Advice for MS2 on getting a Path residency

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Hello everyone!

I am an MS2 and thinking I might be interested in pathology.

Do you all have any advice for me?

Should I be concerned w/ my ranking/step 1 scores....etc for matching in path?

I am a student at UTSW and would probably like to stay here for residency.

One of my concerns is my GPA, which I estimate puts me in the 3rd quarter of my class.

Thanks!
 
I would suggest that you try to do as well as you can on Step 1 and class grades, mainly because it will open doors for you when applying, and also just in case you change your mind later and want to do derm. 😉 But, of course, I wouldn't give yourself ulcers stressing out about it, either. I am getting plenty of interviews this year and my Step 1 is quite mediocre. From what I understand UTSW is a good program - I don't really know how heavily they take their own students, but I'm sure you have a better idea of that.

Also, if you get a chance to do any path stuff early on, I would recommend it to confirm your plan. For example at my school, there is a mini-elective you can do during 2nd year to see what a Pathologist does while taking the Path course. We don't get any actual elective rotations until 4th year, so I basically didn't decide for sure until a few months ago.
 
Upperclassmen always say your ranking should fall in the top half of your class.

What can I expect for residency matching, if I am not in the top half? Will graduating from a top 20 med school play a role in getting me interviews (please don't bash me for saying I go to a top 20 school...people can be harsh on these forums)?

I don't intend to apply to the super-elite programs in the country...but I don't want to end up in some small town hospital either.

I just want to have a plan for my future.

Thanks for your wisdom!
 
Hello everyone!

I am an MS2 and thinking I might be interested in pathology.

Do you all have any advice for me?

Should I be concerned w/ my ranking/step 1 scores....etc for matching in path?

I am a student at UTSW and would probably like to stay here for residency.

One of my concerns is my GPA, which I estimate puts me in the 3rd quarter of my class.

Thanks!

The most important grades are 3rd year grades...and they're subjective and criteria differ from school to school.

Preclinical grading also varies from school to school and some of that has to do with variation in curricula.

Step 1 is the great equalizer...focus on that...and do well. If you achieve a very good score, you can't not match.

You go to a good school, so that helps.

I wouldn't sweat about class rank.

I would find ways to demonstrate an interest in path. Some people do research...maybe that's an option for you. However, there are a lot of folks who do research (i.e., summer research, HHMI cloister, PhD, etc) only remotely related to pathology who still end up being great candidates. So whatever floats your boat.
 
I have heard that some path programs have a large number of FMG. Do certain programs actually prefer FMG over American Graduates? Or, does that trend suggest American grads are simply less interested in that program?
 
I have heard that some path programs have a large number of FMG. Do certain programs actually prefer FMG over American Graduates? Or, does that trend suggest American grads are simply less interested in that program?

The latter, in most cases.
 
I can't say I recall anyone talking much about actual medical school grades when previewing applicants for potential interview. That's not to say some people don't count it highly, but in my experience Step I is the big "number" that gets looked at. Medical school name does have some influence, for better or worse ("we had a great resident from X, but a bad resident from Y, therefore that is how I will always think of those med-schools"), but widely comparable measures (such as Step I) seem to carry more weight. You can always try to use the strength of one of them to counter the other if it is a weakness; not all medical school curricula teach to Step I, especially these days as more move towards earlier clinical involvement at the expense of highly detailed basic sciences. Of course, every residency program has slightly different ways they cull from the applicant herd, or pick people for interview.

Step I probably isn't all it's cracked up to be in terms of identifying a good potential doctor or pathologist, but it -is- a pretty fair indication of how hard a worker someone is. Whether it's any more useful than that I suppose is a debate for another place.

Otherwise I'd have to repeat what most people have already said -- do a path rotation, get to know what you really think of it, and develop some basic connections in the field.

Pathology is increasingly competitive, though in terms of numbers doesn't match some specialties. You don't necessarily need a 250+ Step I, top 2 of your class, multiple publications, a great personality, and contacts out the wazoo to get a solid match spot -- but it certainly helps your chances of getting the spot you want most. IMO any passing Step I plus a solid foundation in exposure to pathology and a good attitude/personality gives you at least a -chance-. You're much less likely to get a top 20 kind of spot, of course, but you shouldn't be told you're wasting your time either -- heresay on the numbers just doesn't seem to support that conclusion right now.
 
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