and change their lifestyle.

Also, I have researched this statement, but I feel like when all is said and done the full bill for a medical education (including college) is cheaper
Hard to predict but more than likely to go down. Depends on how the pie is carved up. The Canadian doctors and the California state employed doctors seem to do okay.

depends on what is meant by do okay... the uber driver looks fine too when i see him in the car...

if i take a 50% pay cut, its not like i wont be able to put food on the table or downsize back to a studio... but it'll feel like a further kick in the face after having to do all this training, and grueling work, that my non medical colleagues did not have to do, and still come out ahead. then it becomes the worst decision of all time, to go into medicine.
 
Actually i looked it up cause i was curious
for 2022
Maximum cost for premium only not including deductible
Medicare part a 499/month
part b 578/month
part c depends on plan
part d is 78$ plus premium

thats 13860 per year per person on medicare A B D (not including premium price for part D which is likely another 1k+ per year)!!

i find it crazy that medicare cost varies so much by income since the higher income people paid more to medicare tax previously... but it is what it is

i guess it also helps explain why poor people of the world immigrate to USA


That looks pretty cheap considering Medicare beneficiaries are the highest risk pool and highest user of services. They’re the ones getting fem-pop-chop-chop-chop-dialysis.
 
Lol. Comical.

"Some negative news reports" = genocide and forced organ harvesting .

No big deal right?

Gimme a break.



That's a pretty big deal in 2022.


Judging by our actions, it is apparently no big deal. It’s ironic one of those links is NBCNews. So who’s watching the @NBCOlympics? Who owns TSLA in their 401k? Who watches TV, uses a router or an iPhone?




“For China, the boycott feeds a domestic narrative of malevolent American hegemonic suppression of China’s rise. China may do a retaliatory boycott of the Los Angeles 2028 Olympics and possibly the 2032 Summer Games in Brisbane. Regarding the gauntlet of human rights criticisms, China’s playbook is to weather the political storm in the run-up to the games with the expectation that once the competitions start, the stories of athletic gold medal performance will dominate the media cycle and will mute the political protests. This pretty much worked for the country in 2008, so officials will try to stick to the same playbook.”
 
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That looks pretty cheap considering Medicare beneficiaries are the highest risk pool and highest user of services. They’re the ones getting fem-pop-chop-chop-chop-dialysis.
It’s really a damn shame someone over 65 who is likely on a fixed income needs to worry about the cost of medical care (something my mother is dealing with right now). We can say what we want about younger people but someone over 65 should be able to walk into a clinic/hospital get whatever care/prescriptions they need and not have to look at their checking account.
 
It’s really a damn shame someone over 65 who is likely on a fixed income needs to worry about the cost of medical care (something my mother is dealing with right now). We can say what we want about younger people but someone over 65 should be able to walk into a clinic/hospital get whatever care/prescriptions they need and not have to look at their checking account.
And who is going to pay for this ? I’m assuming you want to be paid for providing this care. So does everyone else involved in the healthcare industry (and it is an industry). This is an unsolvable problem.
 
And who is going to pay for this ? I’m assuming you want to be paid for providing this care. So does everyone else involved in the healthcare industry (and it is an industry). This is an unsolvable problem.
You're right, which is why I said a big problem is "mentality". Plenty of people on here want to make 600k, work 4 days a week, and live in a mansion, myself included.

The goverment should eat the bill of every person over 65.
 
You're right, which is why I said a big problem is "mentality". Plenty of people on here want to make 600k, work 4 days a week, and live in a mansion, myself included.

The goverment should eat the bill of every person over 65.

You think we need to provide publicly funded healthcare for non productive people in the twilight of their lives so that we can spend more money on keeping them alive longer artificially. Yeah makes sense.
 
It’s really a damn shame someone over 65 who is likely on a fixed income needs to worry about the cost of medical care (something my mother is dealing with right now). We can say what we want about younger people but someone over 65 should be able to walk into a clinic/hospital get whatever care/prescriptions they need and not have to look at their checking account.
wat about medicaid

edit: meant poor old people. will be way cheaper
 
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You think we need to provide publicly funded healthcare for non productive people in the twilight of their lives so that we can spend more money on keeping them alive longer artificially. Yeah makes sense.
How long should be people need to work so they can pay for healthcare coverage? My mother, bless her soul, worked for local goverment for years. She has a health coverage through a pension but still needs to pay out pocket money for Medicare supplement and prescription coverage. That's absolutely ridiculous. Now she's just a regular old middle class lady who can probably afford it but complains about it. Lord help the poor old folks where $500 in copays a year will really mess up their life.

We all approach this through the lens of six figure salaries......there are A LOT of broke a** people in this country.

So to answer your question. Yes.
 
How long should be people need to work so they can pay for healthcare coverage? My mother, bless her soul, worked for local goverment for years. She has a health coverage through a pension but still needs to pay out pocket money for Medicare supplement and prescription coverage. That's absolutely ridiculous. Now she's just a regular old middle class lady who can probably afford it but complains about it. Lord help the poor old folks where $500 in copays a year will really mess up their life.

We all approach this through the lens of six figure salaries......there are A LOT of broke a** people in this country.

So to answer your question. Yes.

I grew up poor and haven't lost perspective. I still feel guilty about turning on the heat or buying new clothes. I also have elderly parents that don't have millions of dollars for retirement. If you can't afford cadillac care why do you feel that you deserve it? You had your whole life to save money. Why should the current generation be continually forced to pay for entitlements for those who didn't have the foresight to do so for themselves? This is the reason why we have all these demented nonambulatory 90 year olds in nursing homes getting a million dollar workup and a new hip. Paid for by the rest of us.
 
I grew up poor and haven't lost perspective. I still feel guilty about turning on the heat or buying new clothes. I also have elderly parents that don't have millions of dollars for retirement. If you can't afford cadillac care why do you feel that you deserve it? You had your whole life to save money. Why should the current generation be continually forced to pay for entitlements for those who didn't have the foresight to do so for themselves? This is the reason why we have all these demented nonambulatory 90 year olds in nursing homes getting a million dollar workup and a new hip. Paid for by the rest of us.


Tbf, I dont ever recall doing a THA in a nonambulatory patient. (I’ve done hemi’s to treat fractures.) Maybe our orthopods are not that hungry.
 
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