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Advice for those searching for attendings job
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my personal advice for those looking for an academic job:
1. make sure you have a talk ready to give. all the program i interviewed at asked me to give a 45 min talk to the department on my research.
2. know what you want...specifics about the position you are looking for, the research you are interested in, and your expectations of the job.
3. dont talk money on the first interview
4. do your homework...talk to current and former residents about the department...talk to other chairmen/attendings about the job opportunity.
5. trust your gut feeling.
1. make sure you have a talk ready to give. all the program i interviewed at asked me to give a 45 min talk to the department on my research.
2. know what you want...specifics about the position you are looking for, the research you are interested in, and your expectations of the job.
3. dont talk money on the first interview
4. do your homework...talk to current and former residents about the department...talk to other chairmen/attendings about the job opportunity.
5. trust your gut feeling.
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good advice.
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Good list, but I disagree with #3. It's important to be clear from the get-go what type of faculty rank you'll be considered for and how your compensation will be figured. All too often, I've seen examples where residents aren't proactive and get low balled. Everything is negotiable, even in academics.
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i agree wit point three: dont talk money on first interview. that is for 2nd visit.
actually, i didnt find any faculty positions (i interviewed at 8 places) where salary was negotiable. what is negotiable is protected time, conference time, support staff (research nurses, np's), etc. i do agree with what you said abuot being clear about the rank, track (tenure or not), etc. i found that people talked specific numbers at the 2nd interview...
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I agree with what everyone has said so far.
Money is really out of your hands in both private and academic jobs. Academics usually have payscales that are based on years of experience, rank, and give increases yearly for cost of living. You really have no room in negotiating your salary or contract for the most part. I do think RADONC is right on the money....you can negotiate protected time (for research), and that is probably most important anyway.
As for the private market, again, as a new grad, you'll have little room to negotiate numbers. You may be able to get an extra 10K, but the reality is that most groups know what they are going to offer and stand by it. Certainly, and outstanding candidate might be able to garner a little more, but in the real world, you're just another physician. In private practice, you can negotiate other benefits, however, and may even be able to negotiate the terms of partnership - ie less years. In the end, however, your starting salary really means nothing because within a few years your be making double or triple that amount anyway.
my 2 cents.
Money is really out of your hands in both private and academic jobs. Academics usually have payscales that are based on years of experience, rank, and give increases yearly for cost of living. You really have no room in negotiating your salary or contract for the most part. I do think RADONC is right on the money....you can negotiate protected time (for research), and that is probably most important anyway.
As for the private market, again, as a new grad, you'll have little room to negotiate numbers. You may be able to get an extra 10K, but the reality is that most groups know what they are going to offer and stand by it. Certainly, and outstanding candidate might be able to garner a little more, but in the real world, you're just another physician. In private practice, you can negotiate other benefits, however, and may even be able to negotiate the terms of partnership - ie less years. In the end, however, your starting salary really means nothing because within a few years your be making double or triple that amount anyway.
my 2 cents.
