advices from pitie universitie Paris VI - what you think of it?

[micael]

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Here are some things I read in a french forum about the future of specialities. What you think of it?




Pareil que pour les spécialités chirurgicales. Nous nous basons sur 2 critères: avenir et rentabilité. Cela vous sera peut etre utilé. Encore une fois, ce ne sont que des opinions qui restent à discuter.

Avenir +++ Rentabilité +++
Cancérologie (surtout radiothérapie)
Radiologie. Très peu probable à court terme de faire sous traiter les images à l'etranger. Développement des 2 bras diagnostique et thérapeutique. Le tout radiologique est pour bientot.


Avenir ++ rentabilité ++
Cardiologie. Problèmes des coro diagnostiques faites en coroscan. Mais, reste quand meme echo coeur, ECG, stents, et tout le traitement habituel des dyslipidémies. Donc bon avenir bonne rentabilité.
Nephrologie. Uniquement si dialyse dans le privé.


Avenir +++ Rentabilité ---
Gériatrie. Peu de possibilité de gagner correctement sa vie.

Avenir + Rentabilité +
Dermatologie. Ne peut etre rentable que si cosmétologie bien développée. Mais les médecins généralistes se mettent pour beaucoup à la cosmétologie.
Rhumatologie. Vieillissement de la population. Nouvelles techniques non opératoires des fractures.
Médecine interne. Surtout de la gériatrie sauf centres très spécialisés (comme à la pitié

)
psychiatrie. Pas de commentaires

Avenir --- Rentabilité ---
Endocrinologie. en dehors des pathologies tres spécifiques aux CHU, le développement risque d'etre tres tres tres difficile.
Gastro-entéro-hépato. Menaces très fortes de la radiologie (cholangio IRM, fibroscan, coloscan, colocapsule).
Pédiatrie. Probablement à court moyen terme une disparition de la pédiatrie de ville.
Pneumologie. développement uniquement hospitalier. Menaces de la radiologie (broncho scan).

 

[Blade28]

Did you mean for this post to be completely in French? 😕

Or should I move this to the International forum?

 

[Castro Viejo]

Here are some things I read in a french forum about the future of specialities. What you think of it?




Pareil que pour les spécialités chirurgicales. Nous nous basons sur 2 critères: avenir et rentabilité. Cela vous sera peut etre utilé. Encore une fois, ce ne sont que des opinions qui restent à discuter.

Avenir +++ Rentabilité +++
Cancérologie (surtout radiothérapie)
Radiologie. Très peu probable à court terme de faire sous traiter les images à l'etranger. Développement des 2 bras diagnostique et thérapeutique. Le tout radiologique est pour bientot.


Avenir ++ rentabilité ++
Cardiologie. Problèmes des coro diagnostiques faites en coroscan. Mais, reste quand meme echo coeur, ECG, stents, et tout le traitement habituel des dyslipidémies. Donc bon avenir bonne rentabilité.
Nephrologie. Uniquement si dialyse dans le privé.


Avenir +++ Rentabilité ---
Gériatrie. Peu de possibilité de gagner correctement sa vie.

Avenir + Rentabilité +
Dermatologie. Ne peut etre rentable que si cosmétologie bien développée. Mais les médecins généralistes se mettent pour beaucoup à la cosmétologie.
Rhumatologie. Vieillissement de la population. Nouvelles techniques non opératoires des fractures.
Médecine interne. Surtout de la gériatrie sauf centres très spécialisés (comme à la pitié

)
psychiatrie. Pas de commentaires

Avenir --- Rentabilité ---
Endocrinologie. en dehors des pathologies tres spécifiques aux CHU, le développement risque d'etre tres tres tres difficile.
Gastro-entéro-hépato. Menaces très fortes de la radiologie (cholangio IRM, fibroscan, coloscan, colocapsule).
Pédiatrie. Probablement à court moyen terme une disparition de la pédiatrie de ville.
Pneumologie. développement uniquement hospitalier. Menaces de la radiologie (broncho scan).

True dat.

 

[Tired]

What you think of it?

I think the French language sounds like an old man dry heaving, with occassional small amounts of vomit escaping.

 

[HCE]

Here are some things I read in a french forum about the future of specialities. What you think of it?




