Acceptable As Biochem?

[MedPR]

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I've seen quite a few people bringing up Biochem requirements over the past few days. Figured I would make a thread for it in case anyone had questions regarding if a class would count or not.

I'm 99% sure my "BIOL 302 Cellular Biochemistry & Molecular Biology" counts for biochem credit even though it is nothing like the biochem I've seen my girlfriend studying for Step 1.

Can anyone chime in on this? I know there's biochem in the course title, but is that enough?

 

[FrkyBgStok]

I would bet no, but it is best to email the specific school. It could suck for them to say no later on and you lose an acceptance.

 

[MedPR]

I would bet no, but it is best to email the specific school. It could suck for them to say no later on and you lose an acceptance.

So are most biochem credits just called "Biochemistry"?

 

[deleted357625]

contact the school and don't mention anything about the course, just let them approve it, if not you tried.

 

[FrkyBgStok]

So are most biochem credits just called "Biochemistry"?

Yeah. You don't want a class that has biochemsitry in it but is based around molecular biology. You want a class centered on biochemistry. The good news is that you don't need biochem to apply so if you get into a school that requires it, you can get t in the spring.

 

[MedPR]

Yeah. You don't want a class that has biochemsitry in it but is based around molecular biology. You want a class centered on biochemistry. The good news is that you don't need biochem to apply so if you get into a school that requires it, you can get t in the spring.

Do acceptances come early enough to register for spring classes?

 

[NeuroLAX]

Do acceptances come early enough to register for spring classes?

The earlier you apply, the more chance you have at getting an early interview and hence an earlier acceptances. That being said, it's all about timing. Get you secondaries out ASAP when you get them and make sure you have everything in for your file to be complete so the review process gets underway shortly thereafter.

FWIW, my undergrad's biochemistry was called Intro to Molecular Biology and Biochemistry. There was no such thing as simply "Biochemistry"

 

[MedPR]

The earlier you apply, the more chance you have at getting an early interview and hence an earlier acceptances. That being said, it's all about timing. Get you secondaries out ASAP when you get them and make sure you have everything in for your file to be complete so the review process gets underway shortly thereafter.

FWIW, my undergrad's biochemistry was called Intro to Molecular Biology and Biochemistry. There was no such thing as simply "Biochemistry"

Yea, there was no "Biochemistry" at my undergrad either and the medical school attached to my undergrad requires Biochem. Since there is a "medical scholars" program, I'm assuming they accepted my "Cellular Biochem & Molecular Bio" as biochem credit. Obviously I know this may or may not be true for other schools so I'll just call the ones who claim to have a "Biochemistry" requirement. Maybe it'll help that I got an A in that class.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Yea, there was no "Biochemistry" at my undergrad either and the medical school attached to my undergrad requires Biochem. Since there is a "medical scholars" program, I'm assuming they accepted my "Cellular Biochem & Molecular Bio" as biochem credit. Obviously I know this may or may not be true for other schools so I'll just call the ones who claim to have a "Biochemistry" requirement. Maybe it'll help that I got an A in that class.

I doubt you will have an issue, but it always helps to hear it straight from the school.

 

[MedPR]

I doubt you will have an issue, but it always helps to hear it straight from the school.

I hope so. My current school (CC) doesn't offer Biochem either. I'll gladly spend the $1500-$2000 on a Biochem class at my state school if it's part of my conditional acceptance, but I don't want to take it prematurely. The closest state school to me is a 45 minute commute.

 

[NeuroLAX]

I hope so. My current school (CC) doesn't offer Biochem either. I'll gladly spend the $1500-$2000 on a Biochem class at my state school if it's part of my conditional acceptance, but I don't want to take it prematurely. The closest state school to me is a 45 minute commute.

$1500-$2000 for biochem? That's insanity. Schools may ask for a course description of the one you already took, in which case I doubt they will have a problem with it.

 

[MedMentor]

I have heard that the second semester of ochem can count for biochem or vice versa if the school only requires one semester of ochem or biochem. For example, my buddy swapped biochem for the second half of ochem when he was accepted to UVa.

 

[MedPR]

$1500-$2000 for biochem? That's insanity. Schools may ask for a course description of the one you already took, in which case I doubt they will have a problem with it.

State school is $500 per credit. I don't know if biochem is 3 or 4 credits.

 

[NeuroLAX]

I have heard that the second semester of ochem can count for biochem or vice versa if the school only requires one semester of ochem or biochem. For example, my buddy swapped biochem for the second half of ochem when he was accepted to UVa.

