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Would it be enough to review the anatomy in First Aid and uworld?

If not, what are the best sources to review for anatomy?
 
I definitely don't think FA is adequate. They leave out a lot of really big things. UWorld covers a lot of what FA leaves out, but I think anatomy is a lot easier to learn if you do it systematically rather than learning it in bits and pieces from UW.

I used this book in 1st/2nd year to review anatomy, and I thought it was great:
http://www.amazon.com/USMLE-Gross-A...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333633467&sr=1-1

Kaplan's videos are also pretty good.
 
I used this book in 1st/2nd year to review anatomy, and I thought it was great:
http://www.amazon.com/USMLE-Gross-A...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333633467&sr=1-1

I think it's interesting that you recommend USMLE World Map Gross Anatomy. I've read other posts somewhere with people also saying that they like it, and even FA lists it as one of its recommended resources, but I HATE IT!! I've spent ~6 hours total on it and absolutely think it's terrible! To that effect, I own both FA2009 and FA2012, and I've noticed that it's listed as "A-" in the 2009 and "B+" in the 2012; when I saw the downgrade, I was actually happy because it means that I'm not the only one who has felt this way. I recommend Underground Clinical Vignettes - Anatomy (listed "A-" in FA2012; I had actually read it unaware that it was even listed in FA). I found this to be exceptional because it is heavily clinical, versus minutiae. USMLE World Map is just full of lots and lots of circumlocution and stuff that I can just feel is super-low-yield (the stuff that you read and know you're going to forget the moment you close the book). In general, my overall impression of USMLE World Map is that it would be a better adjunct text if started from the beginning of first-year, but not as a resource to be used within six months of the exam. Anatomy is one of my weaker areas and so I too am trying to find a "golden" way to study it somehow before the Step. I'm hoping that the tid bits that I pick up through the QBanks and FA will get me >90% of the anatomy questions. In the end, the only way to really get the minutiae would be if you work as an anatomy tutor, perhaps.
 
In general, my overall impression of USMLE World Map is that it would be a better adjunct text if started from the beginning of first-year, but not as a resource to be used within six months of the exam.
I agree with that. The book was useful for me because my med school exams were very heavy on anatomy, so I needed to know those nitpicky details.


Anatomy is one of my weaker areas and so I too am trying to find a "golden" way to study it somehow before the Step. I'm hoping that the tid bits that I pick up through the QBanks and FA will get me >90% of the anatomy questions. In the end, the only way to really get the minutiae would be if you work as an anatomy tutor, perhaps.
Ha, those anatomy tutors are insane. Didn't you guys get a lot of anatomy at UQ? I thought the curricula were fairly consistent across the big Australian schools... we had an annoyingly excessive amount of anatomy, so even though it was my weakest subject, I've been pleasantly surprised by my anatomy performance on UW/Kaplan.
 
Would it be enough to review the anatomy in First Aid and uworld?

If not, what are the best sources to review for anatomy?

IDk what will work for each individual, but I'm gonna do the Umich questions the week before my test and hope that picks up forgotten minutia for the test. That and Uworld, I hope is enough. I don't feel like reading anymore anatomy books at this point...I hope just seeing questions will work in my favor
 
Thanks for the help.

If i dont get time to review anything else except uworld and FA, will I be able to get all the anatomy question right on the real deal?

Basically, it is absolutely necessary, to use other sources?
 
Didn't you guys get a lot of anatomy at UQ? I thought the curricula were fairly consistent across the big Australian schools...

It's not that UQ doesn't teach anatomy; they don't assess it, so there was never any incentive for any of us to stay up till 4am studying the muscles of the arm (like we may have subconsciously wanted). UQ tends to demonstrate the extremes with anatomy. There are some students who took it in undergrad at UQ and know it really well (bc apparently the undergrad program teaches it exceptionally, although the med school doesn't), and then there are others who've struggled with it.

In terms of assessment, first year was ~80% physio and ~20% pathology. Second year was 100% pathology. For that matter, UQ only teaches pathology. I swear our school only thinks medicine = pathology.

The one good thing is that I've hardly thought twice about any of the path questions I've come across in the 2000 Qs I've done in Rx so far (which might be why I'm at 86% cumulative right now), and any threads I've seen on pathology I just ignore. But to be honest, I give UQ no credit for what I've learned. I give the credit to having read Robbins and BRS Pathology, as well as some other USMLE resources. Since they actually assessed path, I had incentive to read those resources; if they had assessed anatomy, I would have learned that better as well.

It's strange though, because although I consider anatomy one of my weaknesses overall, I've found that Underground Clinical Vignettes - Anatomy and FA have helped out a lot. I've actually surprisingly done >85% correct on the USMLE Rx anatomy questions so far because they're all based on FA and UCV, but if you put me in an anatomy lab and ask me to point to a particular muscle and name its attachment sites, I might as well take a seat in the back of the room.