Pareil que pour les spécialités chirurgicales. Nous nous basons sur 2 critères: avenir et rentabilité. Cela vous sera peut etre utilé. Encore une fois, ce ne sont que des opinions qui restent à discuter.

Avenir +++ Rentabilité +++
Cancérologie (surtout radiothérapie)
Radiologie. Très peu probable à court terme de faire sous traiter les images à l'etranger. Développement des 2 bras diagnostique et thérapeutique. Le tout radiologique est pour bientot.


Avenir ++ rentabilité ++
Cardiologie. Problèmes des coro diagnostiques faites en coroscan. Mais, reste quand meme echo coeur, ECG, stents, et tout le traitement habituel des dyslipidémies. Donc bon avenir bonne rentabilité.
Nephrologie. Uniquement si dialyse dans le privé.


Avenir +++ Rentabilité ---
Gériatrie. Peu de possibilité de gagner correctement sa vie.

Avenir + Rentabilité +
Dermatologie. Ne peut etre rentable que si cosmétologie bien développée. Mais les médecins généralistes se mettent pour beaucoup à la cosmétologie.
Rhumatologie. Vieillissement de la population. Nouvelles techniques non opératoires des fractures.
Médecine interne. Surtout de la gériatrie sauf centres très spécialisés (comme à la pitié

)
psychiatrie. Pas de commentaires

Avenir --- Rentabilité ---
Endocrinologie. en dehors des pathologies tres spécifiques aux CHU, le développement risque d'etre tres tres tres difficile.
Gastro-entéro-hépato. Menaces très fortes de la radiologie (cholangio IRM, fibroscan, coloscan, colocapsule).
Pédiatrie. Probablement à court moyen terme une disparition de la pédiatrie de ville.
Pneumologie. développement uniquement hospitalier. Menaces de la radiologie (broncho scan).

Come on people....we can figure this out..okay, he's making some points, probably about the future of Radiology, Cardiology, Geriatrics, Dermatology and Endocrinology......okay, that's all I got for now, except I see the word 'very' and "but" in there....

 

[TheWowEffect]

I think the French language sounds like an old man dry heaving, with occassional small amounts of vomit escaping.

 

[micael]

NO. I didn't mean to write this completely in french. I read this in a french forum and would like your opinion about this, if you thought that this previsions are true.

For instances I was very surprised to see that dermatology will loose some of the importance that has right now due to the cosmectics. I have the ideia that dermatology that is very rentable and that would continue in the future.

About nephrology do you agree with it? Would it be only a rentable speciality if it continues existing dialise in the private?

Do you think that radiologie will still some areas of specialities like gastro how is written in this opinion or will it happen the contrarie, that gastro will get the interventional areas from radiology?

Sorry to the moderator pasting the test in french, but it was to know what you think about?

 

[MSHell]

ils ne comprennet que l'anglais ici. ça ne vaut pas la peine... je suis trop paresseuse pour traduire.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I didn't mean to write this completely in french. I read this in a french forum and would like your opinion about this, if you thought that this previsions are true.


Sorry to the moderator pasting the test in french, but it was to know what you think about?

Posting in a foreign language is a violation of the TOS, but even more important, since most of us do not read or speak French, it makes little sense to ask us what we think about the post since we cannot translate it. In addition, the French system of medicine is very different than that in the US.

Perhaps if you translated the entire passage it would be more helpful.

 

[MSHell]

Posting in a foreign language is a violation of the TOS, but even more important, since most of us do not read or speak French, it makes little sense to ask us what we think about the post since we cannot translate it. In addition, the French system of medicine is very different than that in the US.

Perhaps if you translated the entire passage it would be more helpful.

I've seen threads/posts in other languages before - no bannings, no warnings, no mod comments. I read the TOS and didn't find it to be a violation. However, if I overlooked it, could you please link to it?

Second, although the french and american systems are very different, apparently they are having similar problems regarding reimbursement and scope of practice. whodathunk?? Medicine is still medicine - turf wars shall always be there and the payor (be it government or insurance companies) does not like to pay.

 

[Castro Viejo]

with occassional small amounts of vomit escaping.

Would that explain their internationally infamous B.O.?

Or is it because their chicks don't shave their pits and are afraid of showers?

