ADEA Guide 2015

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is there a way to print pages from the online version?
 
My digital version was one of those online ebook things that are almost impossible to print unless you screenshot every page
 
Do the stats change that much year to year? Is the 2014 book good enough?
 
I have the 2014 and will be getting the 2015....

Any change matters, maybe there is increased acceptance every year in a particular section of enrollees, with only one year, it would be hard to see any of these changes.
 
tooth knockn said:
I have the 2014 and will be getting the 2015....

Any change matters, maybe there is increased acceptance every year in a particular section of enrollees, with only one year, it would be hard to see any of these changes.
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Even so, maybe that trend was temporary??
 
Temporary or not....
1 year data is useless, to make any informed decision of what could happen in the next cycle.


I am going to use 2014 and 2015 to see which schools are accepting students with my similar standing.

NY
Male
Age
Academic scores
 
ajj70 said:
Even so, maybe that trend was temporary??
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Fun story that I found out after I was accepted to Pitt:

One of the big reasons I was okay with applying to Pitt at the time was due to the fact the 2014 ADEA guide (i.e. c/o 2017) said Pitt accepted a lot of students from Florida. After I applied and was accepted, I joined the FB group and started talking with c/o 2018 members who said there were no Floridians in their class.

I still think I would've applied to Pitt, but I would have been a lot more hesitant.
 
BrazilianRider said:
Fun story that I found out after I was accepted to Pitt:

One of the big reasons I was okay with applying to Pitt at the time was due to the fact the 2014 ADEA guide (i.e. c/o 2017) said Pitt accepted a lot of students from Florida. After I applied and was accepted, I joined the FB group and started talking with c/o 2018 members who said there were no Floridians in their class.

I still think I would've applied to Pitt, but I would have been a lot more hesitant.
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That is what I'm thinking as well. Just because last year or the year before they did "this" doesn't mean it will happen again next year. It's still a nice guideline but not sure it's really worth buying a few years worth of books??
 
ADEA says to check back May 1.... has anyone contacted them with more definite answers this past week?
 
By the time this finally comes out I'm already going to need new LORs for next cycle.

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has anyone found out when it is going to be released on amazon? I may give up soon but I would much rather do prime shipping than pay $12 for it
 
doc toothache said:
You are preparing to spend 250-500,000 for a dental education, but you are worried about $12 for shipping?
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Even though you are right, this is the exact attitude that can make your debt balloon to the upper end of that range.
 
Tikidude19 said:
Even though you are right, this is the exact attitude that can make your debt balloon to the upper end of that range.
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No.

That range that doc listed is the range for the cheapest dental school to the most expensive one. Youre assuming that spending $ here and there would elevate your debt considerably.

If you and I went to the same school but I went downtown more often, bought some nice clothes, and ate out a lot, the magnitude of my debt compared to yours is pitiful compared to the fact that we just spent six figures worth on an education. That is the point that doc is making.

Unless students start buying Audi R8s while in school, minor spending is not going to do much when compared to the bigger picture.
 
ICUrunning said:
No.

That range that doc listed is the range for the cheapest dental school to the most expensive one. Youre assuming that spending $ here and there would elevate your debt considerably.

If you and I went to the same school but I went downtown more often, bought some nice clothes, and ate out a lot, the magnitude of my debt compared to yours is pitiful compared to the fact that we just spent six figures worth on an education. That is the point that doc is making.

Unless students start buying Audi R8s while in school, minor spending is not going to do much when compared to the bigger picture.
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Define minor spending...buying nice clothes, eating out a lot, going out more often can easily lead to $200+ difference a month in you vs. a more conservative spender, which balloons to about $10K at the end of 4 years. If this is loan money, you're looking at paying back maybe $14-15K in interest over time.

IDK about you, but I'd rather have 15K extra at the end of dental school or pay off my student loans 4-6 months earlier so I can enjoy life more...

With respect to the original debate on buying ADEA guide now and paying $12 vs. waiting for it to go on Prime,

I'd probably do the same thing that @kmandrew is doing and wait for the guide IF the cycle was still a month or so from opening. Considering that there is an increasing time pressure as we get closer to the opening of the app, I'd spend the extra $12 and buy the guide immediately.
 
ICUrunning said:
No.