If there is one thing I do give UQ credit for when it comes to its lack of assessment, is that it gives any number of us time to just study USMLE material instead, and not deal with their requirements.
 
Will First Aid and UWORLD be enough? I'm only asking because I'm already having a hard time memorizing whats in those two sources, so I dont think I will be able to add on anything else
 
Will First Aid and UWORLD be enough? I'm only asking because I'm already having a hard time memorizing whats in those two sources, so I dont think I will be able to add on anything else

For the most part, yes.
 
A lot of people at my school used Moore anatomy, but I definitely didn't think that it was even remotely necessary. I just used Rohan's atlas (so that I can identify anything on a prosection) and USMLE Road Map (for the exams). But your school might be different.
 
I'm also having a lot of trouble with anatomy too. It's consistently my lowest section, and it's really only because there's a lot of stuff I really haven't seen in FA. I don't mind learning/memorizing/cramming a boatload of facts, I just want to know of a source that has all the facts (because apparently FA doesn't).

I have access to Kaplan qbank and kaplan anatomy videos. I find the anatomy videos pretty good and systematic, but are they enough to cover the general breadth of questions? What if I combined it with all the anatomy questions from kaplan qbank + UW? lol I really don't want this to be my downfall

Edit: I'm not looking to answer 100% of anatomy questions on step1 (so don't tell me to go and read Netter's haha), but I just want exposure to the high yield stuff so I'm not just blindly guessing on the real thing. The fact that people are reporting higher amounts of anatomy nowadays scares me (unless all that extra anatomy is straight from FA, but doesn't seem like it)
 
I'm also having a lot of trouble with anatomy too. It's consistently my lowest section, and it's really only because there's a lot of stuff I really haven't seen in FA. I don't mind learning/memorizing/cramming a boatload of facts, I just want to know of a source that has all the facts (because apparently FA doesn't).

I have access to Kaplan qbank and kaplan anatomy videos. I find the anatomy videos pretty good and systematic, but are they enough to cover the general breadth of questions? What if I combined it with all the anatomy questions from kaplan qbank + UW? lol I really don't want this to be my downfall

Edit: I'm not looking to answer 100% of anatomy questions on step1 (so don't tell me to go and read Netter's haha), but I just want exposure to the high yield stuff so I'm not just blindly guessing on the real thing. The fact that people are reporting higher amounts of anatomy nowadays scares me (unless all that extra anatomy is straight from FA, but doesn't seem like it)

The Kaplan anatomy book is decent IMO and has enough so that you'll get a lot of questions correct. The only way to really prep for the obscure anatomy qs is to learn it and remember it from first year.
 
The Kaplan anatomy book is decent IMO and has enough so that you'll get a lot of questions correct. The only way to really prep for the obscure anatomy qs is to learn it and remember it from first year.

Awesome, I'll try it out then. Out of curiosity, anyone know what the high yield anatomy topics are? All I've gotten from reading around here are MSK and pelvic. I'm guessing GI and H&N are high yield too?
 
Awesome, I'll try it out then. Out of curiosity, anyone know what the high yield anatomy topics are? All I've gotten from reading around here are MSK and pelvic. I'm guessing GI and H&N are high yield too?

I'm wondering this too. I've looked through kaplan (a bit) and looked at a lot of the anatomy in FA. I still see a lot of questions on UW where I"m just making really educated guesses because I've not seen it in FA or kaplan (e.g. arteries that supply the thyroid and courses of head & neck nerves). I'm learning these little factoids as I go along with UW, but I'm afraid that there will be lots of junk on the real exam that I've never seen before. If I study FA/UW should that be enough knowledge to answer the majority of anatomy questions?

I know people always report back that they got "really specific anatomy questions that you would never know unless you had read Netter's the night before," etc etc. What kinds of questions are these? Are they just things that didn't show up in FA and stuff?
 
I agree with that. The book was useful for me because my med school exams were very heavy on anatomy, so I needed to know those nitpicky details.



Ha, those anatomy tutors are insane. Didn't you guys get a lot of anatomy at UQ? I thought the curricula were fairly consistent across the big Australian schools... we had an annoyingly excessive amount of anatomy, so even though it was my weakest subject, I've been pleasantly surprised by my anatomy performance on UW/Kaplan.

I'm an Anatomy tutor, and I definitely forgot a lot after first semester... anatomy is a hard subject to memorize completely 🙄
 
If in doubt, I'd say....just make sure you really know (down cold) all the stuff related to lower and upper extremities. Most questions seem to relate to disorders of muscle/arteries/neurons/etc. in these areas of the body. Other hot points: knee anatomy, ACL/PCL tears, Head and Neck anatomy, + all the basic neuroanatomy (cranial nerves, cranial foreman, etc.).

Pelvic area is also relatively high yield, but incredibly complicated...so if you're crunched on time, I'd just say forget about trying to learn those.
 
Yeah I basically looked at pelvis and said: No.

The blood vessels and muscles are pretty easy, but after that...
 
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