 

[Discobolus]

The first specialty has me a bit confused. I think I would interpret that as radiology, but I also saw the word "cancerology" in there. So is this a joke about radiologists getting cancer or are they referring to rad-onc? 😀

 

[Winged Scapula]

I've seen threads/posts in other languages before - no bannings, no warnings, no mod comments. I read the TOS and didn't find it to be a violation. However, if I overlooked it, could you please link to it?

I was wrong...it is not a TOS violation, however, forum Moderators are SUPPOSED to tell users posting in a foreign language to refrain from doing so. SDN is designed to be widely used and that cannot happen if users post in languages other than English. Many SDN volunteers are new or unaware of the these policies, but it has been discussed at length before and I'm sorry that it has not been clear to you and other users. Posts are to be in English.

Second, although the french and american systems are very different, apparently they are having similar problems regarding reimbursement and scope of practice. whodathunk?? Medicine is still medicine - turf wars shall always be there and the payor (be it government or insurance companies) does not like to pay.

That's fine...but it still stands to be the case that I, and others, find it strange that the OP would post on an English language forum a thread completely in French and when asked to translate, only did so in a rudimentary fashion.

 

[Blade28]

I agree.

As the moderator of this forum, I'm going to ask the OP (micael) to please provide a translation of that post.

My command of the French language is rudimentary at best (I took it for 6 years, throughout junior high and high school), but I think it would potentially benefit everyone here if we could continue discussing this topic in English.

 

[micael]

Same as for surgical specialities. We rely on 2 criteria: and future profitability. This can helpfull. Again, these are only opinions that remain to be discussed.

Future +++ Profitability + + +
Oncology (mainly radiotherapy)
Radiology - Very unlikely in the short term that images will be sent abroad (foreign countries). Development of two branches: diagnostic and therapeutic. Everything is for radiology soon.


Future++ profitability + +
Cardiology -Problems of coronaries wil be diagnosed with coroscan. Also of cardiology the heart echo, ECG, stents, and all the usual treatment of dyslipidemia. So good future and good profitability.
Nephrologie. Only if dialysis in the private sector.


Future +++ Profitability ---
Geriatrics. Few opportunity to earn an adequate livelihood.

Future + Profitability +
Dermatology. May not be profitable if well developed cosmetology. Family practioners are prescribing significantly cosmetics.
Rheumatology. Aging population. New non-surgical techniques to treat fractures.
Internal Medicine. Especially geriatrics, except in highly specialized centers (like pity)
Psychiatry. No comments

Future --- Profitability ---
Endocrinology. Apart from very specific diseases in hospital, the development is likely to be very very very difficult.
Gastro-enterohepatic Hepato. Threats very strong of Radiology (MR cholangio, fibroscan, coloscan, colocapsule).
Pediatrics. Probably short-medium term disappearance of pediatrics at City
Pneumology. Development only hospital. Threats of Radiology (Broncho scan).

 

[Blade28]

It's going to be tough to extrapolate those opinions (which are based on the French system of almost 100% government-funded insurance) to the healthcare system here in the US. If I misread your post and you wanted a discussion of French healthcare, then this thread may actually belong in the International forum.

Unfortunately, there aren't too many active medical students or physicians from France who post on SDN, if I recall correctly.

 

[Tired]

In France, do GI suites smell better because the rest of the country smells so bad?

 

[Castro Viejo]

In France, do GI suites smell better because the rest of the country smells so bad?

Ass smells different from pits, so it doesn't necessarily smell better it's just different but I suppose a welcome change!

 

[LADoc00]

Same as for surgical specialities. We rely on 2 criteria: and future profitability. This can helpfull. Again, these are only opinions that remain to be discussed.

Future +++ Profitability + + +
Oncology (mainly radiotherapy)
Radiology - Very unlikely in the short term that images will be sent abroad (foreign countries). Development of two branches: diagnostic and therapeutic. Everything is for radiology soon.


Future++ profitability + +
Cardiology -Problems of coronaries wil be diagnosed with coroscan. Also of cardiology the heart echo, ECG, stents, and all the usual treatment of dyslipidemia. So good future and good profitability.
Nephrologie. Only if dialysis in the private sector.


Future +++ Profitability ---
Geriatrics. Few opportunity to earn an adequate livelihood.

