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Gosh... evil.. absolutely evil.. so last time I even looked at those structures was 5 years ago. And now I get called to help out in a surgery (which I didnt even get a chance to prepare for). So I started getting pimped on what vessels are these and where they go. 😡😡😡 Of course when I mess up and shut up cause I dont want to say anymore, the scrub nurse who has been this attending's scrub nurse proceeds to answer! 😡😡😡 Would you like to f**k up my evals any more? She proceeds to talk about how she took anatomy. 😡😡😡

I'm just venting, not really blaming her for knowing everything after 20 years. Figured I'd vent here.
 
Faebinder said:
Gosh... evil.. absolutely evil.. so last time I even looked at those structures was 5 years ago. And now I get called to help out in a surgery (which I didnt even get a chance to prepare for). So I started getting pimped on what vessels are these and where they go. 😡😡😡 Of course when I mess up and shut up cause I dont want to say anymore, the scrub nurse who has been this attending's scrub nurse proceeds to answer! 😡😡😡 Would you like to f**k up my evals any more? She proceeds to talk about how she took anatomy. 😡😡😡

I'm just venting, not really blaming her for knowing everything after 20 years. Figured I'd vent here.
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didn't you say you're a colorectal surgery fellow, or am i mixing you up with somebody else? and you don't know basic vasculature?
 
gasnewby said:
didn't you say you're a colorectal surgery fellow, or am i mixing you up with somebody else? and you don't know basic vasculature?
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Doing a research fellowship pre residency.
 
ah, i see. the nurses did that to me too, when i was a med student. it's not because they 'took anatomy,' it was mainly b/c the attending would ask the same questions for every case!
 
gasnewby said:
ah, i see. the nurses did that to me too, when i was a med student. it's not because they 'took anatomy,' it was mainly b/c the attending would ask the same questions for every case!
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mmmm... gotta keep that in mind.
 
Actually, I used to work with a pretty famous orthpod in San Antonio and he would pimp his fellows on stuff and when they would hesitate he would yank their chain by asking me the question.

Of course I knew the answer.

Like Dr. Cox said, they ask the same questions every year and when you hear them once, even the numbnuts scrub tech can regurgitate the answer.

He just loved to stir-up sh**.

-Mike
 
Agreed. Usually even the circulators will know the answers, after a while.
 
😱 that sux
 
I read this and had to respond. I work on a pediatrics floor (as a nurse) and I was caring for a patient (forget exactly what he had -- but it was an abscess... I believe tonsillar abscess). Anyway, the ENT doc came to do a consult when in walked 2 pediatric residents (one was a 1st and the other was a senior 3rd year), and in walked a 3rd year medical student.

As soon as the ENT attending saw the two residents and the med student tailing after them, he IMMEDIATELY began to pimp every one of them, especially the medical student. I felt bad for all of them because the entire family was in the room including myself. The students face got so red because the ENT doc was trying to get the student to name some obscure structure in the neck -- after the student was unable to name the structure, he turned his attention to the residents who didn't know either. We must have stood there for a good 15 minutes listening to this ENT attending pimp them for this structure. No one ever guessed the correct structure and he finally had to tell everyone what it was. And of course he ended it with "hell... I took anatomy 20+ years ago and I can recall the structure... sad what medical education is these days.." or something to that effect.
 
Unfortunately that's not an uncommon experience for many med students and junior residents. 🙁
 
unfortunately, many attendings forget what it's like to be as a med student...
that or they are simply incredibly insecure that they find such joy in proving they're sooo much smarter than a medical student...:laugh:
20 years ago...their genetics/biochem was what?! no wonder they had to learn so much anatomy...teeheeheeheeheee...
 
dude i would think it would be quite embarassing if the ENT DIDN'T know the structure/name in the NECK...

too bad there is no good etiquette for reverse pimping - it always looks bad no matter how delicately it is applied...
 
