Please post any advice you have. I foresee various challenges with navigating the role, maintaining balance, etc. What makes a great chief? Thank you
Please post any advice you have. I foresee various challenges with navigating the role, maintaining balance, etc. What makes a great chief? Thank you
Strange. I can barely remember the names of my chief residents. I certainly don’t remember who was on call when. All those things that seemed so important in residency will fade rapidly once you are a month out....Treat your co-residents in a fair and courteous fashion. Do not abuse the power granted to you to take extra vacation, schedule 3 day weekends by taking Thursday calls, give yourself all the “paid moonlighting” shifts and don’t be a d!ck. I watched as chief residents abused their coresidents for three years and it sucked.
I think we have a call counter here!Treat your co-residents in a fair and courteous fashion. Do not abuse the power granted to you to take extra vacation, schedule 3 day weekends by taking Thursday calls, give yourself all the “paid moonlighting” shifts and don’t be a d!ck. I watched as chief residents abused their coresidents for three years and it sucked.
Unfortunately it doesn't change much when you are chief of your group in private practice haha
As far as advice...be comfortable with the fact that you won't be able to please everyone. You will have your "call counters" and nonsense requests. You will quickly see who the good residents are and who the below average ones are.
I think it is valuable on a resume. Shows you are well liked by your peers and respected for your skills.
I think we have a call counter here!
The former chiefs will understand.
Jr resident storms into your OR. “I have been put on call 6 Tuesdays and only 2 Wednesdays. TWO. That’s BS! Do you know you have 3 Wednesdays in a row next month?”
— “What?” <oh man, here we go...> “You know what, come find me later I’ve got to pay attention in a minute here.”
Being chief is one of the worst jobs out there. In my personal experience, you can go from having a great relationship with most attendings to being held accountable for the entire residency group. Realize that your voice and opinion no longer matters as you have to speak for your entire cohort, particularly the weaker/lazier ones. It's a thankless job, particularly by your class. But if you're a good chief and take the younger classmen under your wing, the relationships you build will last and people will appreciate you.
It’s A LOT of work. Scheduling, committees, angry/lazy residents, picking up the slack/ pinch hitting.
I do think I got a couple things out of it. You do seem to be respected a little bit more than other residents. That can translate to more freedom inside and outside the OR. You do get to see how an anesthesia department is run and managed. You can have a direct hand in recruiting for and promoting your residency program.
Anecdotally, I’ve heard it can help you get a job but it never came up in any of my eight interviews when I was shopping for a job.
Keep doing the things that got you the position and you will be fine. I don’t know what makes a great chief, I was probably average at best.
Be fair and don’t play favorites. Everyone gets screwed the same amount. Including you.
Don’t try to be everyone’s friend, but don’t be a d*ck.
Don’t be negative. It’s probably going to suck for you more than just about anybody else with all the extra bull you have to deal with. But the residents feed off of you. I’d you are down they will be down. Everyone is always looking for a reason to complain. If you do, they WILL. Set the example for others to follow.
SQUELCH the rumor mill.
If you screw something up (resident schedule) own it, then make it right.
Stand up for your residents. Even if they are sh*itbags. Unless they are dangerous.
don’t try to fix every problem. Run it up your chain of command. In the end you are still a resident. They don’t pay you enough to get **** on with every little problem that comes up.
LEARN YOUR JOB. LEARN HOW TO BE AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST. If the being a chief is getting in the way, quit being chief or take on fewer responsibilities.
In the end, some of your residents will think you are amazing and some will think you are a douche. The truth is somewhere in the middle... and sometimes both.
Well if you want to be remembered beyond just this year I recommend being more on the side of your fellow residents than the faculty. Once the year is done, and you move on professionally, references and referrals from your peers will speak volumes about you and lead to better things in the future. If your peers resent you, expect the opposite.
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So.... Where is the benefit in this position? Sounds like a lot of dirty work, and no extra pay to boot. And likely not much benefit post residency. Why would one willingly sign up for this?