Future + Profitability +
Dermatology. May not be profitable if well developed cosmetology. Family practioners are prescribing significantly cosmetics.
Rheumatology. Aging population. New non-surgical techniques to treat fractures.
Internal Medicine. Especially geriatrics, except in highly specialized centers (like pity)
Psychiatry. No comments

Future --- Profitability ---
Endocrinology. Apart from very specific diseases in hospital, the development is likely to be very very very difficult.
Gastro-enterohepatic Hepato. Threats very strong of Radiology (MR cholangio, fibroscan, coloscan, colocapsule).
Pediatrics. Probably short-medium term disappearance of pediatrics at City
Pneumology. Development only hospital. Threats of Radiology (Broncho scan).

Im confused. I thought France had a Marxist Socialist Healthcare system where each MD was paid pretty much the same.....
Shouldnt it be:
Future----Profitability---
All specialities will continue to be beaten down until morale improves. Might as well pick the laziest possible career choice because, under Socialism, motivation to actually achieve is NIL.
Get drunk, get high, maybe riot a bit outside of Paris.
No one have any kids because that is actually work.
Viva La France!

Funny, in a few short generations (or lack there of in France), it will all be a distant memory...

 

[MSHell]

France has public and private healthcare. So yes, one can get paid quite a lot (especially labs and such).

 

[micael]

do you think gastroenterology will die?

 

[Blade28]

do you think gastroenterology will die?

In the United States? Or in France?

 

[Tired]

do you think gastroenterology will die?

Dunno, but I wish this thread would.

 

[Castro Viejo]

In the United States? Or in France?

In Somalia.

 

[DiveMD]

In France, do GI suites smell better because the rest of the country smells so bad?

Have you ever been in France?

 

[177983]

Have you ever been in France?

Of course they haven't. They probably haven't left the country. But then again, why would they? The U.S. is obviously the best place to live ever in the history of mankind.

 

[177983]

Anyway, Tired and Castro are just yanking our chains. I highly doubt they think the French smell bad.

 

[Castro Viejo]

Anyway, Tired and Castro are just yanking our chains. I highly doubt they think the French smell bad.

True. I just think they're cowards.

 

[DiveMD]

But then again, why would they?

Culture...

 

[Tired]

Have you ever been in France?

Why would anyone go to France?

 

[Castro Viejo]

Of course they haven't. They probably haven't left the country. But then again, why would they? The U.S. is obviously the best place to live ever in the history of mankind.

Exactly! 👍

 

[Castro Viejo]

Why would anyone go to France?

To see firsthand the Arc de Triomphe under which several different regimes have marched throughout history in various takeovers of France.

 

[deleted109597]

Hey now, France isn't so bad. As long as they think you're german.
It is worth it to go to the war museum and see the 1st sign declaring war, and the 2nd sign in the entire museum saying France surrenders!

On topic, no emergency, no care.

 

[Blade28]

To see firsthand the Arc de Triomphe under which several different regimes have marched throughout history in various takeovers of France.

Hey now, France isn't so bad. As long as they think you're german.

...or as long as they don't think you're American.

 

[smq123]

Hey now, France isn't so bad. As long as they think you're german.

...or as long as they don't think you're American.

Very true. One of the times in my life that looking obviously Asian has been an advantage. 😀

 

[Tired]

To see firsthand the Arc de Triomphe under which several different regimes have marched throughout history in various takeovers of France.

I just feel like I'd get lost in a sea of leg and armpit hair . . .

 

[Castro Viejo]

Very true. One of the times in my life that looking obviously Asian has been an advantage. 😀

Perhaps in most of Paris, but not on the Champs-Elysees.

Being Asian there makes you a magnet for every Asian scam artist in Paris!

 

[Castro Viejo]

I just feel like I'd get lost in a sea of leg and armpit hair . . .

If you get lost, just use your nose to comb through all the bad Frenchie B.O. and find the alcoholic Germans with AOB marching under the "Triumphant Arch" singing "God Save the Queen."

By the way, when they named the Arch the "Arc de Triomphe," did they mean it to be a triumphant arch for other country's and their victories over France? Sounds like the Frogs got foresight, yo.

 

[Blade28]

Very true. One of the times in my life that looking obviously Asian has been an advantage. 😀

Yeah but then I speak my butchered French and they quickly figure out that I'm American. 🙂

 

[Tired]

Being Asian there makes you a magnet for every Asian scam artist in Paris!

"Asian scam artist" in terms of a scam artist who is Asian, or a scam artist specializing in scamming Asians?

