ACP in-training exam score and ABIM

[robin082006]

Hi,

I am currently a PGY III and unhapppy with my ACP score. My real score is 66 and percentile is 50%. Some residents in my program (PGY I and II) got the same real score as mine but they got >75% percentile. This means that I did badly in compared with PGY III all over the US.

I will take ABIM exam next year and worry about my exam performance.

Does anybody know the relation between ACP score and ABIM?

Thank you.

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[saltcedar]

People will pass easily with ITE score >45 percentile in PGYIII. Thats from my program's statistics. You are in a good shape!

 

[robin082006]

People will pass easily with ITE score >45 percentile in PGYIII. Thats from my program's statistics. You are in a good shape!

Thank you very much, but I am still shocked about my exam. I have to focus on my weak specialies.

 

[WorkaholicsAnon]

My personal feeling is that whatever you get on the in-training exam, you only need to worry about whether it's good or not if you dont' plan on studying for the ABIM. That or if you studied hard for the in-training exam, were well rested, and still did poorly.

I know i had ZERO time to prepare for my in-service exams, and had to take both coming off of 2 weeks of nightfloat each time, had to sit through it from 8 in the morning to 5pm. 😱 Bombed it both times (probably because i ran out of time and didn't finish like 50-100 questions per section). Studied for a couple months for the ABIM, passed no problem--did pretty well actually.

 

[ranmyaku]

Have people started getting the in-service exam scores back for this year? Haven't gotten mine yet. Seems slower this year.

 

[saltcedar]

Hi,

I am currently a PGY III and unhapppy with my ACP score. My real score is 66 and percentile is 50%. Some residents in my program (PGY I and II) got the same real score as mine but they got >75% percentile. This means that I did badly in compared with PGY III all over the US.

I will take ABIM exam next year and worry about my exam performance.

Does anybody know the relation between ACP score and ABIM?

Thank you.

The ITE is a useful tool in assessing the likelihood of a resident's passing or failing the ABIM certifying examination but is less predictive for residents who received ITE scores between 49 and 66. ​

J GEN INTERN MED 1998;13:414–416.

link http://www.springerlink.com/content/n142045353pn8wq3/fulltext.pdf

 

[dragonfly99]

50th percentile means that you outscored 1/2 of PGY3's and 1/2 of them outscored you, so it doesn't mean you totally sucked. It is unlikely you would fail the ABIM exam, particularly if you study at all for it. It's always good to study your weak areas, though, and it's good you are concerned. How did you do on USMLE? If you passed that pretty easily, you're unlikely to fail ABIM. It's just not THAT hard, although I did find it required a lot less thinking and more memorization than the USMLE. At least that was my opinion.

 

[saltcedar]

Just got good score in ITE, then what? My score has not been change since I started 2 years ago 🙂

 

[robin082006]

Thank all of you and Happy New Year.

My USMLE scores are good, >90 at first attempt. But my ACP score is low, that's why I am concerned.

Still waiting for the full report in order to focus on my weak areas.

Good luck to all.

 

[Gibbles]

I would agree with what Dragonfly said.

The In-training examination is more a marker for your cummulative knowledge base. It tests what you know and punishes you for what you don't know. There really is minimal reasoning on the test, which means that if you don't know the answer, then you'll practically be guessing everytime.

That is much different from the USMLE. You have to have a general idea of what you're doing, but it's quite easy to make it through medical school as a B+/A- student and still score 99s across the board on all three steps. That test is all about reasoning skills. If you don't have them, then you'll do poorly.

Now, if you do well on the USMLEs and do well on the in-training exams, then you know that you're progressing and a well-rounded physician.

 

[infarct]

I would agree with what Dragonfly said.

The In-training examination is more a marker for your cummulative knowledge base. It tests what you know and punishes you for what you don't know. There really is minimal reasoning on the test, which means that if you don't know the answer, then you'll practically be guessing everytime.

That is much different from the USMLE. You have to have a general idea of what you're doing, but it's quite easy to make it through medical school as a B+/A- student and still score 99s across the board on all three steps. That test is all about reasoning skills. If you don't have them, then you'll do poorly.

Now, if you do well on the USMLEs and do well on the in-training exams, then you know that you're progressing and a well-rounded physician.

...or are doing well on in-training exams and USMLE's. That's all u can draw from it.

 

[jdh71]

...or are doing well on in-training exams and USMLE's. That's all u can draw from it.

While you will have out-liers and we've all seen them, solid scores on these exams generally correlate very well with good docs. I think you can generally draw the conclusion that good scores = well rounded physician.

 

[ResidentMD]

50th percentile means that you outscored 1/2 of PGY3's and 1/2 of them outscored you, .

Is this nationally or just in your program?

 

[jdh71]

Is this nationally or just in your program?

nationally

 

[amanbano]

Please give me some tips, thank you very much