Advice for failed step 2 CK attempt

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I failed step 2 ck and I would like to know what is a good review book to study that I can cover within a month? for example, Boards and Wards?

Also, I did USMLE world Q.bank and I am afraid I still recall some of the answers of off memory, should I still do USMLE world or should I go with Kaplan's Q bank for step 2 ck?

Thanks to all.
 
It does not matter if you remember the USMLE world questions/answers or not, what matters is if you understand the concepts in the explanations or not.

IMO you have to use a more detailed book perhaps, like Kaplan Lecture notes. But you also have to go through USMLE world again and make sure you understand what makes a correct answer correct, and a wrong answer wrong.
 
It does not matter if you remember the USMLE world questions/answers or not, what matters is if you understand the concepts in the explanations or not.

IMO you have to use a more detailed book perhaps, like Kaplan Lecture notes. But you also have to go through USMLE world again and make sure you understand what makes a correct answer correct, and a wrong answer wrong.



thank u for your reply...I did use kaplan lecture notes, would you recommend going through them again? or should I just pick one good review book and stick to that?
 
thank u for your reply...I did use kaplan lecture notes, would you recommend going through them again? or should I just pick one good review book and stick to that?

To be brutally honest, a failed attempt most likely means either:

1) Serious lack of understanding of Clinical knowledge concepts.

2) Serious issue with test taking that is hampering your ability to demonstrate your knowledge through a standardized test.

If you have passed Step 1 already, most likely you don't have a problem with test taking. If there is a serious deficiency in concept understanding, I don't know if a single review book would remedy that. I suppose reading the Kaplans again would be a better idea.

Of course a second opinion could always help here.
 
To be brutally honest, a failed attempt most likely means either:

1) Serious lack of understanding of Clinical knowledge concepts.

2) Serious issue with test taking that is hampering your ability to demonstrate your knowledge through a standardized test.

If you have passed Step 1 already, most likely you don't have a problem with test taking. If there is a serious deficiency in concept understanding, I don't know if a single review book would remedy that. I suppose reading the Kaplans again would be a better idea.

Of course a second opinion could always help here.


that is a very good analytical breakdown of the problem which I presented, and in fact, I do fit one of the possible scenarios: I had trouble reading through the questions in a timely fashion, I felt like I did not encounter anything knew (knowledge wise) but rather if I had more time to read the questions in detail, than I would have been able to perhaps pass. Having said that, and I apologize for bothering you about this, what do you suggest I do to fix that problem? Besides doing a timed Q bank, is there anything else u suggest I do?

Thanks much for your reply.
 
that is a very good analytical breakdown of the problem which I presented, and in fact, I do fit one of the possible scenarios: I had trouble reading through the questions in a timely fashion, I felt like I did not encounter anything knew (knowledge wise) but rather if I had more time to read the questions in detail, than I would have been able to perhaps pass. Having said that, and I apologize for bothering you about this, what do you suggest I do to fix that problem? Besides doing a timed Q bank, is there anything else u suggest I do?

Thanks much for your reply.

Perhaps you could try new techniques in tackling questions. For example, for long questions, you could always try to look at the last sentence or two. Get an idea what the question wants.

"What's the diagnosis? What's the best next step?"

Sometimes you can even answer the question entirely by reading the last two lines. Once you know exactly what the question wants, you could easily skim through the question looking for the things you need. For example, if it was a "what's the diagnosis" question, I always find myself skimming for some red flags, and buzz words that could strongly hint for a diagnosis. If it's the best next step, you'd probably need to pay closer attention to the supplied exam / investigations. All in all, you need to see how you could formulate a good idea about the question in less than a minute.

Additionally, put a limit on each question and keep your eye on the timer. This limit should not be exceeded under any circumstance. For example, 44 questions, you should give a maximum of 1 minute and 30 seconds for each question. If you get close to that limit, simple mark it, make a best guess and move on. Don't dwell on it. You also should not be spending 1 minute 30 second on every question, that should be your maximum, because 1:30 means 66 minutes for 44 questions , and obviously you're not allowed to spend that much. But the reason such a limit could be allowed is that you are expected to finish plenty of other questions in much less than a minute, and thus make up for the difference.
 
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Perhaps you could try new techniques in tackling questions. For example, for long questions, you could always try to look at the last sentence or two. Get an idea what the question wants.

"What's the diagnosis? What's the best next step?"

Sometimes you can even answer the question entirely by reading the last two lines. Once you know exactly what the question wants, you could easily skim through the question looking for the things you need. For example, if it was a "what's the diagnosis" question, I always find myself skimming for some red flags, and buzz words that could strongly hint for a diagnosis. If it's the best next step, you'd probably need to pay closer attention to the supplied exam / investigations. All in all, you need to see how you could formulate a good idea about the question in less than a minute.

Additionally, put a limit on each question and keep your eye on the timer. This limit should not be exceeded under any circumstance. For example, 44 questions, you should give a maximum of 1 minute and 30 seconds for each question. If you get close to that limit, simple mark it, make a best guess and move on. Don't dwell on it. You also should not be spending 1 minute 30 second on every question, that should be your maximum, because 1:30 means 66 minutes for 44 questions , and obviously you're not allowed to spend that much. But the reason such a limit could be allowed is that you are expected to finish plenty of other questions in much less than a minute, and thus make up for the difference.


Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me all the details. I will definitely follow your advice and approach each question in the manner which you suggested, I have to train myself to do each question within a limited period of time, and your method seems realistic.

one more question if you dont mind....I already have done all of USMLE world and like i stated earlier, I am afraid that I might still recall some of the answers, besides re-doing all of USMLE world via the method which you suggested, do you think that I should also get the Kaplan online Q bank so that I will have brand new questions? again, thanks for your tremendous help.
 
I don't know about Kaplan, I have no experience with their Q Bank whatsoever. If your aim is :

1) To make sure you could finish brand new questions on time, then a new Q Bank can be necessary to achieve that.

2) To revise CK knowledge, then USMLE world would suffice.
 
To be brutally honest, a failed attempt most likely means either:

1) Serious lack of understanding of Clinical knowledge concepts.

2) Serious issue with test taking that is hampering your ability to demonstrate your knowledge through a standardized test.

If you have passed Step 1 already, most likely you don't have a problem with test taking. If there is a serious deficiency in concept understanding, I don't know if a single review book would remedy that. I suppose reading the Kaplans again would be a better idea.

Of course a second opinion could always help here.
Then what is a person in that situation to do?




EDIPT: Also, as an IMG, what would be the ramification(s) of failing the CK (albeit, not by much) and taking it again?
 
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How close to the passing line were you? AMG (MD or DO?) or IMG?

Which sections of your score report were borderline (shaded gray box) and fail (past the gray box on the left)?
For instance in the discipline profile, what was your weakest subject?

One thing for sure is that before you take the test again you need to do an NBME test to predict your score (ensure it is passing).

Any issues with time management during the test (not being able to complete all questions)?

Is it possible for you to take a structured review course (Kaplan, Doctors in Training, or whatever else is out there)?

Depending of what category you fit into, you have a good chance of passing on the next attempt.

The performance data is here:
http://www.usmle.org/Scores_Transcripts/performance/2008.html
 
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