 

[smq123]

Yeah but then I speak my butchered French and they quickly figure out that I'm American. 🙂

Oh, I just pretended to be "deaf-mute," and smiled a lot. That seemed to work in Spain...maybe it wouldn't work in France, though.

 

[Castro Viejo]

"Asian scam artist" in terms of a scam artist who is Asian, or a scam artist specializing in scamming Asians?

Both! Scam artists of Asian descent who scam only Asians. It's crazy.

So there's a bunch of these Asian people who hang around the Champs outside the fancy boutiques like Louis Vuitton. They see you, provided you're Asian looking, and approach you saying, usually in Mandarin Chinese, "Louis Vuitton is selling this bag at a discounted price but the store only allows each customer to buy one. We'd like to buy a few more. Would you help us buy it? We'll give you money."

So they whip out like several thousand Euro and hand it to you, point to a picture of the bag in a catalog, and send you on your way to the Louis Vuitton boutique. You buy the bag for them, give it to them and whatever cash is leftover, and they invariably say, "Hey wait a minute! We gave you X amount of Euro and the bag cost Y and now we're only getting Z back?!" So you engage in some argument with these people over how much they'd given you, how much the bag costs, and how much the change really is. It escalates and then some large Asian gentleman come out of nowhere to beat your a$$ and rob you blind.

Why? According to the sales lady I spoke with at Louis Vuitton, she said they refuse to sell to those Asian people loitering about the Champs because they "take the bags back to China to counterfeit them." So the excluded Asians try to prey on less-Asian looking Asians (non-"FOB" looking Asians who essentially look like Americans) to buy the bags for them, and of course since the opportunity arises, beat the living snuff out of these "wealthy" Americans and rob them.

So how do I know? A friend of mine travelling to Paris during one summer several years ago was the victim of one of these scams and got the snuff beaten out of him. He told me the story and it seemed so stupid. But when I went to the Champs, I was approached by these Asian scam artists every block. They asked me to do the same exact thing. I refused to, so I went into the Louis Vuitton store and asked the busty French chick behind the counter what all the fuss was about with the Asians out on the Champs.

There it is.

 

[smq123]

Both! Scam artists of Asian descent who scam only Asians. It's crazy.

So there's a bunch of these Asian people who hang around the Champs outside the fancy boutiques like Louis Vuitton. They see you, provided you're Asian looking, and approach you saying, usually in Mandarin Chinese, "Louis Vuitton is selling this bag at a discounted price but the store only allows each customer to buy one. We'd like to buy a few more. Would you help us buy it? We'll give you money."

Wow. That's pretty crazy.

But if you pretend to be of Japanese or Korean descent? Or just don't speak Chinese or, especially, Mandarin?

There were a lot of Chinese teens in Spain who kept asking me if I were interested in helping raise donations for their youth ministry (at least, I think so - their English was pretty bad), but since they could only effectively communicate in Chinese, and I can't understand any Chinese, they quickly left me alone.

I wouldn't be above pretending to be of a different ethnicity if it gets scam artists (and extremely chipper, deeply religious teenagers) to leave me alone.

But when I went to the Champs, I was approached by these Asian scam artists every block. They asked me to do the same exact thing. I refused to, so I went into the Louis Vuitton store and asked the busty French chick behind the counter what all the fuss was about with the Asians out on the Champs.

Thanks for clarifying what she looked like.

 

[Castro Viejo]

But if you pretend to be of Japanese or Korean descent? Or just don't speak Chinese or, especially, Mandarin?

Once these Mormons accosted me on Broadway in New York and said something, "Hello, sir. We're from the Church of Jesus Christ & the Latter Day Saints and we'd like to share with you some exciting information."

I responded back in Mandarin Chinese, "Duibuqi. Wo bu jiang Ying wen." ("Sorry. I don't speak English.") Feeling triumphant that I stumped Whitey, the yellow-haired bastard then replied, "Zhen hao! Wo jiang Zhong wen! Wo men shi..." ("That's friggin' great! I speak Chinese! We are...")

Damn all that college.

So, as you see, I'm a bit afraid of pretending to be something I'm not. Once you get caught it's really friggin' embarassing.

There were a lot of Chinese teens in Spain who kept asking me if I were interested in helping raise donations for their youth ministry (at least, I think so - their English was pretty bad), but since they could only effectively communicate in Chinese, and I can't understand any Chinese, they quickly left me alone.

