Academic advisor?

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VentdependenT

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How many of you out there have a school with an academic advisor who is worth a damn? We don't have such a thing at AZCOM. Just curious for those of you applying to residencies. No one helps us out here. Only help comes from our peers. Pitiful if you ask me.
 
We get assigned faculty advisors, about 4-5 students per advisor. People's experiences with this vary greatly with each particular advisor. I suppose in terms of advice for residency, having a PhD professor as your advisor wouldn't be that helpful anyway. Maybe there's a DO or MD on staff to help you guys out? Do you have deans for a clinical affairs office at your school? They're who I'd go to if I had residency issues.
 
No advisors here. Another drawback to going to a D.O. school. They don't seem to care much about students' clinical education or residency placement at all. We just got reminded of that big time this week when our 3rd-4th year schedules came out. What a freakin' mess. 😡
 
No kidden. You drop all this money on an education and the school doesn't even have one staff member to guide its students through available options or provide them with any sort of game plan. I put my time in, busted my ass, and I can't wait to get out of here.
 
My academic advisor died and was not replaced.

My clinical advisor is a foreign educated MD who I dont think ever obtained a US license.

I do have well over six figures of educational debt, though.
 
Can you please explain the problems you are encoutering at AZCOM? I have been accepted to both AZCOM and COMP - your opinion might bear weight on my decision. I have questions and am definately concerned with the quality of AZCOM's clinical rotations and placements into residencies. Thank you.
 
Folks here definitely land good residencies. At least 70% of us go through the allopathic match. I'll post the 2003 match list later on, webmail is screwy right now. Keep in mind however that most folks do indeed enter primary care. Their choice.

The didactic years here are outstanding in my opinion. Our pass rate is extremely high for COMLEX. Not sure about USMLE, I haven't checked with the school, but everyone I talked to has passed it. I got a 227, which is fine for what I'm going for. A few others in my class got 240's-250's.

As far as clinicals go you are on your own if you want competitive residencies. I don't think this is too much different from anywhere else however. For instance, if you want rads you better rotate at one really good place for a letter o' reference, and another place you think you have a shot at. Talk with the residents as they will be your best source of info. Our school offers no guidance in these regards. There is no "radiology chair/advisor" or "ortho chair/advisor" to help you understand what needs to be done to land a spot. Our school doesn't help us with planning on getting these types of residencies because they have no idea what it takes to persue them.

In my opinion and personal experience, you will have to spend a ton of time out of state rotating at high quality institutions in order to get letters of rec and good experience in specialized fields. That is what will stand out on your app. Again this is just my experience. Opionions will vary as they should. There is a MAYO here and we do rotate there. 4th year rotations in state are good (if you want to stay local), no question about it. 3rd year is where we suffer.

There are plenty of intelligent people at my school, but without direction I feel some of them just haven't been able to use their potential to the fullest. No one is looking out for them. Guidance is nonexistant. Bottom line, you have to be on top of your shiit all the time as far as pursuing a residency is concerned. Kick ass on your USMLE, the COMLEX doesn't count for poop in the Allo world. My opinion, opinions will vary as they should.

As far as rotations go, in-state you can get stuck doing some really crappy core rotations at some preceptor's office. This can really really really suck. However, you can get some very good cores too, its totally preceptor dependent. For the best local CORE year experience you will most likey depend on our rural training. High on experience, low on academics.

I went out of state for personal and professional reasons, and I must say that for all my bitching our school is very very proficient and leniant on letting us do outside rotations. That is where our clinical ed dept rocks. You can go ANYWHERE your ENTIRE fourth year and 1/2 of your 3rd year (this is very unique, ask anyone). They are very good at pushing the necessary paperwork through and providing us with contacts at outside rotations. I have been able to do some truly awsome rotations and I think that is one of the reasons why I'm getting the interviews I am. Down side is it can be expensive if you don't know folks you can crash with at these locations.

All of this is meaningless without an ultimate gameplan, which is completely up to you to figure out and execute. It is easy to get lost in the slop. This place will make you a doctor, but its sure as hell only up to you to find out how to land a residency. Best of luck.
 
Here at NSU, we are assigned to academic advisors, and are mandated to meet with them at least once a semester (i believe). We were reminded by an administrator about 3/4 of the way through this first semester to make sure and meet w/our advisor. Mine is a PhD pharmacology professor, who is very nice, but I'm not sure yet how much advice he will be able to provide when it comes time for residencies.

I agree it varies from advisor to advisor, depending on how long they have worked at a medical school in terms of knowing the ropes, as well as what their own educational path has been. At NSU, I believe we have an academic advisor more for the purposes of having a contact point when we are not doing well academically during our first two years. I met with my advisor and we chatted a bit about my background prior to med school, and then we didn't have much else to talk about. I have no complaints and am not in any academic trouble. He is very nice and I know he is there if the need arises, although he may not be my first choice of people to talk to. And if you aren't happy with your advisor, you can request that a change be made.

So, that is how I believe the advisor relationship works here at NSU. I don't know how helpful the advisor is in the 3rd and 4th years, but maybe some of my upperclasspersons can chime in on that. I was glad to be assigned to SOMEONE on the faculty, just so I didn't feel so out there and alone, which was how I felt when school started.

Just my thoughts.....
 
Originally posted by unk_fxn
My academic advisor died and was not replaced.

My clinical advisor is a foreign educated MD who I dont think ever obtained a US license.

I do have well over six figures of educational debt, though.

Oh man, that is tragic!

Vent, is that the guy from Outkast in your avatar? Whoever he is, he is totally hot!

😍

Anyway, sorry. Back to the subject.
 
Originally posted by Elysium
Oh man, that is tragic!

Vent, is that the guy from Outkast in your avatar? Whoever he is, he is totally hot!

😍

Anyway, sorry. Back to the subject.

That is the almighty artist known formerly as prince!
 
Originally posted by VentdependenT
That is the almighty artist known formerly as prince!

Didn't Andre say that Prince/The Artist is one of his idols? He'd probably be flattered to be mistaken for the guy. 😀
 
Here at VCOM we've got two advisors--one is a biomedical faculty advisor (PhD) and the other is a clinical advisor (DO or MD).

There are about 10 students for every pair of advisors. Both my advisors have been available to me individually anytime I've approached them 🙂 and I have to say I've learned a lot from them 🙂

The faculty at VCOM is outstanding!!
 
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