Be honest, be fair, don't play favorites. Lead by example. Be the general in front of the troops, not hiding behind them.Please post any advice you have. I foresee various challenges with navigating the role, maintaining balance, etc. What makes a great chief? Thank you
Nothing good comes of this.So.... Where is the benefit in this position? Sounds like a lot of dirty work, and no extra pay to boot. And likely not much benefit post residency. Why would one willingly sign up for this?
For a time in my residency we had excellent chief residents. They would pick up the slack if they couldn’t find coverage.
I think we have a call counter here!
The former chiefs will understand.
Jr resident storms into your OR. “I have been put on call 6 Tuesdays and only 2 Wednesdays. TWO. That’s BS! Do you know you have 3 Wednesdays in a row next month?”
— “What?” <oh man, here we go...> “You know what, come find me later I’ve got to pay attention in a minute here.”
That is your definition of “excellent” chiefs?
I personally wouldn’t do it again.
My advice:
1. Do what’s fair for everyone. Be utilitarian.
2. Learn to say no, and don’t feel guilty about it.
3. Accept that you will come to dislike the “call counters”, complainers, pot stirers, etc, and try to still be fair.
4. Make a good relationship with the administration. Residents are not always right.
5. Lead by example. Take a call if you need to. But don’t make a habit out of it. It’s a fine line before your the only one covering people’s calls.
6. Don’t ask people to do things via mass email. Pick a resident, talk to them in person if you need them to take a shift or do something, your success rate will be much higher.
when you get depressed after a couple months, just remember the medicine people do a whole extra year of residency to have the honor of doing this **** 🙂
These people will do anything to match GI I guess. As for the others doing it? I can't even imagine what is going through their heads.Ah yes the IM Chief year. Biggest scam job next to OB fellowship. Can't a secretary do the same job as an IM Chief? They really don't do much clinical and pretty much did admin stuff when I was a med student. What a waste of earning year for them
I am aware of one large academic East Coast program where the anesthesia chief resident job is an extra year. To the best of my knowledge they are paid a full attending salary for that year though...Otherwise I don’t think anyone would take that job. Not aware of any other anesthesia residencies that do things that way
if the ca-4 chief resident gets paid a full attending salary, i assume they will be expected to take call and cover ORs just like a regular attending, and the chief duties on top of that. Sounds like a terrible deal for residents unless they get at least 2 non-clinical days off a week to do chief work, with fewer calls.
The only people that would take this offer is if they were weak residents and want to stay in academia or pursue fellowship. You never see the cream of the crop IM resident pursuing chief year. Those residents go straight to fellowship.
Clinically, it doesnt. But from what I have heard, chief year for them is a nice “feather in the cap.” Even if it doesnt make them more competitive, they certainly will get more consideration for in-house positions.How does the chief year make them better candidates? How does them proving how great at paper pushing for a year make them better at showing their candidacy for gi\cards?
How does the chief year make them better candidates? How does them proving how great at paper pushing for a year make them better at showing their candidacy for gi\cards?
Yes the MGH anesthesia Chief year. Leave it to MGH tk be the only program to make their resident do an extra year.I am aware of one large academic East Coast program where the anesthesia chief resident job is an extra year. To the best of my knowledge they are paid a full attending salary for that year though...Otherwise I don’t think anyone would take that job. Not aware of any other anesthesia residencies that do things that way
Please post any advice you have. I foresee various challenges with navigating the role, maintaining balance, etc. What makes a great chief? Thank you
I didn't realize everyone was/is a Chief on SDN.
I didn't realize everyone was/is a Chief on SDN.
Some of us are indians. 😉I didn't realize everyone was/is a Chief on SDN.
Some of us are indians. 😉
I think the saying referred to feathered ones.Dot or feather?
The whole chief position makes no sense. You are asking a CA-3, who by definition has one foot out the door, to go above and beyond, listen to everyone’s problems, make the schedule, invest in improving the program etc. Why? The schedule could easily be handled by the secretary/program coordinator. Improving lectures, dealing with problem residents and faculty complaints should best be left to the program director.