Some schools do in fact allow you to swap biochem for orgo 2, but I've never heard of the other way around.

State school is $500 per credit. I don't know if biochem is 3 or 4 credits.

Mine was 4 credits. So that would put you at $2000... ouch.

 

[Cleared T Clear]

State school is $500 per credit. I don't know if biochem is 3 or 4 credits.

Yikes. I thought state schools were supposed to be cheap. Some folks have mentioned UNECOM's online biochem course. I haven't taken it but it may be something I consider for this fall.

http://faculty.une.edu/com/courses/bionut/distbio/distbiohome.html

$1280 for a 4 credit class is more than I pay per credit now but sounds a lot better of a deal than $500/credit if it is something that would work/ be approved. Maybe I should do a search for reviews on this program...

 

[HipChick]

As long as its the upper level biochem course and not the intro course I think you'll be fine. Also, oakland university in Michigan has an online section of biochem some semesters

 

[NeuroLAX]

As long as its the upper level biochem course and not the intro course I think you'll be fine. Also, oakland university in Michigan has an online section of biochem some semesters

My biochem course had "Intro" at the beginning and was a 4000 level course, definitely upper level.

I've heard a lot about these online biochem courses, sounds like a viable option for those that need it.

 

[HipChick]

My biochem course had "Intro" at the beginning and was a 4000 level course, definitely upper level.

I've heard a lot about these online biochem courses, sounds like a viable option for those that need it.

Annoying the differences across the academic board huh? Most "intros" I've come across are 100-200 level courses. Like there's an intro to biochem and organic chem, it's a 200 level bio course.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Annoying the differences across the academic board huh? Most "intros" I've come across are 100-200 level courses. Like there's an intro to biochem and organic chem, it's a 200 level bio course.

Likewise. It is what it is.

 

[MedPR]

Some schools do in fact allow you to swap biochem for orgo 2, but I've never heard of the other way around.




Mine was 4 credits. So that would put you at $2000... ouch.

Yea, ouch indeed!

Yikes. I thought state schools were supposed to be cheap. Some folks have mentioned UNECOM's online biochem course. I haven't taken it but it may be something I consider for this fall.

http://faculty.une.edu/com/courses/bionut/distbio/distbiohome.html

$1280 for a 4 credit class is more than I pay per credit now but sounds a lot better of a deal than $500/credit if it is something that would work/ be approved. Maybe I should do a search for reviews on this program...

Yea, that's exactly why I am taking classes at a CC (~$85 per credit) versus state school. I know a university looks a lot better than a CC, but I've taken 30 credits at CC over the past 12 months and 30*500=$15k, which is a little under 75% of my annual salary at a job I only started at last year. I know $15k isn't a lot of debt in the grand scheme of things, but I just didn't want to take any unnecessary debt.

Thanks for the heads up about that class. I might end up doing that in the spring if I can't get any of my credits to count for biochem.

As long as its the upper level biochem course and not the intro course I think you'll be fine. Also, oakland university in Michigan has an online section of biochem some semesters

Mine was a 300 level and the highest Bio goes at my undergrad was 450. Think that counts?

 

[DrWily]

Only a few schools require Biochemistry so unless you really want to get into one of those schools (I think MSU is one?), then Orgo 2 is fine. But I think your class would pass as Biochem (I mean, it has it in the name...)

Also, I took a class called Chem Biology (Chem major). wasssuppp

 

[HipChick]

Mine was a 300 level and the highest Bio goes at my undergrad was 450. Think that counts?

What i usually do is go to a transfer equivalency table from the school or at least a school in that state and see how it transfers. Yours could easily be ok if it counts as a bio Chem class, but I'm worried it might be more a molecular class. Or a quick call is suffice 🙂

 

[Whiskeypunch]

I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with that class counting as biochem.

 

[MedPR]

Only a few schools require Biochemistry so unless you really want to get into one of those schools (I think MSU is one?), then Orgo 2 is fine. But I think your class would pass as Biochem (I mean, it has it in the name...)

Also, I took a class called Chem Biology (Chem major). wasssuppp

DMU and KCUMB (two of my top choices) require biochem as well :/

Chem Bio? 😕

What i usually do is go to a transfer equivalency table from the school or at least a school in that state and see how it transfers. Yours could easily be ok if it counts as a bio Chem class, but I'm worried it might be more a molecular class. Or a quick call is suffice 🙂

Well I also took molecular cell biology, so the two are different at my university. I haven't gotten around to making any phone calls yet, but I will soon.

 

[DrWily]

Chem Bio? 😕

Yap. Chemical Biology.