Advice for worst case scenario....

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Assuming a worst case scenario where I do not match into any ophtho programs this year, I wondered what advice any of you may have for what direction I should take next. I am a DO student and I thought that if I could find a dually accredited MD/DO transitional year, this would be ideal so that I could reapply to both types of programs. (I am not eligible to apply to any DO programs this year, b/c you have to have completed a DO internship year to apply, and the ophtho programs are not linked to the internship). However, I don't know that such a combined transitional year exists. If I do a MD transitional year, I will most likely have to sit out a year and do research or something unless a program has a PGY-2 spot open for 2005. Ideally I would like to pursue an allopathic residency but it seems pretty difficult for a DO to break into this field since most programs don't have much experience with DOs. Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.
 
Well my research so far has revealed there is no such thing as a dually accredited transitional year.........guess I will do an allopathic year and see if the DO programs will accept it since there are fewer of those to apply to..........anyone know how I could get involved in a research program if I don't match, and how much that will help me if I need to reappy?
 
I feel your pain. I'm in the exact same boat.
 
Well misery loves company! Welcome aboard !!
 
there are at least 2 programs in NY that are dually accredited.
Nassau Univer. Med Center is the first one which is very .....

Good luck!
 
Your research is somewhat incomplete.

#1: There are two linked DO ophtho programs where you apply as an MS4 and match into both the internship and residency. The remaining programs do require you to apply as an intern. The linked programs may give preference to grads from their own school, but at least would like you to rotate through. Where are you going to school?

#2: There sure are dually accredited programs, but you have to ask around, actually look on the opportunities website, or attend hospital day type events to find them. Some of the programs are in decent places, some are quite rural. You probably would want to end up reasonably close to where you match for residency unless you really like moving. But if you match allopathic, then you probably want some internships to choose from that are in your preferred area or are as cush or intense as you prefer. Are you a 4th year applying right now?

#3: Some alums from your school could be great resources for you as there most certainly are DOs in some programs. To find a "DO friendly" program you have to look at the programs or call the programs to see if they want you to be an LCME grad. If they don't you are good to go. I would ask alums of your school who are in allopathic ophtho programs what they did to be successful. Just like everyone else, MD or DO I think you have to know you want ophtho very, very early so that you can plan accordingly to rotate at your desired programs, do research, gather good LORs, and take the USMLE along with the Comlex.

I have been quite non-specific in my reply because I am not sure if you are interested in the specific info I have. If you would like more specific info (names of programs, DOs currently in allopathic programs) I can give that to you.

Good luck.
 
I would very much appreciate any information you have to offer. Unfortunately, I decided quite late that I was going to pursue ophtho, although I did get my CAS materials in on time. I am currently a 4th year at Ohio University. I would appreciate any advice you may have in regard to what my strategy should be assuming I do not match through the San Francisco match in January. Thank you very much!!!
 
Well, looks like you are getting plenty of help from another thread regarding dually accredited internships, so I won't go there.

As far as the other issues...

I am not aware of any Ohio alums in allopathic programs...but there are so many programs I can't claim to keep track of everyone. I guess finding an alum to talk to won't be very much help then. But in case you wanted to track people down from other schools at their programs here is a list of current residents and matches. You could go to some of the program websites (where names are listed...even pics) and maybe get a hold of them through their program.

UHS has a person at UMDNJ and one at USC-Doheney
NYCOM has a person at North Shore U and a match at Suny Buffalo
CCOM has a person at Henry Ford...I recently met this guy...didn't have a lot to say
MSU has a match at Henry Ford...met this one as a med student
Nova has a military match at Brooks Army in Texas...he posts on here sometimes and would be good to talk to I think

The 2 linked AOA programs are the Chicago and Tulsa programs. I know Chicago very very much prefers its own alums. Now that I know you are from Ohio, I probably would even say don't bother. The OK one is more open, but I think they would like to see your face. The benefit of applying to the linked AOA program is that the SF Match is earlier I believe so you would only have to commit to the AOA program if you didn't match allopathic. But then again, would you want to be in OK?

I wouldn't worry about the other AOA programs right now. See how you do in the SF match. If you don't match, you have some time. If you have electives in the 2nd half of the year you could use them to visit some of the AOA programs. The best thing would be if you have 2 week electives, because then you could hit a lot of them. I would recommend coming to Detroit where you could probably hit all 3 MI programs if your timing is right, and then maybe going to Dayton or Philly depending on your preference.

If you find that you aren't interested in the AOA programs after rotating, you could plan to reapply allopathic and look for a pre-residency fellowship or research opportunity for after internship year. You could check into them anyways because the AOA programs fill too and some people either switch specialties or sit out a year.

One guy I know put internship off for a year and did research for a year to strengthen his app for SF match as an intern. He didn't match allopathic (but would have had to sit out another year!) but did match AOA. Maybe he'd be good to ask what NOT to do!

As far as the SF match goes, this board seems pretty helpful in walking you through the process. I didn't go through SF because I didn't rotate in ophtho and experience my career path epiphany until the beginning of my MS4 year and would not have been able to get letters, a PS, or USMLE step 2 in time. I didn't want to sit out a year. Luckily I am happy with my AOA program.

Don't stress too much. When you meet folks in many ophtho programs, esp the smaller ones, you will find your qualifications are up to par. Meeting the deadline is half the battle. 🙂 The top 10 programs on the other hand are a whole other ballgame.
 
OphthoBean,
I may need to talk to the guy you know who sat out his intern year to do research before his intern year. That was actually what I was planning on doing to strengthen my SF match application, so maybe he could give me some advice on what to do or not. Only one interview so far, so the chances of me matching this year are slim, and I would kind of like to have a back up plan. Thanks for your help.
 
Well, sorry its not going so hot. I'll send you a PM with this guy's name.
 
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