BSN2DOC said:
I read this and had to respond. I work on a pediatrics floor (as a nurse) and I was caring for a patient (forget exactly what he had -- but it was an abscess... I believe tonsillar abscess). Anyway, the ENT doc came to do a consult when in walked 2 pediatric residents (one was a 1st and the other was a senior 3rd year), and in walked a 3rd year medical student.

As soon as the ENT attending saw the two residents and the med student tailing after them, he IMMEDIATELY began to pimp every one of them, especially the medical student. I felt bad for all of them because the entire family was in the room including myself. The students face got so red because the ENT doc was trying to get the student to name some obscure structure in the neck -- after the student was unable to name the structure, he turned his attention to the residents who didn't know either. We must have stood there for a good 15 minutes listening to this ENT attending pimp them for this structure. No one ever guessed the correct structure and he finally had to tell everyone what it was. And of course he ended it with "hell... I took anatomy 20+ years ago and I can recall the structure... sad what medical education is these days.." or something to that effect.
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i know, i think it makes the residents look bad if the attending pimps in front of the family. then the family thinks you're dumb b/c you didn't get the question right.

and what an arrogant a-hole to criticize current medical education. it's like when you start a new rotation as a 3rd med student, and get pimped on all kinds of topics. and you've been on the service only 2-3 days...i always wanted to ask them back, 'what are the four stages of labor,' or some other random question. i understand pimping, but you have to remember this is the first exposure to the field for most junior med students.

i'm sure the attending didn't win any points with the family (or you) for that performance.
 
gasnewby said:
i know, i think it makes the residents look bad if the attending pimps in front of the family. then the family thinks you're dumb b/c you didn't get the question right.

and what an arrogant a-hole to criticize current medical education. it's like when you start a new rotation as a 3rd med student, and get pimped on all kinds of topics. and you've been on the service only 2-3 days...i always wanted to ask them back, 'what are the four stages of labor,' or some other random question. i understand pimping, but you have to remember this is the first exposure to the field for most junior med students.

i'm sure the attending didn't win any points with the family (or you) for that performance.
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Everytime I see this ENT attending, I try to avoid him at all costs. He has been known to pimp nurses as well -- why, I have no idea. Nurses know zilch about anatomy structures (well except for the basics of course).

After his last comment regarding taking anatomy 20+ years ago and still knowing the structure, I so badly wanted to respond with "You are an ENT attending... I hope you know the structures of the neck". But I bit my tongue and walked out.
 
gasnewby said:
i know, i think it makes the residents look bad if the attending pimps in front of the family. then the family thinks you're dumb b/c you didn't get the question right.

and what an arrogant a-hole to criticize current medical education. it's like when you start a new rotation as a 3rd med student, and get pimped on all kinds of topics. and you've been on the service only 2-3 days...i always wanted to ask them back, 'what are the four stages of labor,' or some other random question. i understand pimping, but you have to remember this is the first exposure to the field for most junior med students.

i'm sure the attending didn't win any points with the family (or you) for that performance.
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No kidding. What a jerk! Unbelievable!
 
yeah...
 
BSN2DOC said:
Everytime I see this ENT attending, I try to avoid him at all costs. He has been known to pimp nurses as well -- why, I have no idea. Nurses know zilch about anatomy structures (well except for the basics of course).

After his last comment regarding taking anatomy 20+ years ago and still knowing the structure, I so badly wanted to respond with "You are an ENT attending... I hope you know the structures of the neck". But I bit my tongue and walked out.
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Should have asked him to describe the pancreatic drainage and vascular anatomy.

When he wouldn't have been able to answer, then you could have replied, "I guess they didn't teach that stuff 20 years ago, huh?!"

🙄
 
Or even ask him about how to operate a TiVo. Or DVD player. Or CD player.

Or how to use the Internet. Or Bluetooth. Or a PDA. Or a Smartphone. Or an iPod. Or an iPhone.

I could go on and on... 🙂
 
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