That range that doc listed is the range for the cheapest dental school to the most expensive one. Youre assuming that spending $ here and there would elevate your debt considerably.

If you and I went to the same school but I went downtown more often, bought some nice clothes, and ate out a lot, the magnitude of my debt compared to yours is pitiful compared to the fact that we just spent six figures worth on an education. That is the point that doc is making.

Unless students start buying Audi R8s while in school, minor spending is not going to do much when compared to the bigger picture.
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Obviously it meant the tuition range for the dental schools. You are getting too fixated on a minor point.

It is not pitiful if you have a good sense of money. Sure, it starts with a $12 shipping fee. Then it snowballs and becomes "I want to live in a $1000/month luxury apartment instead of a $500 off campus one. I have so much debt anyways, what difference will it make?" Plus add in the more lavish spending as Incisor mentioned above and you are looking at over 30k after 4 years.

Obviously this is just an example, but proper spending habits are a way of life, and key to getting out of debt ASAP. Unless there are some huge benefits to getting the book in 2 days earlier that I am missing.
 
Incis0r said:
Define minor spending...buying nice clothes, eating out a lot, going out more often can easily lead to $200+ difference a month in you vs. a more conservative spender, which balloons to about $10K at the end of 4 years. If this is loan money, you're looking at paying back maybe $14-15K in interest over time.

IDK about you, but I'd rather have 15K extra at the end of dental school or pay off my student loans 4-6 months earlier so I can enjoy life more...

With respect to the original debate on buying ADEA guide now and paying $12 vs. waiting for it to go on Prime,

I'd probably do the same thing that @kmandrew is doing and wait for the guide IF the cycle was still a month or so from opening. Considering that there is an increasing time pressure as we get closer to the opening of the app, I'd spend the extra $12 and buy the guide immediately.
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Tikidude19 said:
Obviously it meant the tuition range for the dental schools. You are getting too fixated on a minor point.

It is not pitiful if you have a good sense of money. Sure, it starts with a $12 shipping fee. Then it snowballs and becomes "I want to live in a $1000/month luxury apartment instead of a $500 off campus one. I have so much debt anyways, what difference will it make?" Plus add in the more lavish spending as Incisor mentioned above and you are looking at over 30k after 4 years.

Obviously this is just an example, but proper spending habits are a way of life, and key to getting out of debt ASAP. Unless there are some huge benefits to getting the book in 2 days earlier that I am missing.
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Fair points. But thats assuming it snowballs from minor spending to lavish spending.

I will give dental students the benefit of a doubt and assume that they know the difference between a need and a want. The guidebook is a need, an expensive apartment is a want.
 
ICUrunning said:
Fair points. But thats assuming it snowballs from minor spending to lavish spending.

I will give dental students the benefit of a doubt and assume that they know the difference between a need and a want. The guidebook is a need, an expensive apartment is a want.
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You are more kind than I am.

There is this pre-dent I know who has been accepted through a non-binding combined degree program to a 400K dental school. He's a rising senior in undergrad this summer. He told me he is not going to bother applying to any other schools (even though he has competitive stats GPA and DAT-wise). He's settled on the combined degree acceptance. He intends to take out every single cent of dental school in loans (did I mention it is 400K and he has the option to apply to his state dental school if he wants?).

When I asked him how much of his income he thinks will be taken up by loans, he smiled and said "not more than 5%" and then looked puzzled at my reaction.

I do not give anyone the benefit of the doubt 😛.

OH, and he is the one our pre-health advising office uses to speak to incoming undergrad. freshmen about dentistry.
 
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Incis0r said:
You are more kind than I am.

There is this pre-dent I know who has been accepted through a non-binding combined degree program to a 400K dental school. He's a rising senior in undergrad this summer. He told me he is not going to bother applying to any other schools (even though he has competitive stats GPA and DAT-wise). He's settled on the combined degree acceptance. He intends to take out every single cent of dental school in loans (did I mention it is 400K and he has the option to apply to his state dental school if he wants?).

When I asked him how much of his income he thinks will be taken up by loans, he smiled and said "not more than 5%" and then looked puzzled at my reaction.

I do not give anyone the benefit of the doubt 😛.

OH, and he is the one our pre-health advising office uses to speak to incoming undergrad. freshmen about dentistry.
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Well, he's in for a bit of a surprise.
 
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