How did they want you to "raise donations" for their youth ministry? Make up fake passports and sell green cards on the street corner?

I wouldn't be above pretending to be of a different ethnicity if it gets scam artists (and extremely chipper, deeply religious teenagers) to leave me alone.

I'll have to tell you my other story about that in another forum. 🙂

Thanks for clarifying what she looked like.

Actually, she didn't look like that at all. It's just when I was typing out the story and replaying it in my mind, she became blonde and busty. And underneath her jacket was her lacy white undergarment just poking out the top... Sigh... I hate it when I'm at work on the weekends.

She actually looked like most any French "girl": like a guy, a la Sigourney Weaver in Aliens or Sinead O'Connor. I'd say Demi Moore in G. I. Jane, but as I recall, she had a humongo chest and her nips were all over the place on that one.

I just don't know where this "sexy French maid" thing comes from...

Speaking of ho bags... Anyone see the New York magazine spread on Lindsay Lohan? 🙂

 

[smq123]

Once these Mormons accosted me on Broadway in New York and said something, "Hello, sir. We're from the Church of Jesus Christ & the Latter Day Saints and we'd like to share with you some exciting information."

I responded back in Mandarin Chinese, "Duibuqi. Wo bu jiang Ying wen." ("Sorry. I don't speak English.") Feeling triumphant that I stumped Whitey, the yellow-haired bastard then replied, "Zhen hao! Wo jiang Zhong wen! Wo men shi..." ("That's friggin' great! I speak Chinese! We are...")

Damn all that college.

So, as you see, I'm a bit afraid of pretending to be something I'm not. Once you get caught it's really friggin' embarassing.

That's pretty hilarious. I (so far) haven't been caught, because the chances that random people on the street will know Korean are fairly slim. I've also had good luck with just smiling, tittering, and saying with a heavy accent, "I am from Laos," or some other equally obscure Asian country. I never actually SAY anything in another language that I don't know, and I run away before they can engage me in a long conversation. Granted, you (as a guy) might look a little silly "tittering" and running away, but hey - they leave you alone!

How did they want you to "raise donations" for their youth ministry? Make up fake passports and sell green cards on the street corner?

I think (and again, there was poor communication between us) that they wanted me to help them pass out pamphlets on street corners, tell random passersby about the "joy of Christ," and ask for donations. Needless to say, even if I WERE Chinese, there's no way that I'd do that. Particularly not in a foreign country.

I'll have to tell you my other story about that in another forum. 🙂

PM it to me, when you get a chance. Now I'm curious....

Actually, she didn't look like that at all. It's just when I was typing out the story and replaying it in my mind, she became blonde and busty. And underneath her jacket was her lacy white undergarment just poking out the top... Sigh... I hate it when I'm at work on the weekends.

She actually looked like most any French "girl": like a guy, a la Sigourney Weaver in Aliens or Sinead O'Connor. I'd say Demi Moore in G. I. Jane, but as I recall, she had a humongo chest and her nips were all over the place on that one.

I just don't know where this "sexy French maid" thing comes from...

Probably from the old days of Catherine Deneuve. Not that she looked like a maid, but there were probably a bunch of guys who got a kick out of imagining a maid that looked like her. And didn't she make a really old-time movie about how she purposely degrades herself, and becomes a prostitute just for the enjoyment of it?

(P.S. I have no idea where that sentence was going. It started out with maids and ended with prostitutes. All I can say is that I spent the past few hours playing social worker on eternal medicine, and my mind is not functioning properly anymore.)

Speaking of ho bags... Anyone see the New York magazine spread on Lindsay Lohan? 🙂

No, but there are a bunch of magazines with Paris Hilton at the nursing station that I'm sitting at.

"Mean Girls" was on TV recently. I didn't watch it - just flipped by it - but it made me sad. Lindsay Lohan actually looked pretty in that movie (more importantly, she looked like a normal human), before she dated Fez, dyed her hair black, became anorexic, did drugs, and started looking like a tired streetwalker. Sad.

 

[Winged Scapula]

Probably from the old days of Catherine Deneuve. Not that she looked like a maid, but there were probably a bunch of guys who got a kick out of imagining a maid that looked like her. And didn't she make a really old-time movie about how she purposely degrades herself, and becomes a prostitute just for the enjoyment of it?

Belle de jour...late 60s; at the height of her beauty.

She plays a "bored housewife who turns tricks"...the beginning of every porn stereotype out there. 😀

"Mean Girls" was on TV recently. I didn't watch it - just flipped by it - but it made me sad. Lindsay Lohan actually looked pretty in that movie (more importantly, she looked like a normal human), before she dated Fez, dyed her hair black, became anorexic, did drugs, and started looking like a tired streetwalker. Sad.

I've seen the latest pictures. And even outside the concern that it degrades the memory of Marilyn Monroe, the fact is that Lindsay doesn't even look very pretty in them. I've seen recent pictures of her and she CAN look good, so am not sure what's up with these shots. She is not nearly as sexy as Marilyn and not even nearly as sexy as Lindsay can be.😕

 

[smq123]

Belle de jour...late 60s; at the height of her beauty.

She plays a "bored housewife who turns tricks"...the beginning of every porn stereotype out there. 😀

That's right, I'd forgotten the title. And isn't her character married to a really nice, very good looking, but kind of boring, surgeon?

 

[Castro Viejo]

That's pretty hilarious. I (so far) haven't been caught, because the chances that random people on the street will know Korean are fairly slim. I've also had good luck with just smiling, tittering, and saying with a heavy accent, "I am from Laos,"

I can't do the accent thing. The only accent I can do is the "New Yawk" accent, and even with that, the natives look at me screwy. Since I pronounce words in (usually) standard English, such as "coffee" (instead of "cawfee") and "talk" (instead of "tawk"), the "administrative staff" (read: secretaries) find me amusing and try mimicking my "Oriental accent."

Friggin' *****s. Because anything that doesn't look or sound like them just can't be American and must be some immigrant concoction.

I think (and again, there was poor communication between us) that they wanted me to help them pass out pamphlets on street corners, tell random passersby about the "joy of Christ," and ask for donations.

In college I was approached almost on a daily basis by these Korean born-again Christians to accept Jesus into my life. I think I must have accepted Him into my life about half a dozen times in a single month. I guess they were all trying to win the raffle that month or something.

(P.S. I have no idea where that sentence was going. It started out with maids and ended with prostitutes. All I can say is that I spent the past few hours playing social worker on eternal medicine, and my mind is not functioning properly anymore.)

Now you know how my brain works. 🙂

 

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I can't do the accent thing.

Well, "accent" is a generous word for what I actually do. My "accent" consists of "I...um...I, I...mumble, mumble, mumble...LAOS...mumble." And then I titter as if I'm embarrassed and run away.

Since I pronounce words in (usually) standard English, such as "coffee" (instead of "cawfee") and "talk" (instead of "tawk"), the "administrative staff" (read: secretaries) find me amusing and try mimicking my "Oriental accent."

Friggin' *****s. Because anything that doesn't look or sound like them just can't be American and must be some immigrant concoction.

a) Since when did you expect secretaries and other administrative staff to be models of enlightened behavior? If they're not filing their nails and they actually LOOK at me while I'm talking, I consider myself lucky.

b) It's amazing at how people make fun of "Oriental accents" when they can barely speak English themselves. When I went with my mother to her dental appointment, the secretary asked me "Do your mother need a translator? Cause she don't speak good English?" It was very hard for me not to request a translator for the SECRETARY, who clearly didn't speak English very well herself.

In college I was approached almost on a daily basis by these Korean born-again Christians to accept Jesus into my life. I think I must have accepted Him into my life about half a dozen times in a single month. I guess they were all trying to win the raffle that month or something.

I used to tell them that I was sorry, and that I'd love to stay and talk about Jesus, but my Satanic cult was waiting for me to come help sacrifice a few puppies. Then I'd walk away.

It was hilarious because Asians are (often) extremely literal people, particularly the ones who are born-again Christians. They'd just stand there, gaping. Then you could hear them asking themselves, "Do you think she's serious?"

They were probably being urged by their youth ministers (who often are cult-like figures) to bring lots and lots of people to their next worship service. I was always urged to, but couldn't imagine any of my friends enjoying that. Not to mention that I went to a predominantly white school district, and the idea of bringing my Caucasian friends to my all-Korean church was a little...odd. It just seemed cruel to do that to them.

Now you know how my brain works. 🙂

Oh, this is how it starts! 😀